Worst trades in recent years

[DarkStar50 679]

Theo,

The Rangers trade of Sergei Zubov is another Top 5 bonehead trade. Zubov has 600+ career points, still makes awesome first pass out of the zone, controls PP for Stars, and looks as good as 10 years ago. Traded to Pens for Lucky Luc and ULF? Can't remember the great players NYR got in that one. I was just thinking about this trade 2 days ago.

[Neo5370 132]

Howabout the Winnipeg Jets for the Phoenix Coyotes, and the Quebec Nordiques for the Colorado Avalanche? Now those were crap trades. <_<

Ha! I second that.

[althoma1 574]

The previously mentioned Kordic for Courtnall trade is my favourite bad trade of all time

[JR Boucicaut 3797]

Theo,

The  Rangers trade of Sergei Zubov is another Top 5 bonehead trade. Zubov has 600+ career points, still makes awesome first pass out of the zone, controls PP for Stars, and looks as good as 10 years ago. Traded to Pens for Lucky Luc and ULF? Can't remember the great players NYR got in that one. I was just thinking about this trade 2 days ago.

Mattias Norstrom, Nathan "Ding" Lafayette (real Rangers fans will understand his nickname), Ian Laperriere, Ray Ferraro and 1997 4th Round Pick for Shane Churla, Jari Kurri and Marty McSorley...bad bad bad

[mack 44]

no team out does the leafs for bad trades

in the quinn era...

owen nolan

brian leetch

glen wesley

dmitri kristich

rick jackman

steve sullivan, jd smith (on waivers)

mikael renberg

theres only one trade quinn has won, mccabe for karpotsev..

in the 80s..

john kordic for russ courtnall

who can forget the tom kurvers for 1st round pick in the eric lindros draft year

Cliff Fletcher is the worst GM ever. That pick for Kurvers ended up being Niedermayer, who would have done a helluva lot more than any of the crap they had on the blueline.

[DarkStar50 679]

Nathan "Ding" Lafayette (real Rangers fans will understand his nickname)

1994 Game 7, 3 minutes to go, 3rd period. Do I win a prize?

[JR Boucicaut 3797]

:) Richter was all stretched out trying to make that save and Ding just rang it off the post...

[Eazy_b97 1]

who can forget the tom kurvers for 1st round pick in the eric lindros draft year

Which turned out to be Scott Niedermayer... ;)

They made all kinds of crazy craps to avoid coming in last and looking even worse.

As for the other deal. Toronto is knee deep in offfensive young D-men. Kondratiev was a very small piece. Kronwalls been stellar, Cola has looked good when called up, White is just getting ice time, Woz can be a stead #6. Kondratiev would likely be the number 3-4 guy on the farm. The pick still needs to be seen.

Kristich signed, and resulted in Sullivan getting bumped.

Smith was the modern version of Aki Berg. Glad he worked out in Edmonton.

Jackman was awful here, his points are good in Pittsburg, but he's a less talented Ozzy. Can't play D. I don't mind the Weslety trade. 2nd rounder for a playoff run.

Looking back the Sundin for Clark deal wasn't awful for our future. Getting Wendel back......was.

[Fire0nIce228 1]

Anyone know any truth to a rumor about in the offseason Naslund and Forsberg were trying to get Craig Patrick and the Pens to sign them in a package deal. Someone in one of my classes said in the offseason that Naslund and Foppa were going to take less money to both play in Pitt. I never heard anything about it over the offseason, but if thats true, CP shoulda said FU to leclair and recchi.

[EBondo 233]

Forsberg for Lindros, and whoever else it was? It may not have looked it back then, but now look at it...

[golfpuck 0]

Ricci, Hextall, Duchesne, Forsberg, Huffman, 7th overall pick in 92 & the #1 pick in 1993, as well as $15 million.

[thunderbirds_are_go 0]

I was wondering why it took so long to bring up the Lindros trade - I figured everyone thought it was to obvious. Has to be my pick as the worlds worst hockey trade.

In general though I'd have to say that a really bad trade can only involve established players - a lot of the trades mentioned in this thread are along the lines of "This team traded such-and-such and then he went on to become a superstar" - I'm talking about Naslund for example. A lot of these players were unproven when they were traded, and might never have excelled in the environments they were in. You can't say that Naslund would have developed the same way if he'd stayed in Pittsburgh. Maybe he would have, but I suspect that a lot of the credit for how players turn out has to do with the situations they are in, the players they play with, and the coaches they have correctly recognising their strengths and how to motivate players.

Any comments?

[mack 44]

And all that money was used to keep Sundin, Nolan and Sakic as well as signing Hextall.

[Eazy_b97 1]

Lindros did bring the Flyers to the finals and deep into the playoffs a few times, with very little support. It's why I left it off my list. Quebec obviously thrived from the trade, but it's not like Philly went into the crapper.

[forsberg91 0]

Anyone know any truth to a rumor about in the offseason Naslund and Forsberg were trying to get Craig Patrick and the Pens to sign them in a package deal. Someone in one of my classes said in the offseason that Naslund and Foppa were going to take less money to both play in Pitt. I never heard anything about it over the offseason, but if thats true, CP shoulda said FU to leclair and recchi.

I forget who said it, either Foppa or Nazzy but they said that they had no intentions of playing together.

[beaucoup_fish 0]

I was wondering why it took so long to bring up the Lindros trade - I figured everyone thought it was to obvious. Has to be my pick as the worlds worst hockey trade.

In general though I'd have to say that a really bad trade can only involve established players - a lot of the trades mentioned in this thread are along the lines of "This team traded such-and-such and then he went on to become a superstar" - I'm talking about Naslund for example. A lot of these players were unproven when they were traded, and might never have excelled in the environments they were in. You can't say that Naslund would have developed the same way if he'd stayed in Pittsburgh. Maybe he would have, but I suspect that a lot of the credit for how players turn out has to do with the situations they are in, the players they play with, and the coaches they have correctly recognising their strengths and how to motivate players.

Any comments?

There've been more lopsided trades than that...considering that before his concussion problems, Lindros was SO dominant he was running along at something like a 2 PPG clip, and dare I say, was better than Forsberg? It was the whole concussion deal that messed up this trade, otherwise, both sides would've gotten a great player and who knows what Lindros would've done had he stayed healthy and in Bob Clarke's good graces.

Of course, Quebec/Colorado came out on top with the cups, money and a player who has been dominant his entire career (when healthy).

[ponty 0]

Pens trade Marcus Naslund to the Nucks for whom?????

[mack 44]

Pens trade Marcus Naslund to the Nucks for whom?????

Friggin' Stojanov. At the time it was a wash as Naslund hadn't done a damn thing at least. Hindsight though...woof.

[sundinleafs137 13]

Born and raised in MTL you can't talk about bad trades without these coming to mind:

Roy traded to Colorado along with Mike Keane for Jocelyn Thibault, Martin Rucinsky and Andrei Kovalenko on Dec. 6, 1995.

Eric Desjardins, Gilbert Dionne & John LeClair for Mark Recchi & 1995 3rd Rounder (Martin Hohenberger)

and some other notable trades around the league

Dominik Hasek for Stephane Beauregard and a fourth-round draft choice with which the Hawks selected Eric Daze

Brett Hull for Steve Bozek + ???

[43%burnt 0]

Roy traded to Colorado along with Mike Keane for Jocelyn Thibault, Martin Rucinsky and Andrei Kovalenko on Dec. 6, 1995.

that's a hard one really, i'm suprised the habs got that much. roy wanted out and every team knew it. makes it difficult to negociate when the other team knows who have to trade the guy.

[Eazy_b97 1]

It's a similar situation as Nolan, Leetch, Kovalev, etc..

[cobrAA 0]

Born and raised in MTL you can't talk about bad trades without these coming to mind:

Roy traded to Colorado along with Mike Keane for Jocelyn Thibault, Martin Rucinsky and Andrei Kovalenko on Dec. 6, 1995.

Eric Desjardins, Gilbert Dionne & John LeClair for Mark Recchi & 1995 3rd Rounder (Martin Hohenberger)

and some other notable trades around the league

Dominik Hasek for Stephane Beauregard and a fourth-round draft choice with which the Hawks selected Eric Daze

Brett Hull for Steve Bozek + ???

Really! i never know hasek was with the canadien..

[mack 44]

He wasn't, that was part of the "other notable trades from around the league..." part.

[thunderbirds_are_go 0]

Lindros did bring the Flyers to the finals and deep into the playoffs a few times, with very little support. It's why I left it off my list. Quebec obviously thrived from the trade, but it's not like Philly went into the crapper.

Maybe you have a point with that - maybe I'm just as guilty of judging with the benefit of hindsight as the rest of most post accuses others. But I still think that the fact that a player who had yet to play an NHL game was considered to be worth so much was crazy. Yes he did turn out to be an elite player, but there are plenty of other highly hyped number 1 draft picks that didn't pan out, so it's the gamble Clark(e?) took that Lindros would deliver that I find grounds for making it a bad trade. If it was prospects for prospects then OK, but prospects and established players and a ton of cash for one prospect? Even if the brightest prospect at the time?

[Chadd 916]

Lindros did bring the Flyers to the finals and deep into the playoffs a few times, with very little support. It's why I left it off my list. Quebec obviously thrived from the trade, but it's not like Philly went into the crapper.

Maybe you have a point with that - maybe I'm just as guilty of judging with the benefit of hindsight as the rest of most post accuses others. But I still think that the fact that a player who had yet to play an NHL game was considered to be worth so much was crazy. Yes he did turn out to be an elite player, but there are plenty of other highly hyped number 1 draft picks that didn't pan out, so it's the gamble Clark(e?) took that Lindros would deliver that I find grounds for making it a bad trade. If it was prospects for prospects then OK, but prospects and established players and a ton of cash for one prospect? Even if the brightest prospect at the time?

Bobby Clarke was not the GM who made the Lindros trade, a lot of people make that mistake.