NBH ONE90 Initial Thoughts

[mrusse01 0]

I wish you guys could give a little insight on these skates. I have set preordered for my son, it would be nice to know if they are over rated before I go out and drop that kind of money into them. I'm sure they are a great skate. Next year all but one player on the U Maine team will be skating with them. That to me does say alot, but it would be nice to get some feed back from some of you fortunate enough to try them out.

Have you read this whole thread? JR has basically been giving an acocunt of his thoughts on testing his pair of One90's.

[DarkStar50 679]

I can't say enough about the skates now to be fair and objective but you already answered your question with the U Maine info.

[Jason 65]

I'd like to know how many of the Pro, College, Junior players that are wearing them are using the LS2 Power holders that come stock. Most pro stock skates I've seen have the older LS2's. I guess the guys haven't had time to try to adjust to the new longer holder. I could see myself liking the longer one.

I have a pair of One90's that I have yet to skate in. Got 'em off of ebay for dirt cheap, but they ended up having defective holders. Could be from the heating process. I heated mine for 4 minutes without a preheat and then I didn't really stand in them until they had cooled off significantly. However, the runner is really not snug in the holder. Both runners move around alot and click. I'm just waiting for stores to get the holders in. Most have the steel, but not holders.

If you guys see a store that is carrying holders, let me know ASAP. Thanks.

I may skate in them this weekend to see how the movement feels on the ice. I'm not looking forward to it though.

[duch 0]

Sweet looking skates. I'm a CCM/Easton guy now but if I had to buy a pair of skates and they weren't available, this is the skate I would buy new. Now for the next all important question, how durable are they going to be? The Vapors looked great too but look what happened to them.

[lando_8 0]

I just got off the ice after 2 hours of shinny (only 4 guys) so it was a good opportunity for a first skate in my one90’s. (I was on them for 15 minutes yesterday during a public skate though - not really counting that).

I can't say that I really notice a difference with the LS2power blades, I'm coming from Graf 705's with Cobra holders so this perhaps this is why? I was expecting to be falling on my face and ass for the first couple skates from what I have been reading here but it wasn’t the case.

Overall my first impression with the skates is very positive. They are extremely light, pretty stiff but not too stiff (not like a ski boot or anything) and I feel quicker but I won't truly know until I'm on the ice with some other players that I normally skate with. I play Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday this week so I'm looking forward to getting out in a full ice/game situation. (pickup, but 5 on 5 with goalies at least). I had some soreness in my insoles but it got better in the 2nd hour and I suspect it will (hope it will) go away after another skate or two. (not nearly as comfortable as my Graf's were during the first skate).

I guess that is it for now, I can post an update late in the week after my 3 pickup games if anybody is interested.

[Roach 0]

I just got off the ice after 2 hours of shinny (only 4 guys) so it was a good opportunity for a first skate in my one90’s. (I was on them for 15 minutes yesterday during a public skate though - not really counting that).

I can't say that I really notice a difference with the LS2power blades, I'm coming from Graf 705's with Cobra holders so this perhaps this is why? I was expecting to be falling on my face and ass for the first couple skates from what I have been reading here but it wasn’t the case.

Overall my first impression with the skates is very positive. They are extremely light, pretty stiff but not too stiff (not like a ski boot or anything) and I feel quicker but I won't truly know until I'm on the ice with some other players that I normally skate with. I play Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday this week so I'm looking forward to getting out in a full ice/game situation. (pickup, but 5 on 5 with goalies at least). I had some soreness in my insoles but it got better in the 2nd hour and I suspect it will (hope it will) go away after another skate or two. (not nearly as comfortable as my Graf's were during the first skate).

I guess that is it for now, I can post an update late in the week after my 3 pickup games if anybody is interested.

I'm interested.

Please post more feedback after you use em. I may just have to pick up a pair after examining JR's.

Thanks, lando!

[mtbutler 0]

sry to hack into the thread but my local pro shop had a nbh one90 demo. these skates are really light. they felt tight around the ankle a little but that should go away after you bake them, the nbh rep said that nbh should send the skates out the first of june. im skeptical though because of the duribility. i asked him about it and he said that these skates are going to be more durible than the vapors. he also said that people are not taking care the skates correctly such as not taking out the foot bed, not letting air to flow through it, and having too hot of air going through it and thats why they fall apart, he is a sales man so he will try to sell the product no matter what, so im skeptical of that too. i am considering getting a pair though but im not sure, any opinions?

[kovalchuk71 212]

New Instructions for Baking One90 Skates:

Preheat oven to a maximum of 175*F/79* C and only heat skates for a maximum of two minutes. The skates are meant to be heated only TWO times. You may stand straight up during the thermal adjustment. Do not walk or forward flex. Wait at least one hour before skating.

This information is direct from the box for One90 skates. I have been skating on the One90 for over two weeks. My short term evaluation is not complete. For the moment regarding baking the skates, it is a different process and experience than other skates I have baked. The skate is a hard boot out of the box that has the shape of your foot. The baking process, when done correctly, and it must be done correctly, truly allows you to shape the skate to and around your foot. I preheated the oven for 5 minutes before putting the skates in. I baked them for 3 minutes in a Mission oven. Yes, that is a minute longer because the first time I baked them(more about that at a different time) I only baked them for 1:45 and did not soften them up nearly enough. Do not over bake the boots!!!! The boots came out soft to shape. I put the skates on sitting on a short foot-stool. This allowed me after lacing up the skates to get my hands down low around the ankle, heel, and forefoot to shape the boot with the strength of my hands. You will be able to pinch, squeeze, and grip the boot around your foot with your hands. As I did this in different areas of the boot I did a ten-count to work the different areas the same amount of time and not to over-do or neglect a certain area. The skate does begin to cool down, in a sense within 5 minutes. By that time I had stopped shaping the boots with my hands and just kept my feet quiet for another 7 minutes. I kept them on for 12 minutes during the thermal adjustment period. The skates will cure within 2 hours to skate on. I recommend giving the skates the 2 hours minimum to set. You have just spent a lot of money. Don't be foolish and rush out to the rink. You will be able to skate on them within the same day. The baking process for the One90 is as critical to the fit as the size and width selected. I am not trying to over emphasis any one area when purchasing this skate. My point for now is take your time when being fitted and then having them baked. These two steps will be very important in your success with the One90 skates.

More to follow down the road........

Do you have to form with your hands or no?

[hockeymom 2]

JR, and all of you who have made this type of a transition before....

How much of an adjustment is it moving from a skate like the S500 to the ONE90? The ONE90 I was looking at recently seemed way stiffer and the height is different.

Really, really want to learn more about this!! Thanks.

[DarkStar50 679]

I suggest shaping the boot with your hands because you can! When the boot is properly heated, it will be supple enough to shape with your hands. I did this with my pair because I really wanted to form the boot around my heel and ankle. I have had great success with the comfort level of the boot after doing this on ice. As JR mentions, there is no negative or dead space around your foot when the boot is properly baked and shaped.

When I have been skating in the One90 I have left all the lower eyelets loose, hardly snugging up the skate down low. A few reasons why I do this: I want my foot to be able to breathe should it start to swell up( a common problem with new skates). FYI, this has never happened anyway in all my on ice experiences with the One90. Also, the boot is snug against my foot with no pain that the stiffness of the boot allows me to keep the laces loose instead in tightening down on them. The top two eyelets are the only ones I make snug in order to lock in my heel. The boot is stiff enough to support me on ice with this method. Everyone will be different but this is not a traditional boot that needs to be tightly laced. The stiffness of the boot provides plenty of support. Nothing has been compromised in on ice skating performance by lacing the skates in this method for me.

The transition question is a good one. I think the transition would be pretty easy. For the moment I am going to get a few more skates in with the One90 before I give a complete opinion on that question.

[A2rhino 63]

I just got off the ice after 2 hours of shinny (only 4 guys) so it was a good opportunity for a first skate in my one90’s. (I was on them for 15 minutes yesterday during a public skate though - not really counting that).

I can't say that I really notice a difference with the LS2power blades, I'm coming from Graf 705's with Cobra holders so this perhaps this is why? I was expecting to be falling on my face and ass for the first couple skates from what I have been reading here but it wasn’t the case.

Overall my first impression with the skates is very positive. They are extremely light, pretty stiff but not too stiff (not like a ski boot or anything) and I feel quicker but I won't truly know until I'm on the ice with some other players that I normally skate with. I play Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday this week so I'm looking forward to getting out in a full ice/game situation. (pickup, but 5 on 5 with goalies at least). I had some soreness in my insoles but it got better in the 2nd hour and I suspect it will (hope it will) go away after another skate or two. (not nearly as comfortable as my Graf's were during the first skate).

I guess that is it for now, I can post an update late in the week after my 3 pickup games if anybody is interested.

Please keep me posted. I wear Graf 705's as well and now in the market for a new pair of skates and have been keeping an eye on these. How does the new toe design feel? Does the skate really fit to every part of your foot as they claim?

[lando_8 0]

Well, after 6+ hours of skating in the skates last week I can say that the initial soreness is gone that I experienced in the first couple outtings (as I suspected) and I am really liking these things. I definitely notice my jump to be a little quicker (maybe I'm just skating harder cause of the new skates?? ) and my overall speed to be a little better.

They do fit extremely well, I don't really notice the "fitting of every part of the foot" but I haven't really been paying attention to that. I found my Graf's fit extremely well and these are every bit as good with the boot being stiffer and becoming more comfy with each skate. One thing that I do notice, I find I get wet toes, there are small holes near the toes that allow the holder to air out and I find snow gets in there...not a big deal but I would imagine some 2-3 hour sessions might cause some discomfort if you didn't stop to change your socks. The plastic toe cap is similar to the Graf IMO, no real change for me here.

I would have to recommend these skates based so far with the little time I have spent in them, I can only see them getting better as time goes on.

(previous skates - Graf 705 and Vapor XXX)

[Cavs019 710]

I'll be picking up my pair next week, except I can't figure out if ill need a D or C width. I'm in D width XXX's right now.

[Jason 65]

You may need a C. The forefoot is definitely wider on the One90's. Not a ton wider, but some. I have a D width in both skates.

[JR Boucicaut 3804]

Review is up in the Skate review section.

http://www.modsquadhockey.com/index.php?ac...t=0#entry299740

[hockeymom 2]

JR, what are your thoughts on baking these skates for pronated feet? Don't think you'd necessarily WANT it to form to that shape. If one was to go with a custom orthotic I would assume you'd be better off baking them with the orthotic.

[JR Boucicaut 3804]

Yes, totally. You'd want to get the orthotic shaped to fit the boot, then bake them with them in.

[Kovy_Ribs_Fedo 3]

JR, if this is possible, I would like to see a pic of the tendon guard. I saw you said you had a custom skates as weel as the tendon guard, I would just like to see how different it is.

[jbyun04 7]

is there a reason the tendon is solid on pro makeups and 'holed' on retail ones?

[Kovy_Ribs_Fedo 3]

much more durable I guess.

[djinferno 2]

I find strange that the tendon guard is so flimsy and easy to bend back, my lhs said this was a feature to maximize stride, is this true?

[lohnman 0]

I know that the few players from U Maine that used these skates this year had a beefed up tendon gaurd. The way I understand it,the trainer told me it helped them with leverage when battling and pushing off in the corners or against the boards.

[JR Boucicaut 3804]

Yes...by it bending back it maximixes your stride...allows you to get more snap.

[djinferno 2]

I know that the few players from U Maine that used these skates this year had a beefed up tendon gaurd. The way I understand it,the trainer told me it helped them with leverage when battling and pushing off in the corners or against the boards.

I kind of feel the same way but my S500 are kind of doing the same thing so

[Awdcft 0]

is there SO "BIG" difference between XXX vapor and one90??? i have now XXX vapor and i like to know will that over hyped new skate (one90) make me skate "little" faster... i have money now, and i can buy them when they arrive in my local hockey shop, but i think i should save the money and buy new skate on season 07-08 because my XXX vapors are still pretty good condition. and i have heard and read about that XXX and one90 are different fitting, and i like the way that my XXX fits. i have always loved Bauers skates i have tried couple of times CCM and RBK's skates but i doesn't like them at all. XXX skate fits me exactly that i want them... but will the one90 gain me little extra speed... some kind of turbo... :P

(my english sucks but try to understand what i'm writing...)