DarkStar50 679 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 Chadd,Sorry to hear that defence bores you. I enjoyed watching the unbeaten all-time next greatest offensive team get their butts kicked around the pits, where games are won and lost. I guess you were never a lineman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrusse01 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 I still can't believe it.I considered the bet while I was in Vegas but didn't want to jinx the Giants. I'm (sorta) glad I didn't.I'm sitting here kicking myself for not betting. Two friends placed bets ($100 each) and wanted to know if I was in. Seriously considered it, but there was just something that didn't feel right about the bet.What did it pay?Giants to win (moneyline) paid about 4.3 to 1 just before kickoff. I won a couple hunderd bucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mik3 1 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 I put 100 down on giants to win straight/cover/under 53.5 and won just under 1000. It's not as well as I did last year, but it works. I've also taken, in parlays, the giants to win and the spread for 100 every week in the playoffs so I ended up doing well, especially in the cowboys game.Sportsbook hates me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockeyherb 1 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 I hate Football but I left my seat when Eli made that scramble, I loved seein the Giants win. I was watching a local Radio show today and they brought up a good point..what was with the immaturity of the 72 dolphins with this whole thing? They obviously wanted more spotlight, but I don't think they handled it with class at all. The Pat's winning does nothing to your 17-0 record unless you think it does so why take offense to it, Shula had animosity against the Pats all year. I say if the Pats won you show up, shake there hand and say welcome..but to cheer for them losing? I just don't think they handled it well imo.Here's what I heard on ESPN radio Monday about the 72 Dolphins. Guys like Mercury Morris make about 50-75k a year doing appearances and signings because they're still the only undefeated team. If the Pats won, their income would fall significantly - and it's not like these guys are sitting on millions of dollars otherwise so it's a big deal to them. Threaten a guy's income and you can expect some bitterness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mik3 1 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 They're assholes, the 72 Dolphins, we get it. Mercury Morris is a felon, plain and simple, he should go back to running coke and get off my tv. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkStar50 679 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 There are plenty of criminals in the NFL right now! Let the Dolphins earn a buck. Glad to find out what it was all about for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stampeder 2 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 For those that don't listen to the Stern Show, Artie Lange is up 78k just by betting on the Giants throughout the playoffs. I sure wouldn't mind that kind of money for a few games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mik3 1 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 For those that don't listen to the Stern Show, Artie Lange is up 78k just by betting on the Giants throughout the playoffs. I sure wouldn't mind that kind of money for a few games.Maybe he can use it to get back on some drugs. Then the only funny part of Stern's show won't be a few pounds away from a critical heart attack anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mack 44 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 Next time I see Csonka at the grocery store I'll ask him why Morris is a douchenozzle and he isn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mik3 1 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 If you got to be a commentator on the original American Gladiators you'd have a sunny disposition also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrusse01 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 I put 100 down on giants to win straight/cover/under 53.5 and won just under 1000. It's not as well as I did last year, but it works. I've also taken, in parlays, the giants to win and the spread for 100 every week in the playoffs so I ended up doing well, especially in the cowboys game.Sportsbook hates me.How did you take the moneyline and the spread on the same ticket? I've never heard of a sportsbook that allows inter-game parlays, in fact it doesn't even make sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mik3 1 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 I put 100 down on giants to win straight/cover/under 53.5 and won just under 1000. It's not as well as I did last year, but it works. I've also taken, in parlays, the giants to win and the spread for 100 every week in the playoffs so I ended up doing well, especially in the cowboys game.Sportsbook hates me.How did you take the moneyline and the spread on the same ticket? I've never heard of a sportsbook that allows inter-game parlays, in fact it doesn't even make sense.Sorry, had to be more specific. It was win/under, cover/under. Then as part of parlays I'd go something like cover/colts win, win/bolts win. It'd always be something safe then something to pay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrusse01 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 ahh...okI was like 'WTF?' there for a minute. Win/under, cover/under in the SB is a sweet bet though, good stuff. Vegas must have got slammed on this one, EVERYBODY seemed to be hitting the Giants to win, cover, or the under. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thockey17 1 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 Just got back from the parade.Strahan is THAT dude.We would like to extend this to every other team in the NFL and particularly for the last team we defeated the New England Patriots... because, you know what we did to you? We (jumps as high as he can) STOMPED YOU OUT! WE STOMPED YOU OUT! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drisco487 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 Nice bets Mik3, impressive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mik3 1 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 ahh...okI was like 'WTF?' there for a minute. Win/under, cover/under in the SB is a sweet bet though, good stuff. Vegas must have got slammed on this one, EVERYBODY seemed to be hitting the Giants to win, cover, or the under.I'd say +12.5 and the over was a popular bet based on the last game between the two teams. The Giants got some pretty healthy lines to cover going through the playoffs though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason Harris 31 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 I didn't catch it to the extent he did, but it made no sense to me that they put 6 seconds back on the clock after Bradshaw's run, then didn't restart the clock.I was fine with that they stopped the clock since the refs didn't spot the ball and were seemingly measuring it up to see if it was a first down. But, I agree that the 6 seconds and the non-restart didn't make much sense. Although, that still doesn't account for 40 seconds.Here's something interesting, though nowhere as colorful as the "STOMP YOU OUT" statement.... :D The clock stoppage might not be as bad as it seemed, because the rulebook states the refs can stop the clock for the possibility of a measurement. However, once Mike Carey looked over at the marker and signaled first down, I don't understand why the clock did not restart, since, if Jacobs had picked up three yards, it NEVER would have stopped. At the very least, I don't understand why six seconds were added AND the clock remained stopped even as the official backed away. (On the previous play, when they had to measure, the clock started prior to the snap, as the official backed away from the ball.)Anyway, that actually wasn't the most blatant bungling of the clock, which happened with 8:24 left, after Eli missed Burress on a floater on third down. The clock never started on the next play, which was a pass to Toomer for 4th and 1. The clock still didn't start while everyone was lining up for a punt, until one of the officials pointed it out to Mike Carey. During that time, Coughlin can be seen yelling, asking why the clock is stopped.They reset the clock, but they were off by about thirty seconds. What I mean is I ran a timer set to 8:24 at the beginning of the third down snap, then kept it running until Welker's fair catch on the punt, since the clock should never have stopped except for when the official discussed that it had stopped (about 22 seconds). Using the timer, Welker caught the ball with 7:03 remaining, but let's add 22 seconds for the refs' discussions. That should have put the game clock at around 7:25 remaining, but the clock was at 7:54 instead.Another way to look at it is if 6 seconds had elapsed on the pass to Toomer, then the Giants let the play clock wind down to 2-3 seconds, then another 6 seconds on the punt, there would have been about 7:34 on the clock.At the very least, we might have had an even more exciting Super Bowl.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LegoDoom 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 At the very least, we might have had an even more exciting Super Bowl....Ummmm.... exactly how could the game have been more exciting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason Harris 31 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 At the very least, we might have had an even more exciting Super Bowl....Ummmm.... exactly how could the game have been more exciting?Well, if there was thirty or so seconds less, it could have been that the Giants scored on possibly the last play or even ran out of time. Having said that, they obviously would have played the game differently if there was less time on the clock (and the play that added six seconds might not even had occurred). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drisco487 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2008 Salming, here it ishttp://i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=27384were the pats robbed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason Harris 31 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 Actually, I no longer completely agree with that guy (he was the one RadioGaGa linked to), since the rulebooks says the clock can be stopped for the possibility of a measurement.What I don't know is whether the referee has to signal for the clock to stop, although I think the answer is yes, because Mike Carey looked to the sideline and made a crossing motion after the third down play. This was about 4-5 seconds after the play ended, so it appeared that the play clock runs until the ref signals. At that point, the chains came out, the ball was short, chains went back and play clock restarted as soon as one of the officials backed away from the ball. About four seconds elapsed before the snap, when Jacobs ran for a first down at about 1:28 as the scrum ended, then the clock ran down until about 1:22 when it was stopped. I didn't see Mike Carey signal for the clock to stop, so I could be wrong about the ref needing to signal, but Carey almost immediately signaled first down. As I understand it, at the very least, the clock should have restarted as soon as the official set the ball, and even Aikman expressed surprise that clock had not restarted. Then Buckman mentions 6 seconds were added back to the clock. In fact, the clock never restarted until after the first down play, when Manning semi-fumbled it; however, they sped back up to make up for the time of the play, but not the stoppage/non-restart at fourth downThe irony is the Pats would have been better off giving up a yard-and-a-half, because the clock would never have stopped and the Giants might have had to use their first timeout.Between the 20-some seconds gained around the punt and the clock not being restarted (and actually increased) after the 4th down, there was probably anywhere between 25-40 extra seconds in that game, so I'm guessing that official timekeeper won't work another SB.Still, I've finally calmed down. The Pats played their worst game of the season -- much of it due to the Giants' rush and some of it probably due to Brady being more injured than they implied -- yet the offense didn't make any adjustments for three quarters. If the Pats had played better, we wouldn't be quibbling about the extra time on the clock or the holding on Manning's scramble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkStar50 679 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 Salming, There is holding on every NFL play! Please don't use that as an excuse. I wonder how 3 Patriot offensive linemen were All-Pro during the regular season and couldn't come close to stopping the Giants front four all night long. The game is 60 minutes. It is weak to quibble about seconds on the clock. The Patriots had 2 drives the entire game. Tom Brady had passing yardage because they had no running game but still the Patriots O was futile against the Giants. The Patriots were running out of gas long before the Super Bowl. The final regular season game against the Giants showed their flaws on defence. If Jacksonville had managed two touchdowns instead of two field goals in the playoff game at Foxboro, who knows how that would have ended. If there was ever an unbeaten team ripe for the picking, it was the Patriots in the Super Bowl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drisco487 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 Salming, There is holding on every NFL play! Please don't use that as an excuse. I wonder how 3 Patriot offensive linemen were All-Pro during the regular season and couldn't come close to stopping the Giants front four all night long. The game is 60 minutes. It is weak to quibble about seconds on the clock. The Patriots had 2 drives the entire game. Tom Brady had passing yardage because they had no running game but still the Patriots O was futile against the Giants. The Patriots were running out of gas long before the Super Bowl. The final regular season game against the Giants showed their flaws on defence. If Jacksonville had managed two touchdowns instead of two field goals in the playoff game at Foxboro, who knows how that would have ended. If there was ever an unbeaten team ripe for the picking, it was the Patriots in the Super Bowl.He's not using that as an excuse, he's just pointing out what he thought was the mistakes in the game that were pretty costly. Also, Brady didn't have passing yardage because they didn't have a running game, he had the yardage because their offense was to spread it out and beat teams through the air. You also can't say what if Jacksonville got two touchdowns instead of fieldgoals thats like saying what if Eli manning was sacked on that scramble play or what if Asante had that pick at the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mack 44 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 The Patriots did well using a Bill Walsh system but they should have stretched it out a lot better than they did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted February 8, 2008 At the very least, we might have had an even more exciting Super Bowl....Ummmm.... exactly how could the game have been more exciting? The first three quarters could have used more excitement, the ending was the only decent part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
