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I know that many have their opinions, but I am looking for more facts, or at least opinions based on experience or fact.

What is the most durable boot and holder out there?

I am 6'0", about 210 lbs, defenseman, VERY wide forefoot, and play 2-3 nights a week in open and C-league.

Of course I would like top end performance, but can gladly sacrafice that to get mid level boot that LASTS 3 years.

Does such an animal exist?

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my xxxx's have lasted me a year i skate about 5-6 times a week in the fall..id say their pretty durable only cosmetic damage to them so far..if that helps at all

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i would say any boot from the graf 700 series would most likely be your best bet. they offer alot of different fits, and usually last a fair amount of time from my experience.

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Thanks for your replys!

I havent seen anywhere local where I can buy Grafs and try them on. Cant find 8090's anywhere, but I hear they fit like the new supremes. The Vapors are way too narrow for me. The supreme line fits me better, but I would have to get them custom as the Supreme 50 dug into my big toe where the toe cap meets the skate and did some serious damage. Will a supreme one90, one75, or one95 last three years?

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well the skates just came out so its hard to tell. what i can tell the kors are built like tanks and are a pretty wide skate.

my 8090's are pretty much trashed after 1 year of AA and HS hockey. but they should last longer for you. supreme 70's are the same skate arent they? my buddy has some like 4 year old missions he still uses so those seem to be tanks to.

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I've had my KOR Shift 1's for about 2 seasons and they're really holding up well. They're still very stiff and comfortable. The only area of concern is where the composite joins the plastic toe..there's chipping there, but they're still together. Some people have had the toe come loose, but that doesn't happen to all pairs.

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I just read somewere that KORS are like skating with goalie skates!!!! - Is that durable enough for ya!!!!!

Give'em a try a couple bakes and a few skates......Like tanks I tell you - take a puck in the boot and you say was that a moskito?

I mean if you expecting a "Ferrari" well then you better pass on these things.....

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Find yourself a pair of 2006 CCM Pro Tacks. the fit sounds like it might be right up your alley. i've gone through 2 pairs in 3 years, but i'm on the ice 4-5 days a week skating in B-level AND university Varsity. overall, they're bombproof.

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I have been reading your posts in the different threads where you want three years of wear, tear, and use on your skates before they fall apart. That may be the one thing you have to sacrifice in your quest. Unless you baby the hell out of your skates, three years of wear is a lot to ask for. Plus, at 210 lbs., those skates will be getting some wicked torque and stress, too. That is why it is easy for me to understand how your S15 skates blew up, also.

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I dont understand how people consider the Supeme line to be wider than the new Vapor XXXX series. If you have a wide forefoot I'd look into the new RBK skates. Thos were the 1st pair I wad dircted to after looking at my foot. People with thick feet/high arch/high insteps shouldnt be buying Easton\Mission skates or Graf 703 variants at all. Just my wortless two cents on the matter. The new Vapors are better for higher insteps and thicker feet than any of the stock Supremes or Eastons since you get better support or "wrap" around your foot. Easton has a wider skate but seem shallow plus I'm 230lbs..I'd tear up the Stealths playinng two nights a week. My next skate will be Vapor customs..Another thing..Those $35 Graf footbeds are a godsend. I have high arches ad usually in a lot of pain after a game...That is no longer the case.

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I have been reading your posts in the different threads where you want three years of wear, tear, and use on your skates before they fall apart. That may be the one thing you have to sacrifice in your quest. Unless you baby the hell out of your skates, three years of wear is a lot to ask for. Plus, at 210 lbs., those skates will be getting some wicked torque and stress, too. That is why it is easy for me to understand how your S15 skates blew up, also.

I've seen guys in old Riedell's or CCM 652s that they have had for 10-15 years or 10 yr old Supreme 4000s and they play once or twice a week. Ome of those guys are great skaters too. Problem is..those kind of skates arent really made anymore...It is all performance driven with weight being a factor.

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It is impossible to compare the skates in the market place today and how they are built to skates that were made 15 years ago. If you go back just ten years ago, you have the first Vapor 8 Pro model skate built in 1998. I would rather have today's technology in my skates. The older true leather skates(Daoust 301/501) would still break down due to the salt in your sweat destroying the boot. We went through just as many of those back in the day as today's skates built for performance. I was sharpening and selling those skates and remember what guys would hand me to sharpen that were all beat up from playing. I had at least two pair of Daoust 301 that I rotted out the leather inner sole from sweat. It would get to the point where the rivets had nothing inside the boot to grab onto.

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I dont understand how people consider the Supeme line to be wider than the new Vapor XXXX series. If you have a wide forefoot I'd look into the new RBK skates. Thos were the 1st pair I wad dircted to after looking at my foot. People with thick feet/high arch/high insteps shouldnt be buying Easton\Mission skates or Graf 703 variants at all. Just my wortless two cents on the matter. The new Vapors are better for higher insteps and thicker feet than any of the stock Supremes or Eastons since you get better support or "wrap" around your foot. Easton has a wider skate but seem shallow plus I'm 230lbs..I'd tear up the Stealths playinng two nights a week. My next skate will be Vapor customs..Another thing..Those $35 Graf footbeds are a godsend. I have high arches ad usually in a lot of pain after a game...That is no longer the case.

The reason they consider the Supreme wider than the vapor is because it is wider.

Just tried them both on. Supreme is wider. Not sure about the volume, which is what you seem to be talking about.

I also heard that certain Graf models are very wide.

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Find yourself a pair of 2006 CCM Pro Tacks. the fit sounds like it might be right up your alley. i've gone through 2 pairs in 3 years, but i'm on the ice 4-5 days a week skating in B-level AND university Varsity. overall, they're bombproof.

I second the Pro Tacks for durability. They are tanks!

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8090's if you can find them.

Great skate, gone through a fair few pairs now but wouldn't hesitate to buy another, the toes get shredded to hell and they break down just like any other skate I suppose given enough punishment but the understated look (especially with C+'s) and top performance make it my dream skate still.

Sidenote: I have some Kor shift 1's that I still don't wanna use over my final pair of batterd 8090's, it's gonna be a sad day when they get hung up.

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I've also found both Grafs and Pro Tacks to be very durable skates. I sold a pair of Graf 703's to a guy in my hockey league more than two years ago and he's still using them two to three times a week and have shown very little breakdown. Look almost new on the outside. My buddy who uses Pro Tacks from 2006 is still using them playing twice and sometime three times a week and they are beat up, but still are very stiff and have plenty of support left in them. After seeing how my old Grafs have held up I went out an bought a new pair of 735's and I'm hoping they hold up as well as my old 703's have. I'm finally adjusting to the forward pitch and find my cornering and manouvering as well as my straight forward stride has improved steadily as I use them more. This was a very good call on my part to go back to Grafs.

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These bad boys

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Still in my top 3 of all time skates. The older Graf 705 2002 and down were some tuff skates as well.

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