Wannabe Apprecation Station of Badassery and Ass-Kicking and Chewing and Large Pizzas with Extra Testosteroni.

[#44wannabe 4]

ARGH!! Well im not super pissed off because we won the game which shut the little twat up but there was one kid on the other team wearing a face cage who just thought he was invincible... Everytime i hit hit he'd try and kick my feet away as he was on the ice and then he slashed me across the top of my foot for which i now have a huge bruise and when i hit him behind the net he decided to 'hump' leg which meant i couldnt get back infront of the net to cover my d partner's ass (who was standing next to me for some unknown reason).

It just pisses me off that they hide behind their cages but then dissappear when their helmet comes off. If i knew i wouldn't have got a penalty for it i would have just ripped his bucket right off. So instead i just resorted to laying him out everytime he was on the puck near me. Eventually he got the message but the fact he thought it was alright to kick me in the back of the legs, cross check me in the back, slash the top of my foot and hump leg just because hiding behind a bird cage infuriates me. If you're going to play that way take the cage off and be a man about it.

Rant over.

[lyle.m23 0]

completly disagree

[kosydar 0]

Dear wannabe,

Every time you post you reveal more and more how much of an absolute tool you are. We are not impressed with you and how badass you think you are. Please get the hint. Thanks.

Love,

Everyone

[mack 44]

This should be open because I hear this Wannabe guy has fans and they demand to know his wrasslin' stories or whatever he's going on about. I would hope we hear from all his fans to validate claims that he actually has fans or at least the interest of others. Though that sounds impossible to me, so did the realisation that Carrot Top had a working professional career. This thread should also probably be re-named the Wannabe Apprecation Station of Badassery and Ass-Kicking and Chewing and Large Pizzas with Extra Testosteroni.

[chk hrd 164]

This should be open because I hear this Wannabe guy has fans and they demand to know his wrasslin' stories or whatever he's going on about. I would hope we hear from all his fans to validate claims that he actually has fans or at least the interest of others. Though that sounds impossible to me, so did the realisation that Carrot Top had a working professional career. This thread should also probably be re-named the Wannabe Apprecation Station of Badassery and Ass-Kicking and Chewing and Large Pizzas with Extra Testosteroni.

for his fan club you can contact Ben Dover at the San Francisco Hockey Association. If Ben is not available ask for Michael Fitzpatrick...

[lampliter87 8]

I wore a cage in a junior league for a couple of weeks and got exactly the same response. Doesn't make me a pussy, doesn't make me a worse hockey player, doesn't mean squat. If this guy is such a little pest be better than him and prove it with your play. It sounds like he is doing a good job of getting in your head and throwing you off your game. Be a bigger man and play hockey.

[#44wannabe 4]

I nearly wet myself at the topic title. Testosteroni... hahaha

So much for the agreement between myself and Kosydar....

EDIT: I wasnt trying to rag on guys for wearing cages, i was just stating my annoyance for those that wear them but continually make cheap shots because they have the feeling of 'invincibility'. If you want to play hockey and choose to wear one for the purpose of protecting your face then fine, i have no issue with that. However, if i kicked someone in the back of the leg or slashed their foot i'd expect a punch in the face and thus wouldn't do it.

[eric42434224 1]

"If you want to play hockey and choose to wear one for the purpose of protecting your face then fine, i have no issue with that."

I dont think I would be going too far to assume that is exactly why he wears a cage, and therefore, you should have no issue with it. Your issue with him has nothing to do with him wearing a cage. Your issue with him is his play on the ice. Man up and beat him with your play on the ice. The cage issue is a Red Herring.

Reminds me of a game we played last week in a non-check adult league. It was a back and forth game, very intense, with lots of chirping, lots of physical play, with even a full out brawl and player ejections. I went into the boards to get a puck, and so di a guy from the other team. He ended up on the ice, but it was totally clean. Ref right there and no call. He called me a goon and a pussy for wearing a cage. He had a half shield. i told him that if he wants to actually do something, I would gladly take off my helmet and gloves if he would reciprocate. He then got real quiet and skated back to his bench. The ref was right there and actually snickered. I wear a cage to protect the my face...plain and simple. I would hazard a guess that only a miniscule percentage of players wear one only because they are cheap shot players.

EDIT: to clarify due to later posts. I made my comments right in front of the ref, who knows both of us, and said the comments smiling, and in such a fashion as to illustrate the silliness of his comments....as it was obvious in this case, as well as the general consensus in the league, that dropping the gloves and fist fighting is childish and silly.

Sometimes it takes comments like this to illustrate ridiculous behavoir to the person, as they are obviously getting too worked up, and need to be brought back down to reality.

[mrusse01 0]

"If you want to play hockey and choose to wear one for the purpose of protecting your face then fine, i have no issue with that."

I dont think I would be going too far to assume that is exactly why he wears a cage, and therefore, you should have no issue with it. Your issue with him has nothing to do with him wearing a cage. Your issue with him is his play on the ice. Man up and beat him with your play on the ice. The cage issue is a Red Herring.

Would he play the same way without a cage? Probably not. That's what I (and I assume wannabe) have a problem with.

I would hazard a guess that only a miniscule percentage of players wear one only because they are cheap shot players.

I don't think a lot of guys intentionally do it....but a lot of them sure seem to forget how vulnerable you can be with just a visor. 9 times out of 10 it is some idiot with a cage on putting his stick in my face to clear me out of the front of the net or something like that, if it's someone without a cage on they won't get sticks or hands up in the face as often.

[Chadd 916]

Any player who fancies himself a "pest" or "agitator" at the beer league level is an asshole, cage or not.

[pantherfan 0]

Only problems I have with cage users is usually players straight out of juniors putting nice big scratches on visors by going face first into checks or board battles and I sometimes find them to swing their sticks around a little high, but apart from that it doesn't bother me. Spoke about this a couple months back with a guy on the bench at pickup and he claimed he'd had many a fight with people who refused to take their cages off but fought anyway, never seen it myself but thats a no-no in my books.

[eric42434224 1]

Any player who fancies himself a "pest" or "agitator" at the beer league level is an asshole, cage or not.

^^^^^^

Exactamundo.

Lets look at it from another viewpoint. Perhaps it isnt that players play more aggressively with a cage (hockey can and should be aggressive), but that players with a without a cage play a more fearful and passive brand of hockey. Hmmm? I wear a cage and play aggressively (as aggressive as I can but within the rules). Is it wrong that I must sacrafice my play and pussify it so guys that want to wear a half shield to look cool dont get hurt? Just another viewpoint. A shield is a choice, and you need to remember the consequences of wearing one in an aggressive game like hockey.

[kosydar 0]

So much for the agreement between myself and Kosydar....

You said you would tone it down and get over yourself, I said I would hold nothing against you personally. Sounds like my end is still being held up.

[#44wannabe 4]

Not really since this whole thread is a slight against myself.

Eric - Playing hard, aggressive and within the rules is fine by me. However since when was kicking and slashing allowed?

[mrusse01 0]

Any player who fancies himself a "pest" or "agitator" at the beer league level is an asshole, cage or not.

^^^^^^

Exactamundo.

Lets look at it from another viewpoint. Perhaps it isnt that players play more aggressively with a cage (hockey can and should be aggressive), but that players with a without a cage play a more fearful and passive brand of hockey. Hmmm? I wear a cage and play aggressively (as aggressive as I can but within the rules). Is it wrong that I must sacrafice my play and pussify it so guys that want to wear a half shield to look cool dont get hurt? Just another viewpoint. A shield is a choice, and you need to remember the consequences of wearing one in an aggressive game like hockey.

If you feel like you would need to 'sacrafice' your play without a cage on, in men's league, you are playing too aggressive.

[Allsmokenopancake 0]

Not really since this whole thread is a slight against myself.

Eric - Playing hard, aggressive and within the rules is fine by me. However since when was kicking and slashing allowed?

All the time in Karate and Fencing

[dw91 0]

i wonder what the hockey world would be like if everyone had to wear a cage...of course it would never happen

[greech 4]

Firstoff, I'd like to know what level your squad is at?

[eric42434224 1]

Any player who fancies himself a "pest" or "agitator" at the beer league level is an asshole, cage or not.

^^^^^^

Exactamundo.

Lets look at it from another viewpoint. Perhaps it isnt that players play more aggressively with a cage (hockey can and should be aggressive), but that players with a without a cage play a more fearful and passive brand of hockey. Hmmm? I wear a cage and play aggressively (as aggressive as I can but within the rules). Is it wrong that I must sacrafice my play and pussify it so guys that want to wear a half shield to look cool dont get hurt? Just another viewpoint. A shield is a choice, and you need to remember the consequences of wearing one in an aggressive game like hockey.

If you feel like you would need to 'sacrafice' your play without a cage on, in men's league, you are playing too aggressive.

That is a matter of opinion, and an opinion I dont share. Your definition of aggressive....and your idea of what constitutes an adult league for that matter....likely differ from mine.

Not really since this whole thread is a slight against myself.

Eric - Playing hard, aggressive and within the rules is fine by me. However since when was kicking and slashing allowed?

They arent of course. Never even implied they were.

[mrusse01 0]

That is a matter of opinion, and an opinion I dont share. Your definition of aggressive....and your idea of what constitutes an adult league for that matter....likely differ from mine.

You are sounding dangerously close to one of those windmills out there with a cage on that everybody hates playing against. If it's non-contact, it's beer league, you wear a cage so you don't get sticked in the mouth by mistake, hit in the face with a puck, that sort of thing...not so you can fly around out there like the second coming of Bobby Clarke. Really, if taking your cage off would change your game that much, you need to re-think your entire approach.

[eric42434224 1]

That is a matter of opinion, and an opinion I dont share. Your definition of aggressive....and your idea of what constitutes an adult league for that matter....likely differ from mine.

You are sounding dangerously close to one of those windmills out there with a cage on that everybody hates playing against. If it's non-contact, it's beer league, you wear a cage so you don't get sticked in the mouth by mistake, hit in the face with a puck, that sort of thing...not so you can fly around out there like the second coming of Bobby Clarke. Really, if taking your cage off would change your game that much, you need to re-think your entire approach.

you sound dangerously like someone who is making silly assumptions with no basis in fact. I play completely within the rules, but I play aggressively. I play hard and leave it all out on the ice....just like everyone else in my league.

Let me help illustrate and assist you in understanding.

It there is a puck in the corner, I go after it as hard as I can. That space and puck is just as much mine as anyone elses. If someone goes after it at the same time and we get there at the same time, I am not going to let up. If we run into each other, and he goes down...too bad. And I will dig after that puck too. I dont break any rules or am a "windmill" (that was just ridiculous by the way). I play HARD, and AGRESSIVE. Hockey is hard and aggressive. Would I go into the corners as hard without a cage? Of course not. Why do you wear shin guards? Would you go into the corners...or play hockey the same way if you didnt wear shin guards? Nope. Why is this any different...both are for protection, and can affect the way you play.

If you dont want to wear a cage, fine....but you cant expect me to change my perfectly legal and acceptable style of play to coddle you. Its your choice. Go start a watered-down, mellow and coombyah league with all the half-sheilders (see...that generalization isnt nice, and neither is the windmill one).

[tro 4]

That is a matter of opinion, and an opinion I dont share. Your definition of aggressive....and your idea of what constitutes an adult league for that matter....likely differ from mine.

You are sounding dangerously close to one of those windmills out there with a cage on that everybody hates playing against. If it's non-contact, it's beer league, you wear a cage so you don't get sticked in the mouth by mistake, hit in the face with a puck, that sort of thing...not so you can fly around out there like the second coming of Bobby Clarke. Really, if taking your cage off would change your game that much, you need to re-think your entire approach.

Would I go into the corners as hard without a cage? Of course not.

I think this is the original point of Wannabe's, to many guys with cages play hard because they have cages and would play differently if they didn't have the extra protection. Now you may play clean and hard with your cage Eric which is good for you.

Wannabe's point is that alot of cage guys will play dirty/chippy with the cage and they wouldn't without.

In my league where 90% of the guys go visor/no visor, the cage guys are some of the most dirtiest punks in the league and the three top penalty leaders are cage guys.

I think the cage just gives some guys the extra sense of toughness/protection, like you going into corners, but some guys say "hell I can be dirty, shove after the whistle, slash, no problem my teeth will stay safe"

Some may say it is an personality thing, I think it is a protection/personality thing, it's like the guy in the SUV in the snow.

Now Kicking a guy is complete personality, anyone who would kick someone with sharp steel has some serious issues, cage or no cage.

I don't care if guys wear a cage, teeth and eyes are slightly important, but don't run around like you are invinable just because your teeth are safe.

Sweet title Mack.

[chippa13 1844]

Any player who fancies himself a "pest" or "agitator" at the beer league level is an asshole, cage or not.

^^^^^^

Exactamundo.

Lets look at it from another viewpoint. Perhaps it isnt that players play more aggressively with a cage (hockey can and should be aggressive), but that players with a without a cage play a more fearful and passive brand of hockey. Hmmm? I wear a cage and play aggressively (as aggressive as I can but within the rules). Is it wrong that I must sacrafice my play and pussify it so guys that want to wear a half shield to look cool dont get hurt? Just another viewpoint. A shield is a choice, and you need to remember the consequences of wearing one in an aggressive game like hockey.

Guys with cages are usually the ones not in control of their sticks, always seem to have hands and sticks high, and tend to play a much more reckless style. If not playing like that is pussifying your game, then so be it. If you must continue like that then don't be offended everytime you clip a guy who responds with, "Take off the cage if you're gonna play like that."

[fatwabbit 93]

I've played with cages all my hockey life and wont play with a visor. I remember sitting in the LHS when I was goign thru school, thinking about whether I should spend my hard saved money on a cage. Took me 15 min to decide I should not, only to walk out and back in. Spent my money on the cage.

Played the following weekend, got hit in the cage with the puck.... Twice. I decide to put a small sticker on my helmet for everytime i got hit in the cage.... 2 months later the helmet was more than half covered.

Anyway, i think its your own personal protection... its up to you to wear it or not.

[Chadd 916]

That is a matter of opinion, and an opinion I dont share. Your definition of aggressive....and your idea of what constitutes an adult league for that matter....likely differ from mine.

You are sounding dangerously close to one of those windmills out there with a cage on that everybody hates playing against. If it's non-contact, it's beer league, you wear a cage so you don't get sticked in the mouth by mistake, hit in the face with a puck, that sort of thing...not so you can fly around out there like the second coming of Bobby Clarke. Really, if taking your cage off would change your game that much, you need to re-think your entire approach.

you sound dangerously like someone who is making silly assumptions with no basis in fact. I play completely within the rules, but I play aggressively. I play hard and leave it all out on the ice....just like everyone else in my league.

Let me help illustrate and assist you in understanding.

It there is a puck in the corner, I go after it as hard as I can. That space and puck is just as much mine as anyone elses. If someone goes after it at the same time and we get there at the same time, I am not going to let up. If we run into each other, and he goes down...too bad. And I will dig after that puck too. I dont break any rules or am a "windmill" (that was just ridiculous by the way). I play HARD, and AGRESSIVE. Hockey is hard and aggressive. Would I go into the corners as hard without a cage? Of course not. Why do you wear shin guards? Would you go into the corners...or play hockey the same way if you didnt wear shin guards? Nope. Why is this any different...both are for protection, and can affect the way you play.

If you dont want to wear a cage, fine....but you cant expect me to change my perfectly legal and acceptable style of play to coddle you. Its your choice. Go start a watered-down, mellow and coombyah league with all the half-sheilders (see...that generalization isnt nice, and neither is the windmill one).

In my experience (and I'm not saying it is the case here) most of the guys who go to such lengths to emphasize how "hard and aggressive" they play, are exactly the guys most people hate playing against and take beer leagues way too seriously.