Injurries with visor

[Griff 2]

If you're going to play in a league with a bunch of guys who've played jr's, college or high level hs hockey you should be okay. I've never had a problem playing mens league or pickup with good players it's always the guys who can't keep up and instead of just letting go they hook/hold/chop the better guys. I play summer league with a few former D1 and current pro guys and it's usually the cleanest hockey I play all year no one has anything to prove it's just for fun. As for the injuries I've lost a tooth and had more stitches than I can count but that was in jr's now I don't wear anything and it's very rarely a problem.

[drewptwo 1]

I wear an oakley pro straight small half shield and took a stick right up under it and cut my right eye (cut around it and scratched the eye itself). I probably woud have been fine but I saw it comming last second and tilted my head back trying to get my face out of the way but all I did was expose my eyes.

[Sed27 0]

While subbing for a men's league team a few years back, one of my teammates got into a skirmish after a whistle and intentionally headbutted an opposing player in the face with his visor. It was complete bush league B.S. and I stopped playing with that team shortly there after.

The kicker was this guy didn't think he had done anything wrong.

[Ahriman 1]

Coworker at the shop was late for work today.

He had 9 stitches done on his face because someone head-butted him while he was wearing a cage and he had nothing on. The kid is like 19, the other guy was at least 20 years his senior.

I'd really like to say that over all statistically it all works out in the end for open hockey injuries but I just dont see the evidence that it is that way after playing for years all over the mid west.

[Larry54 243]

Coworker at the shop was late for work today.

He had 9 stitches done on his face because someone head-butted him while he was wearing a cage and he had nothing on. The kid is like 19, the other guy was at least 20 years his senior.

I'd really like to say that over all statistically it all works out in the end for open hockey injuries but I just dont see the evidence that it is that way after playing for years all over the mid west.

Well I'm 48 and from my many more years of playing, I can assure you that the "grumpy old man" syndrom is not prevalent. Maybe trouble likes to follow you around for some reason.

[gxc999 7]

I swear by the full shield. Especially playing with C and B players, sticks and pucks get up an inordinate amount of the time. Don't try to be a hero or tough guy, wear legit protection unless you're making a living play this game...

[lotus 2]

Older guy picked a fight with me over the summer, I had a full cage, he had a visor. We wrestled, both teams piled on, and he throws 5-6 on me underneath it all before I can get my arms free from his teammates. At that point he should probably have learned why it's stupid to pick a fight with someone who has a cage on, but I just face washed him.

Anyway I wore a half shield for one rec league game and then retired it. Puck deflected and grazed my jaw, knocked me down. Wasn't bad, but scared me back to the cage. Not worth it. This was a few years ago. I considered putting it on an older helmet for the occasional inline game that I join, but people are reckless everywhere.

[Ahriman 1]

Coworker at the shop was late for work today.

He had 9 stitches done on his face because someone head-butted him while he was wearing a cage and he had nothing on. The kid is like 19, the other guy was at least 20 years his senior.

I'd really like to say that over all statistically it all works out in the end for open hockey injuries but I just dont see the evidence that it is that way after playing for years all over the mid west.

Well I'm 48 and from my many more years of playing, I can assure you that the "grumpy old man" syndrom is not prevalent. Maybe trouble likes to follow you around for some reason.

You'd like to think so but I'm not talking from personal experience, I'm talking from the experiences of nearly every 19-26 year old I've worked with in two hockey stores in two states and across an entire IM league in a third.

[fieldofdreams 0]

How are all of you guys bustin teeth with the half visor? I thought it was pretty much a given that if you wear a half visor, you also wear a mouth guard...

But it's not a given that a mouthgauard will prevent broken teeth.

Clearly but the risk is significantly reduced. Aside from broken teeth, it helps degrease the likelihood of dislodging a tooth...

A mouthguard really isn't designed to protect teeth, it is designed more to protect concussions. If it were to protect the teeth, they wouldn't require youth players who already wear full facial protection to wear them.

EDIT: double post

[number21 3]

It's been said many times before on this board.

Cage, visor, beer league, pick-up, pond, offense, defense and goalie...

There is no age limit on assholes.

[thehomez 0]

How are all of you guys bustin teeth with the half visor? I thought it was pretty much a given that if you wear a half visor, you also wear a mouth guard...

But it's not a given that a mouthgauard will prevent broken teeth.

Clearly but the risk is significantly reduced. Aside from broken teeth, it helps degrease the likelihood of dislodging a tooth...

A mouthguard really isn't designed to protect teeth, it is designed more to protect concussions. If it were to protect the teeth, they wouldn't require youth players who already wear full facial protection to wear them.

EDIT: double post

Incorrect. There seems to be a huge myth around the hockey community regarding mouth guards and concussions. There was a recent meeting where it was discussed and determined there to be insufficient evidence to prove that. Also one of the leading concussion and neurological experts in north america stated that he does not believe there is any added benefit in preventing concussions. A link to a short article regarding the meeting is below. Also mouth guards are intended to prevent some oro-facial and maxillo-facial injuries as well as broken and chipped teeth, obviously not near 100% effective. And as a side note, I hope the article below does not discourage the use of mouth guards.

Mouth Guard and concussion myth article

[DavidT 11]

Ive had more cuts to the face from visors than without.

I hate them.

[fieldofdreams 0]

How are all of you guys bustin teeth with the half visor? I thought it was pretty much a given that if you wear a half visor, you also wear a mouth guard...

But it's not a given that a mouthgauard will prevent broken teeth.

Clearly but the risk is significantly reduced. Aside from broken teeth, it helps degrease the likelihood of dislodging a tooth...

A mouthguard really isn't designed to protect teeth, it is designed more to protect concussions. If it were to protect the teeth, they wouldn't require youth players who already wear full facial protection to wear them.

EDIT: double post

Incorrect. There seems to be a huge myth around the hockey community regarding mouth guards and concussions. There was a recent meeting where it was discussed and determined there to be insufficient evidence to prove that. Also one of the leading concussion and neurological experts in north america stated that he does not believe there is any added benefit in preventing concussions. A link to a short article regarding the meeting is below. Also mouth guards are intended to prevent some oro-facial and maxillo-facial injuries as well as broken and chipped teeth, obviously not near 100% effective. And as a side note, I hope the article below does not discourage the use of mouth guards.

Mouth Guard and concussion myth article

I said protect, not PREVENT.

[grossie 0]

Coworker at the shop was late for work today.

He had 9 stitches done on his face because someone head-butted him while he was wearing a cage and he had nothing on. The kid is like 19, the other guy was at least 20 years his senior.

I'd really like to say that over all statistically it all works out in the end for open hockey injuries but I just dont see the evidence that it is that way after playing for years all over the mid west.

Well I'm 48 and from my many more years of playing, I can assure you that the "grumpy old man" syndrom is not prevalent. Maybe trouble likes to follow you around for some reason.

You'd like to think so but I'm not talking from personal experience, I'm talking from the experiences of nearly every 19-26 year old I've worked with in two hockey stores in two states and across an entire IM league in a third.

Ok, Ahriman, we hear you- you're a saint and every old guy you've ever played against is a jerk. Seems reasonable to me.

I'm glad you did such wide polling in gathering your statistical data.

[Ahriman 1]

I made no secret that I have an ax to grind. You could stop giving me an excuse to post more...

[Too Old 1]

All I can say is this: don't lump older players into one group just because some are that way. And lest you forget one day you'll be the old fart on the ice. ;)

[Larry54 243]

...First off for the most part, I only see the 40+ crowd wearing visors wear as all the young kids are wearing a full cage so all the crosbys out there probably are out numbered by aging fat guys too set in their ways to put on a full cage...

Well I don't know if you're one of the Crosby's out there, but you've got the whining part down pat.

[thehomez 0]

How are all of you guys bustin teeth with the half visor? I thought it was pretty much a given that if you wear a half visor, you also wear a mouth guard...

But it's not a given that a mouthgauard will prevent broken teeth.

Clearly but the risk is significantly reduced. Aside from broken teeth, it helps degrease the likelihood of dislodging a tooth...

A mouthguard really isn't designed to protect teeth, it is designed more to protect concussions. If it were to protect the teeth, they wouldn't require youth players who already wear full facial protection to wear them.

EDIT: double post

Incorrect. There seems to be a huge myth around the hockey community regarding mouth guards and concussions. There was a recent meeting where it was discussed and determined there to be insufficient evidence to prove that. Also one of the leading concussion and neurological experts in north america stated that he does not believe there is any added benefit in preventing concussions. A link to a short article regarding the meeting is below. Also mouth guards are intended to prevent some oro-facial and maxillo-facial injuries as well as broken and chipped teeth, obviously not near 100% effective. And as a side note, I hope the article below does not discourage the use of mouth guards.

Mouth Guard and concussion myth article

I said protect, not PREVENT.

But you also said they are designed more to protect concussions :P

[flyerman 0]

slightly off-topic but a quick footnote: in my game tonight i skate by this slower guy on the other team to get to a loose puck on the boards in the neutral zone, and as i go around him his stick comes right up and the blade hits me square on the front of my visor. No doubt my visor saved me a very nasty cut and maybe even an eye tonight. Needless to say, no penalty and the guy didn't even acknowledge it and apologize, even after I called him out, the douche.

[markthedeadhead 0]

Irresponsible sticks are everywhere, although in my experience they've been more apparent in lower level men's leagues. Be aware of players on the ice, and keep your head up. I've been cycling with a cage (where required) and visor (hs22 straight) for about a year now at different rinks/levels in NJ, and there are knuckleheads everywhere. Luckily, I have not had an accident yet; just be aware of yourself at all times if you wear anything less than a cage.

[Larry54 243]

At 5'7", I've also noticed that the likelihood of getting hit in the face is inversely proportional to your height!

[HattrickSwayze 3]

Irresponsible sticks are everywhere, although in my experience they've been more apparent in lower level men's leagues.

I've noticed the same thing. I watched the top level division in the league I play in and almost everybody was wearing a visor or nothing at all. Cages were pretty rare. In the lower levels it's normally 95% cages.

[james12lucy 0]

Irresponsible sticks are everywhere, although in my experience they've been more apparent in lower level men's leagues.

I've noticed the same thing. I watched the top level division in the league I play in and almost everybody was wearing a visor or nothing at all. Cages were pretty rare. In the lower levels it's normally 95% cages.

I agree as well. Higher level hockey generally means the players have had experience playing without a cage, thus making them aware of the enheirant risks. Most people have been clipped while wearing a visor and are more aware of their stick at all times. Players that are accustomed to wearing a cage really never feel the full affect of taking a high stick. I also believe that higher level hockey players would generally carry their sticks lower to receive passes.

[LkptTiger 1]

Most people have been clipped while wearing a visor and are more aware of their stick at all times.

Most guys who have played high(er)-level competitive hockey (at least in leagues where you're seeing visors/exposed faces) made the mistake of letting their stick get away from them a handful of times...and have been thumped for it. Once you get whacked two or three times, you start making a conscious effort to make sure your stick stays down. At least that's how I learned.