Worst Trend to Happen to Hockey?

[skyscrape 5]

Why bother trying to shoot over him when it is just as easy to not blast it high and just bring the puck around him. Blasting it high does nobody any good. Point shots, especially in adult leagues, should either be tip-able or create rebounds. Putting one off my chin in front accomplishes neither and prevents your teammates from creating screens.

Ummm Because I can beat the goalie blocker side and glove side cross bar down. I like it when that happens. I only shoot that high when I have a clear lane. I keep it low when there is a screen. I am just messing with you.

On another note I am sure we can both agree on this one. Guys who one hand their wrist shot follow through high enough to remove an eye! Took one to the eye tonight drew blood playing shinny!

[fogelberg 9]

Company logos on socks, like Reebok and Nike.

[rinkrat94 1]

Worst trend in hockey — Sean Avery, Matt Cooke, Jordin Tootoo and any other cheapshot artist. Cant stand that aspect of Hockey.

Also, what I dont like is the one or two enforcers on the team that clearly have nothing to offer to the team outside of fighting. Yeah, Derek Boogaard and several of his kind shouldn't be on the ice at all.

I agree. Another thing I can not stand is how it is acceptabe for teams to start chep shotting if they are losing big in the third period. That "sending a message" is bs. Any knuckledragger can deliver a cheap shot or fight. Tough hockey is winning physical battles in the corner or getting to the net.

[goblue9280 33]

Also, what I dont like is the one or two enforcers on the team that clearly have nothing to offer to the team outside of fighting. Yeah, Derek Boogaard and several of his kind shouldn't be on the ice at all.

I'm all for fighting in hockey, but this irks me as well.

Using your example of Boogaard, he has 3 goal and 589 PIM, that's roughly 1 goal every 200 PIM. Compare that to Probie who averaged a goal every 20 PIM's (163G, 3300PIM) or even Domi at 1 goal every 35 PIM (104,3515).Kocur, McSorley, Simon, Brown, Schultz, Tiger... go down the list, none of these guys even approached a goal every 50 PIM, let alone 1 every 200. It's ridiculous when you look at it that way.

[Chadd 916]

I'm all for fighting in hockey, but this irks me as well.

Using your example of Boogaard, he has 3 goal and 589 PIM, that's roughly 1 goal every 200 PIM. Compare that to Probie who averaged a goal every 20 PIM's (163G, 3300PIM) or even Domi at 1 goal every 35 PIM (104,3515).Kocur, McSorley, Simon, Brown, Schultz, Tiger... go down the list, none of these guys even approached a goal every 50 PIM, let alone 1 every 200. It's ridiculous when you look at it that way.

Easy solution, if you end a game with more PIMS than minutes played, you are suspended without pay for the next game. Teams should also be prevented from dressing a replacement player for someone that is suspended.

[BenderHockey 127]

Teams should also be prevented from dressing a replacement player for someone that is suspended.

I agree with this whole-heartedly. It would show that a suspension can really be meaningful, other than a week off.

[rogerwaldrup 0]

I love the game and I love playing it. I agree that the attacking after a good hit is a bit annoying.

[chippa13 1844]

Easy solution, if you end a game with more PIMS than minutes played, you are suspended without pay for the next game. Teams should also be prevented from dressing a replacement player for someone that is suspended.

There are some players who could be penalized by this that maybe don't deserve to be lumped in. Shawn Thornton averages 10:08 TOI/G so if a guy like him has a couple of fights and a tripping minor then he is getting suspended but fighting is just one part of his role as he gets a semi-regular shift.

[Krev 86]

There are some players who could be penalized by this that maybe don't deserve to be lumped in. Shawn Thornton averages 10:08 TOI/G so if a guy like him has a couple of fights and a tripping minor then he is getting suspended but fighting is just one part of his role as he gets a semi-regular shift.

It would have to be more refined for it work. Something like if you end with more minutes in major penalties than TOI, then you're suspended.

So using the above example, TOI is 10:08 and two fighting majors net him 10:00. He escapes suspension by 8 seconds. Would certainly give coaches more reason to roll their lines.

[chippa13 1844]

You forgot the ticky-tack tripping minor.

[Krev 86]

You forgot the ticky-tack tripping minor.

Like I said, it'd have to be more refined.

[zebra_steve 11]

Yeah,

This idea will never get past the owners and the NHLPA..... Better chance of banning fights IMHO. The NHL will do whatever they want, the problem is the "trickle down" that happens at all levels below them.... gotta develop the "next" enforcer..... I think that it's too ingrained into the hockey culture - at least since the Broad Street Bullies and the Big Bad Bruins of the 1970's.....

Another consideration is the fringe player - a 3rd\4th liner - that plays gritty and on the edge but gets maybe 6 shifts a game... take a dumb penaly and coach benches him or maybe a ref that has a bit tighter standard than usual and he gets dinged for a couple that are right on the line.... now he gets suspended? If it's the staged fights that concern you, make them pay a couple $$$k for each fighting major...... Sure it's legal..... how bad do you want a piece of him? Maybe escrow $50k per player and automatically withdraw the fines to avoid "passing the hat" or someone in management paying for it.

IRRC - they already have automatic fines for misconduct and game misconduct penalties.

[nicholus.h 0]

I think if you're going to accept fighting as part of the game, you're going to have to accept "enforcers" as part of the game, too. Yes, sometimes teams sign players who are good at one thing and are liabilities everywhere else on the ice. There are plenty of defensive defensemen who are a liability to their teams on offense and it's up to the GM to decide whether or not this is worth it for their team and whether or not it's a good fit. The league isn't chock full of Domi's and Probert's (as goblue9280 so aptly pointed out). What are the rest of the teams supposed to do?

Easy solution, if you end a game with more PIMS than minutes played, you are suspended without pay for the next game. Teams should also be prevented from dressing a replacement player for someone that is suspended.

Wait, so the guy who gets in fights is gonna get the same automatic penalty as the guy who gives out head shots? This seems totally insane to me.

[maniacaniac 2]

The cheapness of the replica Reebok jerseys. The old CCM and Koho jerseys had everything sewn on them. these stupid RBK Edge jersey's have some stupid heat sealed patches for the secondary logos.

The disappearing art of the hip-check. Combine this with the fact most officials don't seem to know what one is when they see it, so the arm goes up.

Officials making calls based on the result of the play. Two recent calls against Tim Gleason of the Hurricanes come to mind.

The freaking instigator rule. We have more guys like Avery, Cooke, and Tootoo because when they do something stupid no one can really go after them because they will get tossed.

Staged fights. I really hate the two guys having a conversation while waiting for the puck to drop and then go at it after they agree to go.

[goblue9280 33]

The disappearing art of the hip-check.

Still kills me that we all missed out on many more years of this...

[ndlancer95 0]

Still kills me that we all missed out on many more years of this...

You mean the clean hit and then no fight? I miss that kind of hockey

[chippa13 1844]

In all fairness, it was Claude Lemieux. Of course there would be no fight.

[nicholus.h 0]

Still kills me that we all missed out on many more years of this...

My favorite check of all-time, no question. I just noticed that you see Lemieux get up and then try to save face or something by impotently getting some snow into Osgood's face.

[interpathway 9]

I just noticed that you see Lemieux get up and then try to save face or something by impotently getting some snow into Osgood's face.

Which leads to a dustup in today's game.

[Machinehead2k5 32]

Great hit by Vlad. Also it's nice to see that Lemieux might have given a snowshower, he probably said something to Vlad about getting him later instead of just trying to fight him for the hit.

[Chadd 916]

There are some players who could be penalized by this that maybe don't deserve to be lumped in. Shawn Thornton averages 10:08 TOI/G so if a guy like him has a couple of fights and a tripping minor then he is getting suspended but fighting is just one part of his role as he gets a semi-regular shift.

Then it's up to the coach to use him more in that game or risk losing him for the next one.

[bigdmac 12]

Easy solution, if you end a game with more PIMS than minutes played, you are suspended without pay for the next game. Teams should also be prevented from dressing a replacement player for someone that is suspended.

That first rule would just cause way to many problems and issues, but im with you 100% on the replacement rule

[nicholus.h 0]

Then it's up to the coach to use him more in that game or risk losing him for the next one.

So...now we're punishing this player because of what the coach is doing? Have to be honest, you aren't doing a great job of selling this rule.

[Chadd 916]

So...now we're punishing this player because of what the coach is doing? Have to be honest, you aren't doing a great job of selling this rule.

I'm not trying to sell it. I can just live without seeing guys whose primary contribution to a team is "toughness". If a guy averages more PIMs than minutes played, he doesn't really belong in the NHL.

[troy 12]

No, I think that player belongs in the NHL today, which is why there are a seemingly inordinate amount of players whose sole contributions are toughness. You don't want an NHL where a player can average more PIMS than TOI on a semi-regular basis, I'm not sure this rule is the best way to accomplish that, if it will ever be achieved. An idealized game of hockey won't be possible for many generations.