malcb33 97 Report post Posted August 7, 2011 Has anyone tried SK-8T fuel? It definitely sounds interesting? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AIREAYE 248 Report post Posted August 7, 2011 Save your money :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IniNew 53 Report post Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) Has anyone tried SK-8T fuel? It definitely sounds interesting?Not sure how a "permanent liquid layer" is going to intensify your edge... Edited August 7, 2011 by IniNew Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
malcb33 97 Report post Posted August 7, 2011 I have no idea if this actually works, but wouldn't reducing "friction by maintaining a permanent liquid layer between the skate blade and ice surface" be the same thing Thermablades tried to achieve? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtrainerguy28 478 Report post Posted August 7, 2011 Save your money :)Really have you tried it?Ever player I have used it with has noticed a difference but one skating coach. And that person even said with the steel they had (z-channel) that may be the reason and I agree.Thats from AAA bantam kids to some top NHL players. All said they noticed it after they came off the ice and we didnt tell them it was on the skates before hand they thought I had just done the skates in a different way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy 194 Report post Posted August 7, 2011 I've never used SK8T fuel but will say most blade treatments work well. The only way to know if it works for you is to try it. Friction reducers do work, they are not "snakeoil", they've been proven over and over. Oldtrainer guy, why would you say a blade treatment would not work on a Zchannel? I use them all the time on ZC's and they work well. A liquid one would be even better than say a wax type as it could easily be applied inside the channel. Not necessary though for friction reduction, more for snow removal in the channel. But a friction reducer on the outside of the channel would work identical to any other type sharpening. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AIREAYE 248 Report post Posted August 7, 2011 Really have you tried it?Ever player I have used it with has noticed a difference but one skating coach. And that person even said with the steel they had (z-channel) that may be the reason and I agree.Thats from AAA bantam kids to some top NHL players. All said they noticed it after they came off the ice and we didnt tell them it was on the skates before hand they thought I had just done the skates in a different way.I'm not saying that it doesn't have an effect or what have you, but imo it definitely isn't worth the $25+tax that it costs. If you factor in the time for application and re-application, a lot of the 'effects' you might notice could even be placebo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aarondevera 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2011 I've given it a good test run and haven't found any noticeable on-ice improvements. One of the claims of SK-8 Fuel was less buildup of snow, but I was still pulling slush between shifts and after skates. On the other hand, it didn't hinder any part of my game, either. After proper application, it makes the blade feel smooth to the touch, if not a little greasy. It's a nice little addition for shop guys to add at the end of honing, but probably isn't worth the MSRP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy 194 Report post Posted August 8, 2011 I've given it a good test run and haven't found any noticeable on-ice improvements. One of the claims of SK-8 Fuel was less buildup of snow, but I was still pulling slush between shifts and after skates. On the other hand, it didn't hinder any part of my game, either. After proper application, it makes the blade feel smooth to the touch, if not a little greasy. It's a nice little addition for shop guys to add at the end of honing, but probably isn't worth the MSRP.What, $25 for a treatment! Something doesn't seem right. Not worth more than $2. I've researched all the friction reducers, and experimented with almost all of them. Even the best NASA grade I use doesn't cost or is worth $25. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aarondevera 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2011 What, $25 for a treatment! Something doesn't seem right. Not worth more than $2. I've researched all the friction reducers, and experimented with almost all of them. Even the best NASA grade I use doesn't cost or is worth $25.Lol... I never said anything about charging for a treatment. The kit itself is what's expensive. I was talking about something for sharpeners to do to a blade post-honing. For that, probably wouldn't charge more than an extra buck or two. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy 194 Report post Posted August 8, 2011 Lol... I never said anything about charging for a treatment. The kit itself is what's expensive. I was talking about something for sharpeners to do to a blade post-honing. For that, probably wouldn't charge more than an extra buck or two.Wow, you scared me for a moment! I've paid $75 for 1/4 oz of a different special stuff, so $25 for a kit is ok. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aarondevera 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2011 Upon further review...Took a decent shinny skate tonight without SK8 Fuel. Not sure if it was the late ice time, or that my legs were just tired (hadn't really done anything out of the ordinary), or that I had a fresh 90/75 sharpening, but I felt slightly stickier on the ice. I've been using SF the past three or four sessions because we have a tester available in the shop, but didn't notice a change then. I'm going to give SF another try tomorrow... let you know if I feel a difference this time around. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtrainerguy28 478 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 I've never used SK8T fuel but will say most blade treatments work well. The only way to know if it works for you is to try it. Friction reducers do work, they are not "snakeoil", they've been proven over and over. Oldtrainer guy, why would you say a blade treatment would not work on a Zchannel? I use them all the time on ZC's and they work well. A liquid one would be even better than say a wax type as it could easily be applied inside the channel. Not necessary though for friction reduction, more for snow removal in the channel. But a friction reducer on the outside of the channel would work identical to any other type sharpening.I don't believe I said it didn't work I believe I said the person on it didn't feel the difference. Now anyone else and I only work with Pros that I use it with and don't tell them I am using it ALL have said they felt the difference. Including some big name NHL guys. I even tried it on a goalie that didn't have his skate sharpened so there was no heat to allow the SF to get into the blade better and he said on a dull skate it felt like a fresh sharpening but wore near the end of a 2 hour work out.I know they are getting independent 3rd party testing done so that facts can be shown that it actually does help with glide and corners as it says it does! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PMurphy17 25 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 I don't believe I said it didn't work I believe I said the person on it didn't feel the difference. Now anyone else and I only work with Pros that I use it with and don't tell them I am using it ALL have said they felt the difference. Including some big name NHL guys. I even tried it on a goalie that didn't have his skate sharpened so there was no heat to allow the SF to get into the blade better and he said on a dull skate it felt like a fresh sharpening but wore near the end of a 2 hour work out.I know they are getting independent 3rd party testing done so that facts can be shown that it actually does help with glide and corners as it says it does!I wish I only worked with Professionals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the iceman 132 Report post Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) Here are some videos that relate to the 'SK-8T Fuel'.http://video.citytv.com/video/detail/908461606001.000000/sk8t-fuel-is-here/and Edited August 12, 2011 by the iceman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy 194 Report post Posted August 13, 2011 I don't believe I said it didn't work I believe I said the person on it didn't feel the difference. Now anyone else and I only work with Pros that I use it with and don't tell them I am using it ALL have said they felt the difference. Including some big name NHL guys. I even tried it on a goalie that didn't have his skate sharpened so there was no heat to allow the SF to get into the blade better and he said on a dull skate it felt like a fresh sharpening but wore near the end of a 2 hour work out.I know they are getting independent 3rd party testing done so that facts can be shown that it actually does help with glide and corners as it says it does!Oh, I thought when you said this, "And that person even said with the steel they had (z-channel) that may be the reason and I agree", you meant that you agreed that it wouldn't work with the Z channel. Third party testing is the way to go (unlike thermoblades internal testing). I hope they don't use live skaters, rather controlled lab testing. Still I have yet to see a blade treatment that doesn't work better than a blade not treated, even plain wax improves glide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtrainerguy28 478 Report post Posted August 13, 2011 I wish I only worked with Professionals Nice......(As in the fact that I only use it with the higher level players outside of work as I dont have endless supplies for FREE to use it on all skaters skates).I guess I need to clarify EVERYTHING I write. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
malcb33 97 Report post Posted September 20, 2011 I decided to bite the bullet and give this stuff a try. So far its been great, definitely noticeable difference in glide IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtrainerguy28 478 Report post Posted September 21, 2011 Feedback I am getting is it works best when applied while the blade is hot. Also I apply with the product on a piece of leather and go slowly over the blade. So far its had pretty good results both teams I am working with for the season seem to really like it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tondog 12 Report post Posted September 21, 2011 Nu Finish car wax would work exactly the same way. The language that they used in the video discribed car wax. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckhoggy 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2011 anymore recent feedback? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aarondevera 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2011 All right, so upon further review of using Sk8-Fuel, the product has been making a difference and the on-ice performance is noticeable. I've skated with it, skated without it, then skated with it again, and was able to tell the difference. While not really noticeable on straight, end-to-end skating, I found myself in and out of turns and pivots faster than without an application. However, I wouldn't bank on the claim that the paste's film is 'permanent,' even without sharpening. After 1 hour of ice time I've been getting snow and slush buildup on the side of my blades... To be fair, I've been wiping off my blades liberally after every session, so that might have something to do with it, but I can't bring myself to store my skates in my bag without drying them off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicksmission14 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2011 Nu Finish car wax would work exactly the same way. The language that they used in the video discribed car wax.I don't think Nu-Finish is a good choice because it's very abrasive actually. However, I don't see why a modern non-carnauba based automotive sealant that's designed to sheet water wouldn't do the same thing. Some modern sealants have amazing durability and ability to sheet water.I still own distribution rights for a large chemical manufacturer. If a sharpening shop wanted to test out a product I think would work, I'd be more then glad to send some out for free and see if they like it. It's an aircraft grade product with strong adhesion properties to stainless steel. Lot more cost effective than this too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buccaneer 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2011 http://www.ebay.ca/itm/SK-8T-FUEL-NHL-APPROVED-revolutionary-skate-blade-performance-coating-HKY-A-/220882782595?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item336da3c983There is a reference to it being NHL approved in this ebay listing ... something thermalblade never got I dont think? ... might just pull the trigger and get some Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
malcb33 97 Report post Posted October 30, 2011 (edited) I've been using this product a month or so now. I do notice a difference in guide when using the product, kinda like trying FBV for the first time. It's not mind blowing or anything but I do feel the product gives you a slight advantage. Shame about their attitude though. Edited October 30, 2011 by malcb33 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites