Hockeylifestyle 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2016 I just got new skates and I cannot bake them until tomorrow at about 4 pm. Is there any way to speed up the process of the hardening because I need to hit the ice at about 6 am on Friday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gummer12 134 Report post Posted January 14, 2016 Stick them in the fridge/freezer or outside depending on your location Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeylifestyle 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2016 Stick them in the fridge/freezer or outside depending on your location Will it be damaged? BTW I live in Illinois Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gummer12 134 Report post Posted January 14, 2016 no, just leave em out for a few hours for the materials to harden back up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeylifestyle 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2016 no, just leave em out for a few hours for the materials to harden back upI just don't want the boot to deform. Will this happen if I leave it outside overnight? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warren 1 Report post Posted March 22, 2016 On 1/13/2016 at 0:53 AM, Hockeylifestyle said: On 1/13/2016 at 9:41 PM, Gummer12 said: no, just leave em out for a few hours for the materials to harden back up I just don't want the boot to deform. Will this happen if I leave it outside overnight? OK, this *might* be a 'workaround; that could help you. Do the baking (make sure you're not 'half-baked' when you do it (I will be here all week, remember to tip your waitresses! ba-boom!, Anyhow (and this does NOT take care of the lower legs (ankle shin area) Get some PAM (Don't use buttered Pam because about two-weeks into the season, your skate will smell like they were made at the Orville Redenbacher Popcorn plant in upstate 'Wekopah'! Go to like a Dicks Sportingoods -- or any place that you can source this (usually made with clear plastic) 'well, for lack of a better term, it is a last designed to make shoes with a lack of integrity (i.e., they fold up all of the time etc.) These pieces of plastic are VERY thin polycarbonate. You buy a shoe, it is one of the 'discardables'. Any way, ensure that they will hold liquid. Patch or tape any holes etc. Again, I know this sounds rather involved, it is -- but you are going to make a mold (generalized replica) of your foot outline for support so that once molded, things don't fall down into a gelatinous goo! Liberally -- and I do mean LIBERALLY coat the polycarbonate form on the inside with Pam, if that fails to stick or separates, try something like WD-40 or motor oil -- or hey, here's a novel idea -- go to a local crafts store and get some MOLD RELEASE! Anyway, see if you can source it from your dentist, but get some algeanate (sp) or a bit of liquid silicone. Pour it into this polycarbonate 'last' that you will be creating. Give it the appropriate time to cure -- usually about 6 hours and then release it from the 'poly last'. CLEAN THE DARNED THING --WHAT DO YOU DO! LIVE IN A BARN? Oh yeas, I forgot, we are hockey players, that, is indeed, what we do! After cleaning the new thicker rubberized last, put it in the skate with something like stuffed newspaper -- only enough to maintain the generalized shape of the ankle area of the boot -- you are just trying to ensure that it won't collapse. Once done, you can walk away from the skates not fearing anything will happen to them insofar as structural collapse. The best part is that after baking, you can perform this technique and then put them in your FREEZER -- at WILL. Good stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NiCnoK 61 Report post Posted March 29, 2016 ^^^ Woah. I guess that's one way to do it. I put mine in the freezer and they felt the same after I took them out in about an hour or so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All Flash 49 Report post Posted March 29, 2016 20 mins in the fridge or freezer will do it......or you can make a moulded last, your call. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boo10 323 Report post Posted March 30, 2016 I know 24 hours is the play it safe rule, but if you read Bauer's official instructions, it says you only have to wait at least "one" hour before skating. The freezer and everything else are really not necessary, but if it makes you more comfortable, go for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GloriousLeader 31 Report post Posted March 30, 2016 I skated on my new pair probably about 4 hours after baking it.... seems ok. Never heard of the 24 hour rule. Apparently ignorance is a bliss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brandonthequick 13 Report post Posted March 30, 2016 4 hours ago, boo10 said: I know 24 hours is the play it safe rule, but if you read Bauer's official instructions, it says you only have to wait at least "one" hour before skating. The freezer and everything else are really not necessary, but if it makes you more comfortable, go for it. One hour before skating would be plain idiotic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zorlac 22 Report post Posted March 30, 2016 to the OP, you are fine. I baked my MX3s and skated in them 8 hrs later. absolutely no issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boo10 323 Report post Posted March 30, 2016 11 hours ago, brandonthequick said: One hour before skating would be plain idiotic. Tell that to Bauer. That's what their instructions say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boo10 323 Report post Posted March 30, 2016 To the folks who insist you must wait 8, 12 or 24 hours, please tell us where you obtained that information, (please don't quote the Tribal Knowledge of the interwebs). I would think if the glues/resins used in manufacturing really took that long to cure, they'd never get a skate out of the factory with the outsoles properly attached. To my knowledge, a skate doesn't sit for 24 hours after the outsole is attached before the holder is attached. I've seen how roughly the skates are handled to drill the outsole and attach holders. If the glues weren't set, the outsoles would surely separate from the quarter. Bauer says "one hour" and I'm inclined to believe them in the absence of evidence to the contrary. If I'm wrong, show me the light! :) Not trying to be a goof, but I hate seeing myths perpetuated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stick9 891 Report post Posted March 30, 2016 I was told the 24hour rule is used to ensure that any and all adhesives used to manufacturer the skate are fully cured, it's more of a guideline. I've been told to give them a few hours and don't go completely crazy on them. Something worth pondering, cooling is (slowly allowing a compound to return to ambient after high temp) , freezing is (rapidly forcing a compound from extreme high temp to extreme low temp). That's two entirely different things, who knows how those materials will react.... Just a thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All Flash 49 Report post Posted March 30, 2016 I would say the 24 hour rule probably came about after the advent of heat fitting to mould your skates, instead of breaking them in/moulding by wearing them for 20 games or so. At the time, materials used for skates and the process for heat fitting skates was still far from perfected. So spending good money on skates wasn't taken as lightly so to speak, hence the making sure they are good to go before skating in them. Most people i have to tell to stick their skates in a fridge or freezer are people who want to use them immediately or within the next 3 to 4 hours. And as far as I know Bauer is currently the only exception. Which does not include anything coming out this year as I do not have that info. IMHO, when spending big money, unless absolutely necessary to wear them....... Why take the chance? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted March 30, 2016 No matter how long people say, some people will cut corners. 24 hours is overkill, but, you aren't risking anything at that point. I wouldn't feel comfortable suggesting an hour, but I don't make money off of people prematurely breaking down their boots. I would be comfortable with no less than 4-6 hours ahead of time and I would prefer at least 8. Some boots are still above room temperature more than an hour after coming out of the oven, that alone would have me concerned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizzyg12 27 Report post Posted April 3, 2016 If anyone has left their skates in their car while at work on a summer day because you have hockey at 6:00, then You will know the 24 hr rule is a joke. I've done that plenty of times and it can get 180-200 degrees in a car trunk easily. Skates sitting there all day and then going to play. Never had a skate fail or warp or break down because of that. In fact I find this is a great way to "bake" then in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bbd94 26 Report post Posted April 3, 2016 30 minutes ago, Dizzyg12 said: If anyone has left their skates in their car while at work on a summer day because you have hockey at 6:00, then You will know the 24 hr rule is a joke. I've done that plenty of times and it can get 180-200 degrees in a car trunk easily. Skates sitting there all day and then going to play. Never had a skate fail or warp or break down because of that. In fact I find this is a great way to "bake" then in the first place. A trunk is a lot bigger than a skate oven. I agree with Chadd, I would wait at least 8 hours before playing after baking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
