BRUINS_FAN_74 19 Report post Posted November 13, 2015 The gap is fine on mine and the holder sits flushDoes anyone have a picture which was taken undersole of the new plastic toe cap like this?I want to make sure it before I will purchase for my new pair.I've been feeling not good at the gap of leather and boot's outsole. So I'm thinking that if the new toe cap will make similar condition for holders, I don't want to choose it or make a measure for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joepaw 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2015 my son is 11 and is currently in apx2. pretty stiff boot. Thinking of getting these for him. I like what I am seeing here. one foot is a half size bigger than other, so the custom sizing will help any other suggestions? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IPv6Freely 2092 Report post Posted November 13, 2015 my son is 11 and is currently in apx2. pretty stiff boot. Thinking of getting these for him. I like what I am seeing here. one foot is a half size bigger than other, so the custom sizing will help any other suggestions? Sounds good. Get your traces done and send them in! :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BRUINS_FAN_74 19 Report post Posted November 14, 2015 My feet are the same and getting VH has been the best choice I've ever made with skates! I don't see myself using any other skate from now on! my son is 11 and is currently in apx2. pretty stiff boot.Thinking of getting these for him. I like what I am seeing here.one foot is a half size bigger than other, so the custom sizing will helpany other suggestions? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mc88 160 Report post Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) Does anyone have a picture which was taken undersole of the new plastic toe cap like this?I want to make sure it before I will purchase for my new pair.I've been feeling not good at the gap of leather and boot's outsole. So I'm thinking that if the new toe cap will make similar condition for holders, I don't want to choose it or make a measure for it.My holder sits flush:Not sure if this is just for my pair, but I'm getting some liner tearing on both skates and in the same spot: Edited November 14, 2015 by mc88 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IPv6Freely 2092 Report post Posted November 14, 2015 That looks like the tongue plastic is rubbing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyers10 57 Report post Posted November 14, 2015 MC88, didn't you just get them? Maybe have a cobbler sew a wear patch on that area. Kinda like what Bauer has on the top line models. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mc88 160 Report post Posted November 14, 2015 MC88, didn't you just get them? Maybe have a cobbler sew a wear patch on that area. Kinda like what Bauer has on the top line models.Yeah, for about two-three months.I was thinking the same thing, unfortunately, nobody around here will touch skates. Seems like they may be going back to Canada... but not now, I need them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mimizk 114 Report post Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) My holder sits flush:Not sure if this is just for my pair, but I'm getting some liner tearing on both skates and in the same spot:Thank you mc88!Are the hinder 2 rivets which can't be seen in this photo sit on the same level as these 6 rivets? I'm thinking good if the toe cap cover enough surface for all of 8 rivets of the front.This is another story though, how was the thickness of the new plastic toe cap's side wall for your skating? Did you feel any inconvenient against normal toe cap?Then about your torn liner,But we often see similar conditions on other traditional boots, don't you? I thought this is not rare. And also perhaps it's hard if we want to solve this problem. Edited November 14, 2015 by Mimizk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mc88 160 Report post Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) Are the hinder 2 rivets which can't be seen in this photo sit on the same level as these 6 rivets? I'm thinking good if the toe cap cover enough surface for all of 8 rivets of the front.This is another story though, how was the thickness of the new plastic toe cap's side wall for your skating? Did you feel any inconvenient against normal toe cap?Love the new toe cap! Definitely more durable than my original uncoated toe cap:Then about your torn liner,But we often see similar conditions on other traditional boots, don't you? I thought this is not rare. And also perhaps it's hard if we want to solve this problem.Didn't happen on my old VHs. My guess is this newer wick liner is not nearly as durable as the old (or at the very least this fuzzy overlay material isn't as durable). Edited November 14, 2015 by mc88 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mimizk 114 Report post Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) This is my fear...Didn't happen on my old VHs. My guess is this newer wick liner is not nearly as durable as the old (or at the very least this fuzzy overlay material isn't as durable).For example, the surface of goalie's shin pads are made by leather. If it was coated by a kind of cloth as this, not leather...? Or probably you know why bike riders are wearing leather jackets.Leather is strong material for friction. So maybe it is a fact that tan clarino is better than the new black wick liner at this problem. Edited November 14, 2015 by Mimizk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mc88 160 Report post Posted November 14, 2015 This is my fear...Instep sits flat, outstep is a bit warped (I've never noticed nor felt it):InstepOutstep Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BRUINS_FAN_74 19 Report post Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) This is how mine sit. Even know everything is fine, I think with my next pair I could go down a size with the holders. http://imgur.com/yC669FB.jpg http://imgur.com/7zA8PTu.jpg Edited November 14, 2015 by BRUINS_FAN_74 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mimizk 114 Report post Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) Instep sits flat, outstep is a bit warped (I've never noticed nor felt it):InstepOutstepThis is how mine sit. Even know everything is fine, I think with my next pair I could go down a size with the holders.http://imgur.com/yC669FB.jpghttp://imgur.com/7zA8PTu.jpgThank you guys for giving these great photos!From a viewpoint to prevent scratch of the side wall with the ice, I was very interested in the new plastic toe cap. But also I've been feeling not good about similar gap of my VH's old style toe cap, so I wanted to make sure. Especially I've been using medial side shims to slide runner position artificially, so the condition of under sole is important for me than other members.Unfortunately, I've known that the new toe cap will make not good condition for me. I will decide final ordering after talking with Scott or Rob though, my mind is leaning into choosing the old style toe cap with plasti-dip coating which covering the same area of the new plastic toe cap. And no leather, no enamel cover (usually showing VH's logo). Edited November 14, 2015 by Mimizk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doozy8 6 Report post Posted November 14, 2015 MC88, In speaking with Rob this week regarding the order of my new VH skates, I was debating between the Clarino and wick liner and when I asked him which was more durable, here was his response (and my apologies if you knew this already)"the tan clarino is a more durable line. If you are skating bare foot, normally guys will go with the black sweat wicking liner. If you are a really heavy sweater, I would say go with the black liner. If you don't sweat excessively, than I would go with the tan liner."Not sure if this is just for my pair, but I'm getting some liner tearing on both skates and in the same spot: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AfftonDad 88 Report post Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) my son is 11 and is currently in apx2. pretty stiff boot.Thinking of getting these for him. I like what I am seeing here.one foot is a half size bigger than other, so the custom sizing will helpany other suggestions?One thing I might caution on... My son is 14 and just started wearing the same size as me (9.5 in Makos). For kicks I had him try to put my VHs on. He was unable to get past the indentation in the side that the skates have. These things are not easy to put on and unless you have a pretty determined kid, you might have a hard time getting him to persevere long enough to learn how to get them on. Edited November 15, 2015 by AfftonDad 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgp799 2 Report post Posted November 15, 2015 Dustin Byfuglian Hockey Fights Cancer game worm VH skateshttp://auctions.nhl.com/iSynApp/auctionDisplay.action?sid=1100803&auctionId=860503 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vinprun71 61 Report post Posted November 16, 2015 My holder sits flush:Not sure if this is just for my pair, but I'm getting some liner tearing on both skates and in the same spot:I have the same issue on my set of APX skates. I believe my shin guards have been the culprit with my rubbing. I don't see any wear on the tongues, but the shin guards have a little abuse on the rounded edges. If you have longer shins that you wear outside your tongues, especially a model that is a bit wide, this could be your issue as well. Take a peak at the shins for proof. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IPv6Freely 2092 Report post Posted November 16, 2015 Hey guys just wanted to mention I played last night after my foot/toe finally fully healed. Can confirm 100% that the issue was the insole bunching up into the toe box. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3795 Report post Posted November 16, 2015 Holy rivet crank... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
decoy 164 Report post Posted November 18, 2015 Chris Tierney Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flip12 712 Report post Posted November 18, 2015 Alex SteenWent back to Bauer already. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
decoy 164 Report post Posted November 18, 2015 Went back to Bauer already.Yep, used in one game only. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AfftonDad 88 Report post Posted November 18, 2015 Yep, used in one game only.I don't get that. Wouldn't you be able to figure out at practice whether or not you like them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flip12 712 Report post Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) I don't get that. Wouldn't you be able to figure out at practice whether or not you like them?I think I get it. Practice can be intense, but it's also always so known. Games are less so (maybe that's not really the case as much for a veteran like Steen, but that's beyond my ability/experience to imagine), and that degree of uncertainty requires more cognitive resources which makes the demand for the utmost automatic response/reaction all the more intense. If your equipment doesn't do what you expect it to do, it could much more readily show up in a game situation than in a practice or even a number of practices. I think quite a few guys are just so used to a Bauer-like boot that they are more relaxed and automatic performing in it, even if it might be less comfortable, less responsive, etc. Edited November 18, 2015 by flip12 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites