VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne

[asgoodasdead 74]

i used the secondary shims that came with my powerfeet to snug up my glove liners. really got my money's worth

[VegasHockey 1280]

12 hours ago, asgoodasdead said:

i used the secondary shims that came with my powerfeet to snug up my glove liners. really got my money's worth

I thought I was the only person who did that too. haha

[VegasHockey 1280]

Thoughts on stealth black look vs silver True/VH wing?

[VegasHockey 1280]

Had my first couple of ice times with the new True skates. While the skates are incredibly comfortable one thing I did notice almost immediately is the weight when compared to my FT1 and Mako II skates. I am wondering if the added shot blocker protection contributes significant weight. I was shocked that my True skates weight 265 grams more than my Mako II skates. That's a significant weight difference. Both skates have Step steel on them. 

[Sniper9 530]

Personally hate the blacked out true logo look. Looks cheap and makes the skate look like a Mickey mouse brand imo. I actually like the vh and or true silver logo. Clean and simple. 

As for the added shot blockers, it probably adds significant weight. Esp on top of a stock skate that already weighs a bit more than the high end big box brands. I think the step holders are a tad heavier than tuuks as well, but don't quote me on that. 

On my feet, I didn't notice the weight difference coming from my one100s.  In my hands I could easily tell the weight difference. 

[IPv6Freely 2093]

Definitely prefer with the silver logo.

[number_22 2]

So, had my first skate in my new True skates today (after baking them) and I gotta say WOW! People who said they are comfortable certainly didn't exaggerate, I never had the experience that a skate fitted perfectly from the get-go, these feel like slippers, no pain or sore spot at all.

The Step Black Steel blades with their higher profile take some getting used too and I have to say that the True skates aren't the lightest skates I ever had, but boy are they comfortable...

I definitely see why people love these skates so much. Concerning the overall build quality, yes, they aren't as perfect as you run off the mill Bauers or CCM, but heck they are handmade in Canada, rather than some sweatshop in China or Thailand and in some areas you see the manual labor that goes into these skates, so I don't really mind. I'm sure VH/True will work out those kinks with time.

[Larry54 243]

12 hours ago, Nicholas G said:

Had my first couple of ice times with the new True skates. While the skates are incredibly comfortable one thing I did notice almost immediately is the weight when compared to my FT1 and Mako II skates. I am wondering if the added shot blocker protection contributes significant weight. I was shocked that my True skates weight 265 grams more than my Mako II skates. That's a significant weight difference. Both skates have Step steel on them. 

Just to give an idea, with insoles removed from all the following skates, my old Bauer Flexlite 4.0 skate is 750g. My first VH skate that I got when they first came out is 730g. Both have fairly worn LS2 steel in a 263 holder. My newer VH skate which I got just before True entered the picture weighs 820g and I didn't order the optional shot blocker protection. It has Step steel in a 254 holder. I don't notice the extra weight that much, but I had heavier Graf Sidas insoles in the first two whereas I have the stock VH insole in the last skate.

P.S. As far as blacking out the logo, I lean toward leaving it. And I prefer white laces. But in a game situation, I don't ever notice what others are wearing anyway. My focus is elsewhere.

Edited March 5, 2018 by Larry54

[itslunchtime 17]

On 3/2/2018 at 7:39 PM, 215BroadStBullies610 said:

I'd go to Westside if you can pull it off. I plan on going there once I'm ready to get my own pair. One guy I play pickup hockey with got his there and had nothing but good things to say about his experience. Mind you there are multiple PH/GH within an hour's drive of us here the Philadelphia area. Better safe than sorry (within reason of course).

Do you know if there is a particular person I should try to schedule and appointment with? If I am going to take the 4hr bus ride might as well make sure I am getting the best.

[mojo122 535]

21 hours ago, Nicholas G said:

Thoughts on stealth black look vs silver True/VH wing?

The all black look seems stealthy.  But honestly, they're your skates, so I'd do what you like best.

[asgoodasdead 74]

21 hours ago, Nicholas G said:

Had my first couple of ice times with the new True skates. While the skates are incredibly comfortable one thing I did notice almost immediately is the weight when compared to my FT1 and Mako II skates. I am wondering if the added shot blocker protection contributes significant weight. I was shocked that my True skates weight 265 grams more than my Mako II skates. That's a significant weight difference. Both skates have Step steel on them. 

i think the website says the shotblockers add 40grams per skate

Edited March 6, 2018 by asgoodasdead

[Sk8Stk 39]

22 hours ago, itslunchtime said:

Do you know if there is a particular person I should try to schedule and appointment with? If I am going to take the 4hr bus ride might as well make sure I am getting the best.

Hi, 

 

Please reach out to Tyson. He is our Custom Skate Specialist and has handled all True/VH fittings dating back to 2015. Thanks!

[VegasHockey 1280]

4 hours ago, Sk8Stk said:

Hi, 

 

Please reach out to Tyson. He is our Custom Skate Specialist and has handled all True/VH fittings dating back to 2015. Thanks!

He is awesome! 

[VegasHockey 1280]

On 3/5/2018 at 5:47 PM, asgoodasdead said:

i think the website says the shotblockers add 40grams per skate

Yeah,I checked with true and they said depending on the skate size 40-50 grams per skate. 

[VegasHockey 1280]

On 3/5/2018 at 5:02 PM, mojo122 said:

The all black look seems stealthy.  But honestly, they're your skates, so I'd do what you like best.

I'll probably mess around with other colors too. I found a way to do it in a transparent black which gives it a black chrome look. Think I am gonna rock that for a bit. 

[VegasHockey 1280]

On 3/4/2018 at 7:57 PM, Nicholas G said:

Had my first couple of ice times with the new True skates. While the skates are incredibly comfortable one thing I did notice almost immediately is the weight when compared to my FT1 and Mako II skates. I am wondering if the added shot blocker protection contributes significant weight. I was shocked that my True skates weight 265 grams more than my Mako II skates. That's a significant weight difference. Both skates have Step steel on them. 

I made a few changes to the skates and things seem better the last couple times on the ice.

I kept the red insole and added Bauer SpeedPlates. I found this helped dramatically since I have very high arches. The stock footbeds didn't give me enough support.

I also cut come some thick gripper blanket and placed it on the heel of the red insole to give a slight lift. On all of my previous skates, I have used a 3/16" lift so I felt a little flat even though I was told the boot and VH/Step holders are designed with a forward pitch. 

I then baked them again, for the third time. This time I used an elastic wrap bandage and ratchet clamps to really get the heel, ankles, and forefoot dialed in perfectly. Eliminating every single area of negative space. I also made an adjustment to the cuff so I could get my foot in the skates which previously was a struggle. 

So far, the first time with them I was not thrilled. The second time I found them to be good, but not better than my FT1 skates. The third time I found them to be equal to my FT1 with some minor nuances. This will be my fourth time on the ice with them and I hope I have them dialed in a bit now. 

[VegasHockey 1280]

4 hours ago, Nicholas G said:

I made a few changes to the skates and things seem better the last couple times on the ice.

I kept the red insole and added Bauer SpeedPlates. I found this helped dramatically since I have very high arches. The stock footbeds didn't give me enough support.

I also cut come some thick gripper blanket and placed it on the heel of the red insole to give a slight lift. On all of my previous skates, I have used a 3/16" lift so I felt a little flat even though I was told the boot and VH/Step holders are designed with a forward pitch. 

I then baked them again, for the third time. This time I used an elastic wrap bandage and ratchet clamps to really get the heel, ankles, and forefoot dialed in perfectly. Eliminating every single area of negative space. I also made an adjustment to the cuff so I could get my foot in the skates which previously was a struggle. 

So far, the first time with them I was not thrilled. The second time I found them to be good, but not better than my FT1 skates. The third time I found them to be equal to my FT1 with some minor nuances. This will be my fourth time on the ice with them and I hope I have them dialed in a bit now. 

Happy to report that skates felt absolutely fantastic tonight. I am still adjusting to the weight difference but the skates overall have amazing fit and feel. I also like how rigid the VH/Step holders are and am very glad I went with them and not LS Edge holders. I don't till need to make some slight adjustments to the pitch but I think I am very close to having them the way I want them. As others have said, it's strange having skate that fit and don't hurt. I am so used to my skates hurting that it's still weird to me that I am not uncomfortable from the time I strap them on to the time I take them off. 

[Sniper9 530]

It could also be the fact that every time you step on the ice with them you're getting more used to them, rather than them being more dialed in. They fit different than any other skate out there. Even with the same holders and profile, pitch etc as your old skates, the boot itself will require an adjustment period for you to get used to. At least it did for me. But I agree. I preferred the step holder setup over the ls edge. But right now the ls2 has been the best for me. In the future, if I were to get a second pair, I'd probably just stick with the step holder again and not be so picky about aesthetics. 

Edited March 7, 2018 by Sniper9

[itslunchtime 17]

15 hours ago, Nicholas G said:

Happy to report that skates felt absolutely fantastic tonight. I am still adjusting to the weight difference but the skates overall have amazing fit and feel. I also like how rigid the VH/Step holders are and am very glad I went with them and not LS Edge holders. I don't till need to make some slight adjustments to the pitch but I think I am very close to having them the way I want them. As others have said, it's strange having skate that fit and don't hurt. I am so used to my skates hurting that it's still weird to me that I am not uncomfortable from the time I strap them on to the time I take them off. 

How is the stick pitch compared to say a Bauer Supreme ? Wanting to get mine a tad more neutral - might ask to order them with a small shim up front preinstalled

[Sniper9 530]

3 hours ago, itslunchtime said:

How is the stick pitch compared to say a Bauer Supreme ? Wanting to get mine a tad more neutral - might ask to order them with a small shim up front preinstalled

Or profile the steel

[VegasHockey 1280]

3 hours ago, itslunchtime said:

How is the stick pitch compared to say a Bauer Supreme ? Wanting to get mine a tad more neutral - might ask to order them with a small shim up front preinstalled

I would leave it as is and try it out. Give it some time and if you cannot adjust then profile the steel as mentioned. 

[nova hands 3]

On 3/7/2018 at 4:20 PM, itslunchtime said:

How is the stick pitch compared to say a Bauer Supreme ? Wanting to get mine a tad more neutral - might ask to order them with a small shim up front preinstalled

Not sure if my experience will help, but here goes...

 

Skated in my new VH skates for the first time last night.  They have Tuuk Edge holders with LS2 steel.

I'm coming from Bauer NXG's that have been very good to me.

My immediate impression with the new VH was that I was flat footed, maybe even a tad back on my heels, when compared to my Supremes.  Keep in mind that I opted not to get the new steel profiled for my first skate.  I only had a 1/2" hollow put on for now as I wanted to see how the skates felt overall without a particular profile.  I'm not certain what radius the steel had out of the package.  Felt like a lot of blade on the ice, though.  Had to be at least 9", maybe more.  Had these skates been setup with the Step holders, it might be a different story as far as pitch is concerned.  No idea, though.

I plan to take them into my local shop today for a Quad 1 profile and see how they feel after that.

It's so hard changing skates.  I had my NXG's for 5 years and the boots were still in great shape.  20 minutes into the skate, I so badly just wanted to put my old skates back on.  But I stuck with the VH, made some adjustments to the tongues, and found myself really enjoying them towards the end of my 1.5 hours on the ice.  I think once I have the profile dialed in, I'll be golden.

[Healthyscratch 11]

What’s the turn around time after getting scanned and ordering?

[shoot_the_goalie 281]

1 hour ago, Healthyscratch said:

What’s the turn around time after getting scanned and ordering?

I went through Pure Hockey.  They told me 3-4 weeks to get the skates after scanning.  Took 2 weeks in reality.  Pure told me that True turned the skates around in about 5 business days.  The rest of the time was waiting for communication/scan confirmation and shipping/delivery.  I was very impressed.  I'm on the east coast, so I would imagine it could even be a faster turnaround if you're closer to Winnipeg.

Edited March 10, 2018 by shoot_the_goalie

[number_22 2]

Mine also took around two weeks from scanning to delivery.