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  1. Yesterday
  2. iceman8310
    what are the Graf Ultra C Hockey Skates? anyone hear of these? I don't see them on the graf website
  3. Last week
  4. SolarWind
    Having read more on this and having looked at the skates in person it definitely doesn’t look like Vizion is the new Tacks. It’s new 100k. they are less stiff than tacks, and have less padding. McKinnon switched from 100k to Vizion. The toe cup is padded, overall skates feel very nice! $1500 CDN is a lot of money for the retail skate. and the shim is 6mm - massive!
  5. flip12
    I actually prefer extra pitch. I had Catalyst 7s for a while. It helped with the +1 on the Ellipse II I had put on them, but they never really felt right for me. In the end my back was killing me when I wore them, so I sold them. Switching to my X:60s, the back pain went away immediately. I had MLX that I wore until they almost fell apart. The Catalysts were just too puffy and distant from the shell in comparison for me.
  6. SolarWind
    Makes two of us. I had customs Bauer supreme and CCM 100k before switching to customs Trues, and the difference I find between these is that when the shape of the boot actually contours to the shape of the foot then there are no pressure points anywhere and foam isn’t even needed. With CCM and Bauer using standard last boots Vizion better to be super thermo-formable. Looks like they are starting to trickle down into stores, so got to check them out. The shim is worrisome tho, totally changes the pitch of the skate from neutral to extreme!
  7. flip12
    My favorite skates are the ones with the least padding. I like feeling close to the shell. I'm intrigued by the Vizion's description, which sounds a lot like a return to the ONE90 minimal negative space concept.
  8. vaporboy12
    Bauer prostock's are epoxied in to the shaft just have to cut and deal with a bit extra weight
  9. stick9
    Aycane Powerlight. Thick were you want, thin where you need. Not a bad try at $35 either.
  10. stick9
    Hush now, I love those giant pillows. Not as much as the old memory foam doughnuts in the old 70Ks, but close. Coming from the 100k which had much less padding, the XF Pros were a dream. The level of comfort was light years ahead.
  11. Earlier
  12. Miller55
    Crazy. I know Coast2Coast has taken over development of the Fizix frames for a couple years now and they are slowly chipping away at that. I honestly didn't realize that Keith was in his 80s. He was tremendously dedicated to this project and roller hockey in general.
  13. Westside
    Man, first Per from Marsblade and now Keith from Sprung. Hope both companies can continue forward for both of their legacies to live on
  14. Miller55
    https://www.instagram.com/p/DXuLA4emxXg/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link RIP Keith Sad loss of a great guy with an amazing passion
  15. raganblink
    Vizion is the top-end Tacks skate replacing the XF Pro XR is the 2nd PP replacing XF XR90 = XF90 etc
  16. start_today
    I really miss NHL players having gloves that adhered to a general color scheme, but the actual execution between different brands, say Bauer and Eagle, might be a little different with the exact design. It added a little bit of color and spice. Everything is so hyper standardized now.
  17. start_today
    Other people have said it, and this is my answer to way too many stick questions, but buy a p88 curve from prostockhockeysticks.com And, if you want to experiment with curves similar to a p88, he has an insane number of curve options at retail pricing. (But, speaking as someone who keeps chasing the dream of a curve “like a p88 but better,” just buy a p88.) If you're not familiar, read through the thread on them on here. Their quality is as good as the big boys’ sticks who cost $300 plus. It’s not some dude selling cheap temu sticks out of his garage. They are a legit brand (with a terrible name) and the owner has done his research and development to make these sticks. A small handful of guys in the NHL use them, including Ovechkin.
  18. SolarWind
    Since Vizion is marketed as an "innovation line' that prototypes features before they become mainstream (ie original Vision stick had the ultra low kick which went to Trigger), I thought this version of Vision skate is re-introducing Ribcore line back, but I might be wrong. Definitely a very odd decision to mess up a nice one-piece boot with a giant plastic shim! At least it's on the outside now so easier to remove. Which is what some NHLers have clearly done. And looks like some kept the shim but made is significantly smaller - 3 mm maybe? The shim on the inside for FT8 completely changed how the boot fits also. Hopefully Vizion also drastically reduces the amount of foam in the boot since the current line of skates (FT8 and XF) has gone to an extreme when it comes to putting giant pillows inside the boot lol
  19. Hills
    I still find it wild that after decades of "you need carbon and you need to remove the outsole for best energy transfer" and then now they are adding plastic shims stock into a skate.
  20. malcb33
    My understanding is that Vizion isn't a line, but more of a special project that can change year to year. It highlights new advancements, but is not necessarily a particular product every year.
  21. Cosmic
    Yea I figured you didn't see it all the way through/ all good. I emailed them with the email on the site, through the contact us, everything. I am guessing they went out of business.
  22. flip12
    PRO29 is neutral faced compared to the wedgy P28. Look for more loft in whatever you get. Hossa could work. Other than the toe shape that is kind of a blend of P28 and PRO29: loftier, especially from the mid to the toe. PRO97 would probably be pretty weird. It's supposed to be considerably lower than the others you mentioned. I haven't seen one in person to confirm though.
  23. flip12
    ProStockHockeySticks is a good option if you don't want to switch from the pattern you know.
  24. MyBoxersSayJoe
    Bought a bundle of Johnny Gaudreau 55 and 65 flex prostocks years ago, I'm still using them. Bauer P14's aren't too far off from P88, but I'm not sure if those are still around or not.
  25. Westside
    Pro stock hockey had a bunch of P88 curves recently (I bought two QR6 pros) and of course pro stock hockey sticks also had them in various kickpoints. Hockey stick man had a few at higher flex points recently. whenever I find a stick I like in specs I prefer I’ll buy 2-4 to have as they’re not as easy to find anymore
  26. MyBoxersSayJoe started following P88 to........ ?
  27. MyBoxersSayJoe
    Try the pattern database. Warrior W88 may be more available. Or True MC.
  28. noupf
    P88 user here, been using this curve for 20+ years ( mainly Bauer and CCM sticks ). I like buying pro stocks, but it seems that P88 is becoming harder and harder to find. Using the google machine, it looks like P92/29 is the closest thing to a P88, but has a more open face. Is that correct and is it a drastic difference? I'm just a beer league defenseman, but I do shoot A LOT from far out and I've always enjoyed how the P88 kept my shots down with its relatively neutral face. Thoughts and opinions on those who have switched or use P92/29 please.... 🙂
  29. noupf
    So is the Vizion line of skates supposed to eliminate one of the existing lines ( Tacks / Jetspeed ) or is this a reintroduction of a third line of skates? I'm still rocking my Ribcor 100k Pro's that i like so much.
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