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I was on Mission's. Last pair was from circa 2001. Couldn't tell you which ones, but they had the plastic hooks on the outside for heel lock. I used to ratchet down the heel lock part and then skip every eyelet after except the top, which I made extra tight.
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The boot flex definitely has some effect on this equation, though I was stumped just when I thought I was getting it. I had some VSi's converted to ice, on VH/Step holders, thinking they'd be as amazing on ice as they were on their original 72/80 HIlo. They were not. They felt comfy, but pretty much as frustrating as any other ice hockey skate I've tried, with a few exceptions. I think that was the moment that I decided to actually start trying out profiles, which I had been thinking about doing for a long time. My favorite boots do feature a similar degree of forward flex and lateral stability as the Proto Vs did though: Vapor 8, Vapor 10, Mega Air 90, 703, and MLX with the right tongue. With the right boot, like the Vapor 10, even a profile on the opposite end of the spectrum feels quite nice. I can only imagine how Vapor 10 on my ideal profile would feel, once I find it.
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This is my guess too. You only relaunch the TPS brand to appeal to a bunch of middle aged folk, and you’re doing it way more on nostalgia than tech.
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I have a feeling the TPS brand is going to essentially be a branded blackout sticks. But that's just a hunch. Don't think they'll offer anything that will get me to stray from a CCM or bauer on clearance or gepettos pshs
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Don't mind me, I may add more stupidity.... I had a block of years in my 20's where I stopped playing/paying attention to hockey and gear, and last I remember TPS was a Louisville product so I'm confused lol. Is Louisville not a company anymore? Did SherWood buy Louisville? I googled and see Louisville still makes baseball/softball stuff with the TPS name, so I'm really lost lol Whenever I see "TPS" I assumed it was a Louisville product. Ok old man backing away now lol
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Thanks for posting the info,the XF's sound like a perfect upgrade for me from the 100k's, I need a slightly tighter heel & a touch more instep so they will be my next pair of skates in a 9R.
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Similar situation for me on rollerblades, actually. The only problem is those boots could actually flex! One of the pleasant surprises of going from Quad to 10' was that I found I didn't need to tie my laces as tight. Having so much toe shaved down in the case of the Quad was forcing me to tie my laces tighter than what was optimal, for whatever reason.
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I'm not the best to comment because I'm drifting toward the long end of the profile spectrum. I think the closer I get to what my skating mechanics were developed on, the more natural I feel on the ice. I really honed my skating for hours in my apartment building's parking lot on '96 or '97 Mission Proto Vs on a 4 x 72mm chassis. The more my blades mimic the pitch and flat radius of those rollerblades, the more natural I feel on the ice. I get why some skaters would feel locked on rails in a 10' radius, but my mechanics seem to center around something closer to 20' +2. 13' and Ellipse II, both at +1 pitch, feel perfectly short and quick to me. 13' neutral felt a little rail like, but as soon as I had it redone with +1 pitch I never felt stuck on the ice again. It seems like the shorter front sections can mimic the effect of pitch if you don't actually want to mess with pitch. My favorite ice setup so far has been Cobra's stock 11' (now I think they're doing 10') on what felt like at least +2, compared to the +1s I have at the moment.
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I went from a 100k Pro sz 6 tapered to an XF Pro in the same fit. Overall the fit is very close with a few exceptions. The XF's heel is narrower than the 100k. There is more depth around the insteep (CCM says this was intentional to fit more players). The toe cap has less negative space. All that said, I'd try both. Dropping to a tapered might be too extreme. Fwiw, the it's way nicer than the 100k. Definitely an upgrade.
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pgeorgan replied to Hockeydad97's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
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Paluce replied to Hockeydad97's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
No, not close at all. The profile is continuously variable from the glide surface. That is 16 foot slowly tapers down as you move along the length of a blade to the toe. That is more like an ellipse than anything else. But with a shorter Glide surface. It is the max edge, 981 and an Omni Quad morphed together in CAD. That is what the quad hybrid is. But also designed for each size blade. Smaller sizes. Have shorter glide surfaces. Longer blades have longer glide surfaces. -
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pgeorgan replied to Hockeydad97's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
I navigated over to this site. Correct me if I'm wrong, the 981/Quad Hybrid appears to be a modified old school Hudson? -
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I'm thinking of trying a 9.5/10.5 but am nervous I'll lose a lot of the agility I have with a 10'. Wondering what your opinion was of the two, since it appears you've tried them both. Or anyone else for that matter. Some other folks have said that it feels like a Quad 0.5, but that's 8-10-12-14, so not really sure how those could be at all similar. In my experience, the Quad 0.5 would just be another one of those "skates on rails" profiles, which I'm not going back to. I've also heard good things about the Elite SCS 1. The SCS 1 in standard size is 6-17-13-4, which just trying to wrap my head around sounds pretty wild. They also don't tell you how much of each section is profiled to which radius.
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The GOAT stick for me.. TPS Response R10. I don't think I had a stick that insanely flexed like that ever again. Forgive my stupidity here, but how does this work as a business aspect? TPS was bought by Sherwood, judging by these pictures - it looked like Sherwood is not part of this anymore (or are they?). Wouldn't they have to approve of something like this?
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Instructions in the box said 6-8 minutes at 83-92C° (180-200f°).. I baked them for 8 minutes at 90°C, but still could not get them wide enough. The conditions for returning skates are a little more restrictive in europe, so i didn’t want to risk not being able to return them. Rebaked my punched Vapor 3X for 6 mins at 90°C yesterday and did the shrink wrap thing really hard on them.. I did actually get even better heel lock and fit around the heel and ankle. Hopefully the heel sunk a little more into the heel cup, which would give me some clearence up front where the toe cap meets the boot.
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Definitely agree with this. 5-7 minutes at 175 is not enough. 200 for 5-7 or 175 for 8-10 is the way to go
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Fwiw, the instructions I think call for 5-7 mins baking time? In reality it should be like 7-10. When I baked it cat pros which are the same as the 9s shell, it was barely moldable after 7 mins.
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If I recall correctly, the XL steel is standard steel with a longer profile. If correct that would mean any steel can be converted to XL steel. Regardless. You should be able to get 254 to feel like 263 by simply profiling your current steel.
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I baked them acording the instructions that came in the box. The heel and ankle molded nicely, but the forefoot would not. So, i dont know.. I returned them while i still could! I can still use my Vapor 3X skates, but i need some extra silicone pads between the big toe joints. Vapor Fit3, with old Vapor EE forefoot and Old toe cap would be perfect.
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They may not be wide enough for your feet but it doesn't mean they aren't for wide feet. Just depends HOW wide you need them. Depending how long you baked them it also could've not been hot enough. And you would t be punching the forefoot, to increase volume/width you'd stretch them which is a different process, but you'd need to leave it at the shop for a couple days at least to do it properly.
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I had to return the Cats.. They are not for wide feet even tough the size was 7.5 wide.. Even after baking they squeeze my forefoot way to much. Not even punching the entire forefoot out would be able to fix the width issue. Back to tweeking my 3X instead..
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VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
sturdy22 replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
I have used a kit from Amazon to repair a significantly cracked True boot. The kit (True Composites) comes with a sheet of composite fabric a bottle of epoxy resin and a bottle of hardener. I did the repair last year and the boot has held up perfectly. You would only need to mix a little of the resin and hardener to cover the area of concern. https://a.co/d/d0Bzp0j -
VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne
nicktsigos replied to dsjunior1388's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
That’s exactly what they said. Haha. Either way I’ll just fill it myself because it’s driving me nuts. Is there a specific epoxy I should use? Besides that skates feel pretty good, a little fatigue in my feet after about an hour on the ice but I think it’s the pitch of the holders. -
Anyone know where I can buy this steel? I see it very sparingly on the internet. Looking for size 254 edge steel. Curious if this could offset putting a larger holder on my skates