DarkStar50

You are right.....the stock X72's are great gloves. But myself and DarkStar can attest.....the custom's in Tufftek are WELL beyond the Portofino X72's. I totally agree. The x72 I tried on was the Tufftek with the MSH2. It was difficult for me to not purchase them right then and there. They are next level, for sure. Had I not been purchasing custom One95s at the time (and already own three pairs of gloves) they would have followed me home. . . Even though I own a ridiculous number of gloves, I am waiting for my stock order of Eagle PPFs to come in. Then I might just decide whether or not to go for custom Eagles with Tufftek. Spreedizzle's gloves were just too nice. I should have kept them!! Hey, Christmas is right around the corner and my birthday is coming up. Not that I need a reason............

5hole & aliebe, Check your pm's.

Was about 10 weeks in total if I remember correctly. Long enough for me to build excessive anxiety over their arrival. ;) Also....Just got back from game #1 in the new gloves......and right out of the box I have to say that they are the best feeling gloves that I have ever owned. They feel broken in straight out, no binding, no stiffness, just butter. I think that they are even lighter than my Carbon custom MIA MB-33's without plastic inserts. Simply unreal. No other glove company will ever get any of my business from here forward. B) Even I was nervous about delivery after placing the order! When they arrived at the shop last week, though, I knew Spry would love these puppies. They are so comfortable brand new. Great job by Eagle!

Jeez, sounds like parents whining at a house league game. "The coach didn't give David enough ice time." This is the NHL, not Saturday morning Atoms House League.

Thanks for the input. Since you are in the LA area and know first-hand how Murray did what he did, I believe you. The numbers tell one story(the records of Murray, Frolov, and Cami) while the methods used are the true basis of what happened. I appreciate hearing from someone close to the way it played out. Good job!! Chadd, BS on me! :lol:

First or second year players scoring 30+ in today's NHL are named Crosby or Ovechkin. Frolov and Cami are not in that class, obviously. Murray did develop both players into 30 goal scorers by their fourth year in the league, whether or not he stood behind the bench when they did it. Camilleri earned his playing minutes and has the points now to prove it. Just what is your beef with Murray? He has turned the Blues around 100% from where they were a year ago. I wouldn't consider him some retread coach. He basically started with the worst group of players a year ago when he replaced Kitchen. Search that thread from early last season here when the Blues were dog crap. A year ago David was riding the Iron Lung on all-night bus rides and having a post game Happy Meal at MickeyDs. The NHL is full of kids who got rushed into situations they couldn't handle because the team, the coach, and management forced them to. Lucky for David the team is watching out for him. Its only December in his first NHL season. Try thinking big picture, long term planning. He is still a boy among men.

Chadd, I'm calling BS on you. Do the research: Andy Murray put the Kings in the playoffs his first three years with totally veteran teams. The Kings had no prospects to play during 99-00,00-01, and the 01-02 seasons when the Kings were in the playoffs. In 02-03, two 20 year old players were brought up to the Kings: Alexander Frolov and Mike Camalleri. Frolov played 79 games that year while Camalleri had played three seasons at U/Michigan. Camalleri was learning the pro game and still given the learning curve and time to develop his game. Here are the stats: 02-03 Frolov-79gp, 14g-17a 31 pts Camalleri-28 gp, 5g-3a 8 pts 03-04 Frolov-77gp, 24g-24a 48 pts Camalleri-31gp, 9g-6a 15 pts 05-06 Frolov- 69gp, 21g-33a 54 pts Camalleri-80gp, 26g-29a 55 pts 06-07 Frolov-82gp, 35g-36a 71 pts Camalleri-81gp, 34g-46a 80 pts Frolov's salary this year is $2.9mil while Camalleri went to arbitration and is being paid $3.35mil. Coach Murray has a lot to do with building the foundation of these two players. I'll bet David would be satisfied to be in either of those two player's situations about 3-4 years from now, if this is how Murray gets David's NHL career started.

At the end of the day, Coach Murray knows more about coaching and developing hockey players than anyone of us here does. Just a reminder, he gets paid for it. NHL Network had a behind the scenes look at the Blues 2007 Draft day and preparation for the draft. It was wild to see the work before the draft that they do with testing players for body fat, muscle and bone structure, projection of player's body with 3-4 years and more. Its just more credit to David that he was their third player chosen in the first round. Think of where he was two years ago, where he is now, and simply how much farther he has to go to become a complete NHL player. It seems to me he is in the right organization for a player like David. Ease off the throttle, there is a long way to go.

NBH has corrected the sizing length issue of the ONE90 skate with the new ONE95. The ONE95 will match true to previous NBH sizing. During the skate seminar at the dealer meeting in October, they had a size 7 Vapor XXXX and a size 7 ONE95 boot sawed in half. The two halves of each model matched up perfectly together from the heel to the toe box to show how the sizes were now exactly the same between Vapor and Supreme. BTW, for the shop guys, its always a learning tool to saw a boot in half and study the guts of the boot to see how its layered up in manufacturing. We recently cut a 7000 in half!

This kind of stuff has been going on since the NHL started. Every rookie goes through it. Wait until he has to pick up the check for the rookie dinner. He better have a SS by then because he will need a credit card to help pick up that tab.

The Vapor XXX Lite is still available on re-order through 3/08 as long as product is in stock. If you are looking for a particular Vapor XXX Lite don't wait too long since once they are out-of-stock from NBH, that will be the end of production.

My order is scheduled to be shipped October 18. This is for First Line Dealers.

Just tried the black stripe down low on my Easton Synergy SE. Didn't help me a bit but I'm not surprised. My game needs a lot of work. Keep moving those hands DP. I am glad JD has you in his system soon. Working hard to get my fill, Everybody wants a thrill Payin anything to roll the dice, Just one more time Some will win, some will lose Some were born to sing the blues Oh, the movie never ends It goes on and on and on and on Don't stop believin' Hold on to the feelin' Journey

Chere was hunted the entire game.

hap, nice uni's but you need a logo on that jersey!

Never got it back. Sorry. Anything to write home about? Not really, its just t-shirts and hats. JMHO............

Judging by comments in the other thread about online hockey buying, there seems to be about just as many success or failure stories with online buying as with shopping at your LHS. If you run a crappy LHS or a crappy online site, you are still crappy.

Hockey retailer trade association: the roster would change every month. Plus, most shops with their barely literate kids wouldn't bother to join. Not all, but most.

hey Rook, Forgot your bucket and your nut hutt!

There are companies that come to our rink all winter and digitally shoot game pix. Then they set up the pix on computers in the lobby to sell same day. They take great pictures but charge $$$$.

I thought the thumb on all the Warrior glove samples I tried on was a problem. It just wasn't comfortable and did not flex properly. could anybody who has used the Warrior gloves this season comment?

Some hockey companies will sell product within a category to dealers at little to no profit to gain market share on a specific price point. Then within the same category they will over price the product of a different price point to regain lost profit. They have gained market share and exposure witin the category to strengthen the brand name. They are killing the competition within the category.

Then if there are labor costs and the cost of the machinery, it really doesn't cost $8 to make a Synergy, does it? Add in the costs of R & D and it still adds up to more than $8. Could you detail your source of information for this cost per Synergy? I know a few people interested to find out.

I was at the other pro shop in my area. His Warrior stock for this time of year was still pretty deep. The pro shop in the rink I play at also said his Warriors didn't sell through half as well as he expected. I still see more players with Easton and NikeBauer OPS than Warrior, no matter how limited Warrior distribution is. 1 out of every 20 players might have a Warrior. We are having a Bantam AAA Minor tourney this week-end with 16 teams from around the US in the building. These players from Texas, Chicago, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Philly, Westchester, and NJ did not have very many, if any, Warrior OPS with them.

Well, that was nice of them.