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Lot of roller pickup on a handball court near me. Lot of buying gear and selling old gear. Got rid of a ton of old roller skates at the beginning of the shut down. Nice to clear up some space. We're strongly considering moving soon, so I looked into leagues and rinks where we're planning to move

That's what it looks like, which is pretty crazy, because that would mean that True's top of the line retail skate, if it is really comparable to the other big brands spec-wise and performance-wise, will come in at almost $400 cheaper than top of the line Bauer and CCM. I'm really interested to find out if the TF9 is actually on par with the other top of the line skates. I always wanted to try a pair of true but could never justify it as I fit retail Supremes pretty decent. But at that price it's a lot more appealing.

Seconded. It sticks way out away from your face. I had no real fogging issues and I do like that the visor can be swapped out. The issue I had is that my face is fairly long and the concept hybrid fit much better for me. In the end I think I prefer my true vision 7500 cage because I wear glasses and I just find it to be better visibility. Not sure why, but it works for me

No idea. Boots look way better than the code line, but i still don't get why they didn't put out a carbon boot or even a comp outsole. They don't look like they'll hold up any better than the code line.

Is there a difference between asphalt and asphalt pro? Looks like it's just a different graphic. 89a seems very hard. I have a set on sprungs and without the extra grip that the chassis gives I don't think they would grip well on a fixed chassis.

I never saw that number anywhere. Not sure where you did but it's good to know. Seems like those are the hardest wheels on the market. Can you post where you saw that number please. Edit: I do vaguely remember seeing 85a for a revision wheel. Don't recall details

I'm wondering about the optimization of the R1s for roller play, specifically regarding if they will help relieve the stress of play on the legs and knees. I know the concept is very different from sprungs, but when I play on sprungs they mitigate a significant amount of fatigue in my legs. I didn't notice until I played two games on sprungs and then played a very light game of pickup in an old pair of hilos. An hour on hi los had my legs more beat the next day than playing 3 hours straight of intense 4 on 4 on sprungs. (I had plenty of rest in between, so that's not a factor). I'm wondering if the flow motion will have a similar effect, where it helps relieve some if the stress and fatigue in the legs. I know that the O1 is meant to work the legs more, so I'm hoping that's not the case with the R1. Any feedback?

Not sure how you figure 89a but I use a set of no name 89a wheels for outdoor and I have no issues. I weigh slightly less than 200lbs and I skate hard. If you're an experienced skater I don't think it will be an issue

So, just following up on this conversion. Ended up getting two pairs of sprungs from sideline swap. My old amp fly boots did not fit as well as I remembered. I ended up picking up a pair of supreme 2s pros and 1s and had JR convert them. Would have like to try the conversion but with this covid and all my kids home from school I didn't have time or energy. I'm glad I had it professionally done though. My thoughts on these sprungs are that they are amazing! They are so responsive it is incredible. I've been playing pickup and a lot of the guys are half my age and I'm able to shake these guys easily. Another thought is that besides being insanely quick and agile, they are fast as heck. I tried the all-80 hum'er setup years ago on a pair of code tabu tours and I hated them. I was so used to the pitch of the 72/80 Hi-Lo that I felt completely flat on the hum'ers. They felt like I just couldn't get to my toes to dig and push off of. I was a bit concerned that the sprungs would have this issue but it is the exact opposite. I feel like I get right to my toes and they are so responsive and powerful. It's amazing to have such maneuverability and also have such breakaway speed. These things fly, which is the upside of all 80s. On the downside, it seems like the sprungs are particularly abusive to wheels. I've gone through a pair of 83a wheels in about 8-10 hours of play on concrete (2 weeks). I ordered a set of 89a wheels (I weigh about 195lbs) and we'll see how they do. The back wheel got destroyed. Regarding durability, only time will tell. Regarding the boots, I'll just say that they are stiff. They are probably way too stiff for this level of play and especially since I didn't get to bake them yet, the fit is not dialed in perfectly. It seems that skates are not really meant to be broken in the old school way anymore, because these are rough. They will definitely be comfy after a bake though. Thanks to all the guys who took the time to help me figure all this out.

I think everyone playing with fogged up full bubbles is probably more dangerous than this virus, not to mention it's going to create even more contact between players. also, in China when they opened schools back up the kids played sports with masks and some actually died from it. Apparently the mask was inhibiting o2 for some kids to the point of fainting and a few kids died. I think that's more dangerous for young, healthy folks than this virus. I think a simple test before the season and then tell people not to come if they have symptoms and that's that. Anyone who feels like it might be dangerous can always opt out for a season and see how things go. Personally, I had covid in March and I'd say that it wasn't pleasant but I've had worse flu illnesses in past years. I got the flu last year and it knocked me out harder than this. People have to make their own decisions ultimately

I'm a big fan of the verbero aeropuck. I still have about a dozen of them. Used to use them for drop in or pickup games. Lot of guys wanted to use ids or rocket pucks, but once they used the verbero everyone wanted to keep using it. I don't use them outdoors though because the little nubs get shredded. Pro pucks are also good, with flatter pads.

I'd like a more in depth explanation of the flow motion tech in the r1 compared to o1. In layman's terms obviously. I get the basic idea, but I'd like to understand what you mean by "optimized for game play." Sounds nice, but what exactly is different and what exactly is used to determine optimized? Also, I'm assuming these take floating spacers?

Just got these back from JR. 2s pros are awesome. I only had one full set of floating spacers lying around, so I set up the 2s pros. I just threw some wheels on the 1s for the picture. They feel nice, haven't really had a chance to put them to the test, but they feel great and they are definitely mounted perfectly. Have another pair of 1s waiting for the marsblades r1 to arrive.

I agree. I'd go for a vapor boot and convert to roller if you're up for the bit of extra work. Otherwise, a pair of missions from the past few models in 6.5 should be fine. Older mission, pre 2010, just do your shoe size and E width. Look on sideline

In my experience, Labeda asphalt are the best. If you got a month plus out of those that's pretty good. I weigh about 200lbs and I'm happy to get a month out of outdoor wheels. I have tricksters coming too, and they better be good because they're double the price of everything else

Never tried the o1s. After playing roller hockey through the late 90s and through the 2000s I got pretty burnt out on gimmicky stuff and just took the "it ain't broke, don't fix it" route for a while. Recently got back into roller, and I decided to give some of techy stuff a try. Got pair of sprungs which are being mounted now and I ordered these R-1s to try them as well. I'm excited to see if the r1s are really as good as they look. Same with the sprungs. I'm more of a shifty quick player at opposed to straight speed, so these are both marketed for my style of play. Definitely itching to test these out

Just pre-ordered the R-1s. I wish there were more info about them, but I figured I'd rather try them at 140 than at 200. Imy interested to see what the new tech is like these days. Seen a lot of crazy stuff in roller hockey, from the tuuk rocker to the v form to the tridi, so I'm game for giving this a shot. That said, I wish marsblades would do some more promotional videos about the r1

The foot cramps are probably the result of the skates being too wide for you and then compensating by cranking down the laces too hard. Either that or the arch is too high. Old missions had a really high arch, if you have flatter feet that could do it, otherwise it's the lacing. Also ten-twenty years wiser, I had no business in those old missions and my life changed when I got my first pair of tours. I still use 02 type ms because when I got back into it that's just what I had in the house, but I really need to bake and punch a couple spots. It's crazy to think back about the whole craze of buying missions and then I think about how many years I played hockey on skates that were too narrow just because of the hype. Wish I could help with a rec, but I've been out of the roller gear loop for too long now. I'd probably just look on eBay and sideline swap.

Glad to hear. I'm surprised your 950s are still alive, mine didn't even make it through one summer and my 750s turned to mush in about 3 months. I've never had skates go so soft so quickly like the 05 missions. Are yours still stiff at all?

That's weird. I literally just ripped the chassis off an old pair of 750s and did not see anything like that. If you don't have spacers then that's probably why though. It could be that the wheels are not tight to the axel so they're able to move up and around and make contact with the support brackets. Id get some spacers and if it doesn't go away then you can either just ride the 72/80 until they wear down enough to clear, or you can do the 68/76, which will be slower but more maneuverable.

You can run 68mm/76mm wheels, but the chassis is designed to run the wheels with an 8mm differential, so that's the ideal way to run the Hi-Lo setup. 72/76 will work, but it's not ideal. it will have you at a flatter pitch than an 8mm difference. Personally, I just stick with the 72/80. About the rubbing, what part of the wheel is hitting the chassis? Side or the taper?

Gotcha, makes sense. Thanks for clarifying. Looks great btw

I read them. Doesn't answer the question though. I'd consider bringing to lhs if anything was open. Too much of a hassle. Anyway, just wondering if it matter 8-32 or 6-32 and why people choose one over the other

Yeah you can totally use the same boots. I think he was just saying that if you're gonna get the full marsblades setup it come with stock boots, but you can totally just get the frames and mount them. To me this seems like a no brainier given the reputation that marsblades have for enabling almost every aspect of your stride to replicate an ice stride. It's a huge cost savings and I think the difference would be negligible of at all

Thanks for all the info guys. In the end I picked up 2 A7s. Haven't received them yet, so I can't say how I like them. I do know that until I can get on an indoor rink I'll probably just mount them and give it a quick test run, but it doesn't seem like they're ideal for right outdoor surfaces. I'd rather just use them for indoor so u don't destroy then to quickly. In other news, seems like my feet filled out a bit in the last 15 years, so the mission amps are just too narrow. Scored a pair of Bauer supreme 1s for 100 bucks in almost perfect condition, and they fit amazing. Can't wait to mount them and give em a ride with the sprungs. The only question I have about mounting is about the difference between 6-32 and 8-32 tnuts and bolts. It seems that people recommend either. Is there any practical difference or advantage to one over the other? I never did a mount with these, only a riveter that one of my old teammate's father had, so any advice is appreciated. Meanwhile with this whole virus going on I've been getting some time in on a handball court near my place. Busted out the old type Ms with the vibes. Love those things, hope the sprungs are even better.