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Nick is correct, starting in 2016 with the 1S, all the lasts got 1/4 size smaller. This was partly due to the change to the SpeedPlates from the footbed that had the removable tabs. Since retail sizing is in 1/2 size increments, most people would need to size up a half size when going from the MX3 to the 1S, and down a 1/2 size going the other way. If you have an inbetween 1/4 size, you could possibly stay the same size. Tl:dr - if a MX3 and 1S are the same size, the 1S will fit smaller.

Yep, exactly that. It's not just shots either, passes (especially saucer passes) are also flatter and crisp even when reaching or off balance. You don't get that wobbling or flipping end-over-end pass. I'll attribute it to the "hybrid" kick point. They have tuned it so that no matter your hand position or how you load it, it flexes somewhere and gives you energy behind the puck. But, some of this may also be the P90TM curve as well. Either way, I'll buy as many of these as I can get, especially once they get discounted when the FT4 comes out.

Not that it's scientific in any way, but I am amending my vote to the FT3 Pro. It doesn't quite have the same explosive shot as the Nexus ADV at the very top end. But it shoots harder and more consistenly hard in just about every other situation. So times where you're off balance or your technique isn't quite right, it still fires hard shots, as opposed to the ADV which gave ducks. I like the 5 sided shaft of the Nexus better, but prefer the more lively blade of the FT3 Pro. Add in the availability of the P90TM curve and this FT3 Pro might be the best stick I've ever used. I broke my first one in the middle of a skate and had to switch to the Nexus ADV as the backup for the rest. When compared directly back to back that quickly, the FT3 was the clear winner. I drove 45 minutes one way to buy another the next day.

So as I posted earlier, my local Postmaster suggested filing an insurance claim if you're the sender for any package that has been missing or stuck "in transit" for the claim window of the service you used. I did that for a package had been stuck for 15 days. It was finally delivered 2 days later. Today I received a payout check for $64 for that claim, given because the item was past due. If you are the sender of a package that still hasn't been delivered - FILE YOUR CLAIM!

As everyone else has said, the new fit system is meant to allow users to choose their skates based on features, rather than fit. Supremes are meant for “power”. They will wrap the foot better (the reason for the removal of the injected eyelets), and have features like the reflex tongue and tendon guard meant to improve stride efficiency and power transfer. Vapor are for “agility”. They have features meant to enhance lateral skating like the asymmetrical last, injected eyelets (less wrap), and heel ribs. There will be slight variations in feel because of that, but they won’t be as big as they used to be. Someone like you who felt they fit in a Supreme best in the past may now find a Vapor in a Fit 2 to be much more comfortable and similar than before.

As others have said, it's a holiday/Covid backlog. Packages are running 2-3 weeks for domestic delivery. The status will show as "in transit" which simply means the parcel has been scanned out and loaded onto a container, but that container is sitting in a parking lot or warehouse somewhere, waiting to be driven to the next location. I had the same problems as everyone else, but I filed an inquiry. That got me a phone call from my local postmaster, who advised me that once your package enters the claim window, you should file an insurance claim. That gets people searching for the package, which then moves it along the chain faster. For the two packages that I have had issues with, every time I filed the inquiry, they moved the next day. My postmaster told me they have pictures of huge parking lots filled every inch with packed trailers waiting to be moved. They don't have enough trucks or drivers to move them along.

I'd do another 2 just to make sure. But it is possible that the edges are still too deep for him to notice the difference. What I mean is as a skater you can tell the difference between skates that have too much bite, are just right, and don't have enough. But you might not be able to tell the difference between edges that have varying degrees of too much or too little. Just as you can tell the difference between sharp skates and dull skates, but maybe not so much of how dull they are once they get there. An 1/8" difference may only be noticeable if it's crossing from one preference to another (ie too much bite to just right)

I'd say that it's most likely due to manufacturers really pushing the weight reductions in their sticks. Solid wood weighs more than hollow carbon fiber,

If you still need width and volume in a Supreme EE, I'd try to find a Nexus EE as a test before starting the process with Bauer. They're discontinued, so you should be able to find one realtively cheap. I just think it would be a good way of getting a reference point for what Bauer may or may not be able to do. This way you'll have more information and not have to guess what will work and won't going into a custom order. Just my .02

Can the new guys do all the same things you could, ie Quad profiles on Flare steel?

Bauer makes the P92 in a Lie 5, for special orders. It's not quite as low as the P88, but is lower than the regular retail Lie 6. Warrior's numbers are all one lower than Bauer, so a Bauer lie 5 is a Warrior Lie4. But it's all subjective anyway since the P88, listed as a lie 6, is significantly lower than a P92, also a 6, and even lower than a P92 Lie 5 or the P28, which is also a 5.

Thanks. Quad 1 just felt better to me, more agile but also quicker, if not necessarily faster. It makes sense given the shorter radius on most of the zones. 8/9/14 is stable but I don't feel quicker or faster, my strides feel more powerful, but it doesn't seem to translate. Zuperior might be better because of the shorter front section. But I'm thinking Quad 2 is the way to go. Everything is just one foot longer, so I should get close to the same agility with a little more top end speed, without that skating on rails feeling.

You did my Quad 1. You left it unpatched and I still felt the 6' ate off too much, especially compared to the 8' I have now. Plus, like I said, I'm looking for a little more top speed, which probably means a longer back radius. So, Quad 0.5 for the longer front 2 zones and a little more of the back zone or Quad 2 mostly for the longer middle zones since the end zones will be smaller on 272 steel?

Are the lengths of the 4 zones the same on all the Quad profiles? I used to have a Quad 1 on my Flare steel. As discussed in that thread, the 6' front was eating away too much of the flare and probably unnecessary. I was also looking for a little more speed, so I switched to a 8-9-14 on my new steel. It might be a touch faster in the long end, but I prefered the Quad. I cracked my steel last night, so am considering switching the profile again for a new set. Will the Quad 0.5 give me the same feeling as the Q1, with a little more speed? Or are the zone lengths the same, meaning the back area is still pretty small, leaving me with a mostly 12' main portion? Should I go to Quad 2? Im on 272 steel, which is on the smaller end for Quad 2.

I'd say they're close enough to call them the "same". My P90TM and P88 are cut the exact same length and I don't notice any differences in the way the blade is touching the ice. The tape on the bottom is still wearing evenly on both. Both are much lower than a P29/92, even the lie 5 variant. Just get it. If you're a P88 user but want better puck control and elevation on shots and passes, that's what this curve is. I can't tell you that you'll be able to hit the exact same spot as with your P92. I can tell you that you will shoot better and higher than the P88, but still get all the puck certainty benefits of the P88. And you won't shoot as high as a P28. If you really don't like it, and use a RH 70 flex FT3 Pro, I'll buy it from you.

I agree with boo10, P90TM is the same as P92 up until about the last inch or two of the toe. It opens more at the toe, but that may also just be an illusion because of the beak curve. I have more control of my shots and keep them lower with P90TM than I did with P92. But I also have more control and can elevate them faster and higher than with P88. This curve is really the best of all three worlds, for me at least.

I think the P90TM retail curve might work for you. I'm also a P88 using defenseman because I need the flatter rocker and taller blade, plus the wide rounded toe and lower lie. P29/92 has way too much rocker for me. P28 has too much of a narrow arrowhead shaped toe. The retail P90TM is very similar to the flat rocker and wider blade as the P88 from the heel to the middle. Then it opens up like a P29/92 until the very end of the toe where it has a slight beak like the P28 but still the wider toe of the P29/92/88. It's not quite as open as the P29 at the end of the toe because of the beak. But it's definitely more open than a P88. Honestly, this is probably my favorite curve because it gives me the best of everything while eliminating most of the drawbacks. You get the flat, wide blade of the P88, but with more openness and rocker in the toe. Plus the openness of the P29/92 without the rocker and thinness of the heel. With P29/92, I would often get the puck rolling off the toe, likely because the amount of rocker from heel to toe. That doesn't happen on P90TM because the hooked toe keeps the puck in place. So I get nice flat saucer passes, and quick puck elevation without the rocker. And the toe curve of the P29 to keep the puck on the stick and for shooting, without the extreme rocker and arrowhead shape on the toe.

Those custom $450 shoes aren't even comparable for this discussion. Adidas makes shoes with a 4D printed outsole, exactly like this, that don't cost any more than the top tier running shoe with their advanced foam tech (Boost). Advanced foams are expensive. They are used sparingly in small sections of the helmet. That requires multiple types of foams and materials to be sourced and then all of them assembled. A "4D" printed interior may reduce the number of materials and assembly time needed and keep the price in line. I'm sure it will be slightly higher because well, fancy new tech. But it's doubtful it will be double the current price of the top of the line helmet.

I just answered this, turns out I was mistaken. I thought it was that because of the large composite heel piece on the outside that was present on all the skates, even when the quarter is made of different materials. So I thought they were taking that composite heel and outsole and attaching it to whatever the quarter is.

That's a really interesting video because he's showing you the inner shell of the skate. I was wrong, I thought True was making that using two pieces fused together. That's what Bauer is doing with the Ultrasonic. CCM is doing the same as True and making it out of one piece also. Any seams could be the layering of other pieces or the way the composite fabric is cut. It's made with a cut out pattern just like any other garment and the piece is laid out in the mold to form the shell. If CCM is using a pattern where two ends have to be folded onto each other, there could be a seam like appearance. When it comes down to it, all theese "one piece" boots are using the same design concept - create a solid shell that makes the Quarter and outsole one piece and eliminates the midsole. That creates stiffness and stability through the heel and the bottom of the skate. Both Bauer and True are even using the same term - "unibody". How they layer materials on that shell vaires from skate to skate, but the one piece shell remains the same through all of them. I believe the difference between the Ultrasonic and the True/CCM is that Bauer is making that shell in two pieces. They are making the composite quarter like they have for pretty much any skate for years. Then they are making a composite heel and outsole piece and fusing them together in a mold using resin. It's one complete shell made of two pieces. It's not the old process where they would make a composite shell and then attach the midsole and outsole to it using glue and nails. That's how they are making the 3S Pro - same two pieces, but made using the old method.

Yes, that’s what he’s saying. And then further that the only difference between the 3S Pro and the Ultrasonic is the tongue and the steel. 🙄

I believe the True boot is closer to the Bauer design than the CCM, that being different pieces fused together. CCM is one, uncut piece of material for the whole boot, except the toe cap. Bauer and True are taking a quarter piece and a heel/outsole piece and fusing them together with resin in a mold. Bauer is using Curv composite for the whole thing, while True is varying the materials on each model.

This boot is a semi-one piece boot. It's nothing like the One95. They are wrapping the outsole up the heel and then fusing it to the quarter in the mold, similar to what True does. The 3S Pro is the same design but they are just gluing and stitching the outsole and not fusing it. Ultrasonics have the flexible tendon guard, the reflex tongue, significantly better internal foams and liner, a much, much more formable quarter, and a formable lace system. The whole point of this skate is to wrap around the foot and remove as much negative space as possible. They're still using the injected facing in the Vapor skates, so it's not a quality decision, but rather a design decision to differentiate between lines. The tongue on the 3S Pro has Curv composite plates in it to make it heat formable and give protection. It's not just basic felt. Even the 3S has a reflex tongue. I do agree they are probably behind CCM without a true one piece boot, but so is everyone else then too, since CCM is the only one that offers that.

It is, or for me at least. I think for a person that typically uses a low kick stick, the ADV is giving them some real improvements. The best way I can describe it is that it's giving the power and accuracy of a mid kick with the release speed of a low. I get almost the same power out of my 2N Pro, but the pop and release off the ADV is much better. I'm interested to see how much of the blade tech, if any, they integrate into the Geo. The 5 sided shaft is great too, so that's already a plus.

I wish you could have gotten a Nexus ADV in there too. But this is great, thanks! I loooove my ADV, but the P90TM curve is very enticing. I'm happy to hear that the FT3 Pro is getting such great reviews (yours isn't the only one that says this) because it means I might be able to try out that curve on a stick I like. I liked the P30 curve, but the Trigger2, Trigger3, and original Jetspeed I tried it on were all garbage compared to the 1X Lite, 2016 1X, and 2N Pro with P88 that I had been using (imo of course). So I just wasn't ever able to use it.