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Even if the holder is the same. The boot won't have the tendon guard. Is the tongue also different for the goal skates?

Wouldn't that make them different then? What do you mean "same?"

Sounds like what I went through. For me, I found removing the red foot bed worked best for getting a better fit /lock for my right skate around the ankle and heel. Also if you bake ur skates a number of times your tongue can get overly creased so it might be a good idea to reheat the tongue only to get it's normal shape back which helps with unflattening the tongue. Lastly, I moved my tongue a bit down so it would decrease a lot of the volume above the toes.

I can tell holding the skate but the reason I swapped wasnt because of the weight. It was mainly due ot aesthetics.

What's the boo boo? Cosmetic?

I did. If you look at my original post on page 114, I initially ordered them with the step holders. I since swapped them out. The step holders were quite heavy compared to the ls edge.

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I also had arch pain (ache) on my left foot only. I still wear the superfeet as I find it the most comfortable. I don't like the spongey feel of the stock insoles, but I will agree that overall fit is probably best with the stock insoles since they are made specifically for the skate. What I did was the red footbed trick where you cut out the footbed around the arch area and that seemed to work. However, I since removed the red footbeds altogether for an overall better fit for both skates. Since then I noticed some left arch soreness again but that's only when I'm doing stick and puck sessions and I'm on the ice for an HR straight. And it's only an ache. I am sure it will subside after a few skates and it's something I'm not concerned about.

You could have tried to email their skates department regarding your order. But at this point it's kind of pointless. They are probably getting a large amount of orders esp for Xmas. And also now that it's been about 3-4 mths since True took over VH and word has spread like crazy that the skates are legit.

I was also quoted 80 a pair. When I re heated my tongue I didn't lace it and let it cool so it wouldn't have any lace marks molded to it. After a couple bakes the tongues got creased to the point where it caused me some laces bite type pinching. After I baked the tongue and let it cool, it was nice and thick again and provided the padding I wanted. It's funny how much of a difference ditching the red footbed makes but I guess the footbed system is meant to work with the red and true insole, and something like the superfeet will throw the dimensions off too much. I am just glad I figured out what works for me and am very happy with the fit. I didn't like the stock insole because it felt too spongey and I guess I was just too used to the superfeet having used it for years.

A little update on my situation. Which has ended on a good note. I got my right skate to fit the way I want it. And it was pretty simple, afterall. 1) I actually ditched the red footbeds altogether and ran with just the superfeet carbon pro. The extra volume without the red footbeds actually created more room for a proper heel lock. Ironically, the increased volume with the red footbed and the heel lift of the superfeet made things kind of wonky. It was just weird that the combo didn't really affect my left foot/skate, but like I said my right foot has more pronation and always had fit issues vs my left. 2) I also noticed that swapping the tongues from the left made the right skate feel much more snug. And having the right tongue on the left skate made the left side feel off as well. When I compared the two tongues the right tongue seemed thinner and had deeper creases. I attributed this to that tongue being heated up a number of times when it was baked with the right skate What i ended up doing was I heated up the tongue in the oven. After it was heated up, it retained it's regular shape and removed the creases, and once cooled, it was back to it's regular form/stiffness. So doing the above two things, I was able to get the right to fit the way I wanted to, and glad it all worked out. When to a skate and puck session today to test it out and was extremely happy with the fit and comfort.

You find the thick felt limited range of motion? And also fit of the skate? And did you have to rebake due to the thicker tongue.

Anyone here order an extra set of tongues, and know how much they would be?

Personally, I don't think you can compare the VH skates to any of the big brands out there in terms of fit etc...

Probably because they don't know any better/ are used to it. And the big names don't have to guarantee anything since they arent custom made for the individual. The only good thing about the big brands is you can at least try the skates on to get a sense of what you are dealing with. I kind of worried about not know what I was getting into with True/vh and my worst nightmare might be coming true. No pun intended

Just an update on my situation. Tried my skates on again after a total of four bakes (right skate only), and still isn't feeling right. It actually feels worse than I think after the very first bake. I've done all the recommended things True has advised of through my communication with them via email. Everything from clamp, to tensor to insole/ footbed combinations. At this point I am at a loss of what to do. I personally don't think this much tinkering and remoulding should be required for a custom boot that's 1000$. The left skates fit great after one bake so i know it isn't my expectations that are high. I've contacted True regarding my thoughts and concerns regarding a rescan/remake of the right skate, or even a refund. I'd hate to ultimately lose the skates because I believe they are the best in the market right now in terms of comfort and performance. But I won't settle for a sub par fitting right skate for the price point. I'll keep you guys updated.

I had some pinching from my tongue on my lower shin right above my inside ankle bone where the edge of the inside of the tongue ended and met the inside of the boot. It caused some rubbing but nothing major. One way to resolve it is to take a heat gun and gently decrease the wrap at the eyelets around your ankle area ,assuming that's where you are having the problem. I since rebaked my skate and made sure I didn't crank on the wrap in the eyelet area on the top part of the skate, but just made sure it was snug around the ankle bone. FIRST GAME PLAYED I played an actual game and the skates are so responsive. I didn't even feel tired after each shift and after the game. I felt my stop and go was effortless. I felt a bit clumsy a couple times but nothing major. RIGHT SKATE ISSUE I did notice my previously mentioned right skate issue still. Although when I take strides and skate I don't really feel it. Mainly when walking in them, and if I focus on it on certain movements like putting my weight down on the skate. Best way to describe it is it feels a bit spongey. I ended up going home and re baking it a third time. This time I wore thinner socks during the molding so it would create a snugger fit. Also, instead doing what Scott briefly does when ensuring the wrap and fit, I actually pushed the sides of the boot upward to make the boot mold more narrow, especially on the inside part of the skate. I figure this will provide a narrower fit as opposed to pushing the boot on the sides and top etc. I basically pushed in on the sides from the bottom, and kept pressure on it and moved up towards the eyelets as if I was trying to draw air bubbles out from the bottom of the boot to the top, if they makes sense. I tried it on again this morning and it feels better but still noticed some play in the inner arch. I then started to really analyze my feet and BINGO. My right foot is noticeably more pronated than my left but only when weight is placed on it. There is some pronation with my left foot but the pronation stops at a certain point even with all my weight placed on the left foot. With the right foot, it will pronate with some weight, and then my ankle and arch will completey collapse when all my weight is down. I then realized that the sloppy feeling is because my right ankle pronates more. I did a bunch or lunges and put pressure on my foot as if I was pushing off for strides and it was interesting to see that while my left foot was more or less stable and the weight distribution was fairly even, when I did the same movement on my right foot you can see the arch collapse and the ankle really fall inwards. That's the exact feeling I was getting in the right skate. The "loose feeling was actually the inside of my arch/foot turning over. So I don't know if the skates are so custom that it would account for something like over pronation to my extent. The 3d scanning is done in a static position and I would assume depending how I was positioned with my right foot when the scan was taken, it could be the reason for the fit issue I am having. I am going to see if my latest bake minimized the issue so that it doesn't play with my head, if not I have extra red footbeds on its way from true. I may be forced to use those to make a diy wedges to prevent my arch from collapsing. Mind you I do have the superfeet carbon pros in the skates already. Sorry for the long post but in the event that someone encounters something similar to me, at least this could be of some help. I also ordered a pair of Powerfoot for the toes. I know I could slide the tongues down more to minimize the space in the toe cap, but I like the height of my tongue right now.

After rebaking the right skate and using the clamp method, my issue is still there and has improved only minimally. I even tried the true insole as well. Not sure exactly what to do next. I emailed True to see what they suggest. I have a feeling they will tell me to double up on the red footbed. I don't have a problem with that if it works, but the only issue with that is my left is fine and I'm hesitant on thickening only one footbed and not the other. And if I do the left it may alter the fit of the left negatively. Overall it's still a very comfortable and high performing skate and fits way better than any other skate I have worn in the past. But because the skate is so responsive, you tend to get a lot more sensory feedback from your feet, so you notice the smallest things. 😶. Anyways, still pretty happy with the purchase. Been on a total of two stick and pucks so far, and even though there's no real "break in" necessary for the skates in terms of comfort. There definitely is going to be some adjustment time just for the overall feel for the skate. Next post will be when I get the Black ls2 edge holders and step black steel mounted 😁

I like it. It gives you are best of both worlds in terms of a forward pitch, easy turning, and I feel a lot more stable skating backwards. All without really sacrificing the other as with traditional profiling.

It has a slight forward pitch. I would suggest getting it profiled while it's mounted. I had a quad zero profile while mounted and it didn't feel much different than when I had my old Bauer's profiled to that. I did however, go and order black tuuks and step black steel 😁

Thanks!

My issue may not be a heel lock issue then. It is snug and doesn't move side to side but for whatever reason it "feels" like it slightly lifts off the bottom of the skate by the heel when I push off. Like I said I don't know if it's in my head or actually the spring effect of the super feet insole. When the skates are on, I don't feel any negative space at all. I am going to try a session out with the true insoles. Anyone still using the stick true insoles and like them?

Thanks for the reply. I know there are video clips out there but you can't really see exactly where it is clamped except "not on the ankle bone". Are you able to post a pic and point out exactly where you clamped?

If you haven't you need to watch all the YouTube videos for the skate on Trues page. They are helpful. If you aren't unlacing at least the first two eyelets, and loosening the laces completey, you need to be doing that as well. Don't be cranking on ur skate to try to get it off. I have a pretty tight wrap and I am able to put on and take of the skates without much issue if I do what i stated above. Oh, and remember to pull the tongue forward away from the boot when you put them on and off.

Anyone have any success using the ratchet clamp technique for a better heel lock? I want to do it for my right skate but don't want to potentially damage anything. I emailed true regarding how many times one can bake their skates and they said up to eight times which is a good thing, but obviously I don't want to keep hearing them to if I don't have to. Right now I'm not sure if my mind is playing games on me or not. My right foot seems to be more sensitive in terms of sensory reception. Like I pay more attention to it than my left. Even when I walk in shoes it feels like my right heel moves more. Not sure if it's because my right ankle is less stable due to a previous injury therefore it feels more sloppy or if the heel lock does need to be a touch tighter. Anyways on another note, I ordered black tuuks and step black steel. I couldn't resist..... I regret not just getting the boot, but then again I wouldn't have gotten the heel cup :p