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I need a new (longer) endplug for my synergy sl.

i bought the stick from a friend and he has cut the endplug.

unfortunately its a bit too short for my personal preference.

do you know where i can get a new one ?

thanks

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I`ve checked a couple of LHS, the only ones they had were ones pulled out of sticks that smaller players bought and didn`t need. Unfortunatly, it`s not like you can go and tell them to order an Easton model# XXX-XXXX composite 8 inch plug for you. Sooner or later they will replace the wooden plugs all together. I`m hoping to get a couple myself one of these days, I have a couple of shafts that are a bit top-heavy compared to the blade end.

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Hey, someone who has extra time on their hands and both plugs, weigh a wood plug and a composite plug (of the same length, obviously), and find out what difference there is in weight.

I think you'll be amazed at how little the difference is.

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I need a new (longer) endplug for my synergy sl.

i bought the stick from a friend and he has cut the endplug.

unfortunately its a bit too short for my personal preference.

do you know where i can get a new one ?

thanks

Check Ebay, I have seen some on there from time to time.

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Zak, you might want to try an Oggie Grip: www.oggiegrip.com

I met the guy who designed the grips just as I was packing up at the Vegas show, and he gave me an Ergo Grip to try. I liked how it felt in bare hands, but I was concerned it might feel funny attached to the stick. However, I wanted a longer stick anyway, so I gave it a try.

The first night I didn't notice any difference, and I thought that was encouraging. The next night I got on the ice earlier and took more shots, and I definitely noticed increased speed. Maybe even a bigger advantage, however, is it fits so much better in your hands that it's almost impossible for people to knock the stick out of your hands when you sweep check someone.

I saw him again at the Expo during the Minnesota HS Championships and his booth was packed with the kids. When I remarked that it seemed I was getting harder shots, he showed me a grip with a transparent skin and pointed out that it has built-in flex points. He also showed me a couple of other products. He's working on a Classic Grip, which is a straight grip with built-in flex points; I liked the Ergo Grip better, but it's all preference. He also has something called Sticky Grip Foam, which are foam cushion cut-outs you place on your stick, then tape over. He had sticks with the Grip Foam versus the traditional spun tape made to create finger paths; even though the foam grip was a touch wider, it actually felt smaller because it had 'give' to it.

I won't switch back to a regular tape knob. But, again, it's all preference. But there's also precedence. A lot of guys in the past would shave the top of their wooden sticks to make them fit their hands better. This guy took the same idea and engineered a way to increase shots speed also.

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I'll second the idea of the foam cutouts you tape over. I got to feel them down at the Chowder Cup and I definitely liked the feel of them.

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I have two composite end plugs from the stealths that I have owned. I'll sell them to you for next to nothing. I've PM'd you.

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[Do you have any idea how much those weigh?]

I think they are a few ounces but, in truth, it didn't matter to me as long as my productivity was greater.

What I mean by that is many players like to have the lightest stick, but if a company came out with a ten-pound stick that was verified to add twenty miles to your shot, would you buy it? For me, I've noticed that I've had harder shots and better control on my stick; what I haven't noticed is whether my stick is heavier or lighter.

Regarding the other plug, I was given one of those at the Vegas show also. I liked the feel of the Oggie Grip better but, again, it's all personal preference.

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Website (FAQ) says they weigh 4 oz., or 112 grams.

My biggest concern (aside from whether or not I could get used to the grip) would be the effect that 112 grams had on the balance of the stick. With sticks these says, that's right about 25% of the whole stick weight. I suppose that the flex that was introduced would have some effect as well - as would that of cutting your stick down a few inches in order to keep the same length (assuming it's longer than a normal plug, and whether or not you cut your stick).

Not sure it's for me, would be interesting to try (although I don't think I would BUY one to do that). Cool to see hockey innovations at the very least.

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What I mean by that is many players like to have the lightest stick, but if a company came out with a ten-pound stick that was verified to add twenty miles to your shot, would you buy it? For me, I've noticed that I've had harder shots and better control on my stick; what I haven't noticed is whether my stick is heavier or lighter.

If a ten pound stick put twenty miles on my slapper, I wouldn't care, because my stickhandling would be awful due to the amount of stress my top arm would be under.

Instead of these oggie grips, I'm looking at the old mission butt ends that curved back, and you can get them dirt cheap these days.

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Website (FAQ) says they weigh 4 oz., or 112 grams.

My biggest concern (aside from whether or not I could get used to the grip) would be the effect that 112 grams had on the balance of the stick. With sticks these says, that's right about 25% of the whole stick weight. I suppose that the flex that was introduced would have some effect as well - as would that of cutting your stick down a few inches in order to keep the same length (assuming it's longer than a normal plug, and whether or not you cut your stick).

Not sure it's for me, would be interesting to try (although I don't think I would BUY one to do that). Cool to see hockey innovations at the very least.

But those 112 grams would be taking the place of the wood endplug, a couple inches of the shaft, and whatever tape you would have put on the handle. When you factor all of that in the change to the weight of your stick would be minimal.

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If a ten pound stick put twenty miles on my slapper, I wouldn't care, because my stickhandling would be awful due to the amount of stress my top arm would be under.

I'm sorry, I had been exaggerating to make a point. But, now that we know the grips weigh four ounces, I'll use more realistic numbers.

The lightest sticks on the market have now fallen below one pound, while most players are probably using sticks that are just over a pound. After cutting off some stick length and no longer using tape, the grip probably adds just over two ounces, which is why I said I couldn't notice any difference in weight on my previous post -- it's just too small a difference.

I have noticed an improvement in performance, however, and was suggesting the grip as an alternative to a composite butt end if others wanted to see whether they might also get improved performance.

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A third of an ounce? Pretty much as I always expected. 11 grams different is NOTHING. People need to get over that.

I supposed, however, with an 8 inch long plug it'd equal one ounce, but still.... wood has better natural resonance and can be easily cut to fit proper legnth.

People need to get over the graphite plug craze. They cost 3 times as much, offer nothing in performance, and don't offer as much flexibility in regards to customizing it's length.

Good sluething, SW21. That is actually an answer I have wanted to know since this craze started, and you've just solidified my point.

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Yea, it took me about 20 seconds to take both pictures and grab the plugs from downstairs. Glad I could help.

BTW, mine came free with my SL, I won't use it because I cut my sticks short, but if I did have plugs, I would use wood so I can shave them down.

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K, these are the two weights, same length plugs.

Composite

Wood

A 1 year old wouldn't notice that difference.

did the composite endplug have glue on it? Just wondering.

Salming, I understood your point, but weight defenately does matter to an extent. I think the weight of what you're actually holding in your hand (the lowest leverage point, if really any leverage at all) is a lot different than if that weight was in the shaft. The only reason I won't buy it is the price and the fact you have to cut down your stick, and if you don't like it, you're screwed. So at least 128 dollars down the drain if you don't like Oggie.

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