KOR Shift 1 and 2

[irbenaid 0]

Definitely have to stand up in the Kors and lean slightly forward. The sit back down. Do this a bunch of times until they cool. You should also use your hands to form them around the foot once they're hot. If they still don't feel right after this then you can even use a hair dryer or carefully use a heat gun to spot heat them. With my Shift 2's I didn't have that great heel lock like I did with the Shift 1's. So I heated them up nice and hot with a hair dryer, both inside and out, and then literally squeezed them with my hands until I could see them get tighter. After that I put my feet right in them to stretch them back out a bit and they've been perfect since I did that. Spot heat them until they feel like slippers.

[Ogie Oglethorpe 14]

theyve been out of the hockey business since 2005... what your finding still new is remainder of the stock that once existed

I don't think your year is right as I had my custom Kor Shift2's made in late 2007 and they were still around at the start of 2008 (and were releasing a Kor stick in fact).

I believe I read that they did composites (not just sticks, but in general) for companies so the Mexico facility is probably still operating in that way, but perhaps the sticks/skates have been KIA'd. (I believe you will see Gear skates that look a lot like Kors on Hockey Giant that are "newish").

[BreakingParadigms 0]

theyve been out of the hockey business since 2005... what your finding still new is remainder of the stock that once existed

I don't think your year is right as I had my custom Kor Shift2's made in late 2007 and they were still around at the start of 2008 (and were releasing a Kor stick in fact).

I believe I read that they did composites (not just sticks, but in general) for companies so the Mexico facility is probably still operating in that way, but perhaps the sticks/skates have been KIA'd. (I believe you will see Gear skates that look a lot like Kors on Hockey Giant that are "newish").

The complete operation ceased to exist back in September 2008. There's still merchandise floating around in the market and I'm happy to help on any query's if necessary. :)

Glad to see you're happy so far with your skates goodguy. Ogie, is there anything I can help you with ??

EZ

[goodguy 7]

theyve been out of the hockey business since 2005... what your finding still new is remainder of the stock that once existed

I don't think your year is right as I had my custom Kor Shift2's made in late 2007 and they were still around at the start of 2008 (and were releasing a Kor stick in fact).

I believe I read that they did composites (not just sticks, but in general) for companies so the Mexico facility is probably still operating in that way, but perhaps the sticks/skates have been KIA'd. (I believe you will see Gear skates that look a lot like Kors on Hockey Giant that are "newish").

The complete operation ceased to exist back in September 2008. There's still merchandise floating around in the market and I'm happy to help on any query's if necessary. :)

Glad to see you're happy so far with your skates goodguy. Ogie, is there anything I can help you with ??

EZ

Very happy ..so far..buthe hasn't skated in them yet - but I am patient and will definitely give them an extended trial period to see how they perform.

Now, I have a line on a never used pair of Shift 1's for myself and I am getting ready to pull the trigger. After hearing the positive following the Shift1's seemed to have, I am intrigued as to how different they are than the Shift 2's.

[Ogie Oglethorpe 14]

Glad to see you're happy so far with your skates goodguy. Ogie, is there anything I can help you with ??

Eduardo! I'll shoot you a PM but its good to see you're still around.

Peter

[BreakingParadigms 0]

theyve been out of the hockey business since 2005... what your finding still new is remainder of the stock that once existed

I don't think your year is right as I had my custom Kor Shift2's made in late 2007 and they were still around at the start of 2008 (and were releasing a Kor stick in fact).

I believe I read that they did composites (not just sticks, but in general) for companies so the Mexico facility is probably still operating in that way, but perhaps the sticks/skates have been KIA'd. (I believe you will see Gear skates that look a lot like Kors on Hockey Giant that are "newish").

The complete operation ceased to exist back in September 2008. There's still merchandise floating around in the market and I'm happy to help on any query's if necessary. :)

Glad to see you're happy so far with your skates goodguy. Ogie, is there anything I can help you with ??

EZ

Very happy ..so far..buthe hasn't skated in them yet - but I am patient and will definitely give them an extended trial period to see how they perform.

Now, I have a line on a never used pair of Shift 1's for myself and I am getting ready to pull the trigger. After hearing the positive following the Shift1's seemed to have, I am intrigued as to how different they are than the Shift 2's.

The transition to the lower cut boot (Shift1) is something that takes time, at the end you'll gain more control over your strides, the most common issue with people that do this transition is an initial discomfort/rubbing with the top collar, this is taken care of by leaving the top eyelet unlaced.

Also, there's the limitation to switching holders, it's not impossible, but it requires some craftsmanship.

[Rayzilla 0]

Sorry to tack this on the thread but I dread wading through all 20,000 psots in this thread and finding the answer but I know someone can answer it quicker:

What are the sizing differences ebtween the KOR Shift 1 and Shift 2 skates?

If I am a 12.5 shoe - am I looking at a ______ Shift 1 and a __________ Shift 2.

Thanks.

I have this same question and the other thing is whether there is a difference in Candadian and US sizing. If it's a US seller, I assume they would be quoting a US size?

If I am a 9 Cdn. shoe or size 42/43 European - am I looking at a ______ Shift 1 and a __________ Shift 2.

Thanks.

[althoma1 575]

Rayzilla Posted Yesterday, 07:59 PM

QUOTE (goodguy @ Jul 11 2009, 12:12 PM)

Sorry to tack this on the thread but I dread wading through all 20,000 psots in this thread and finding the answer but I know someone can answer it quicker:

What are the sizing differences ebtween the KOR Shift 1 and Shift 2 skates?

If I am a 12.5 shoe - am I looking at a ______ Shift 1 and a __________ Shift 2.

Thanks.

I have this same question and the other thing is whether there is a difference in Candadian and US sizing. If it's a US seller, I assume they would be quoting a US size?

If I am a 9 Cdn. shoe or size 42/43 European - am I looking at a ______ Shift 1 and a __________ Shift 2.

Thanks.

You won't get a very accurate answer using shoe size as the gauge as everyone wears their shoes differently (some leave quite a bit of room at the end and some wear them quite tight). A much better way to get a decent estimate is to use your correct skate size (as tight as possible without pain with your toes brushing the toe cap) in at least one brand and model of skate. For example, if you were a size 8 in CCM Vector Pro skates or an 8.5 in Easton S15 skates, I'd estimate you'd take a size 9 KOR. That's really just a guess based on my experience with the skates and what I've read here...you can't really be sure unless you try them on, but a skate size will allow someone to give you a much better estimate than a shoe size.

The length of the Shift 1 and Shift 2 feels very similar (I have both), but the toe glove is different in the Shift 2. My shift 2 feels slightly tighter on my right foot in the toe box, but I've mainly been wearing the Shift 1's so it could just feel that way because the Shift 1's are more broken in than the Shift 2's.

As for the Canadian vs. US sizing...as far as I know everyone quotes US sizes in both the US and Canada. That's been my experience and I've always lived in Canada. Most skates and shoes I own have US, UK, and European sizes. I can't recall too many pairs having Canadian sizing - I always look for the US size on both skates and shoes.

[Rayzilla 0]

Thanks. Please see my comments in BLUE.

You won't get a very accurate answer using shoe size as the gauge as everyone wears their shoes differently (some leave quite a bit of room at the end and some wear them quite tight). A much better way to get a decent estimate is to use your correct skate size (as tight as possible without pain with your toes brushing the toe cap) in at least one brand and model of skate....

This is a very good point that you raise. Quoting a skate size would lead to a more accurate response, and to add to this, it would be best if the person providing their opinion also describe how they like to wear their skates.

...For example, if you were a size 8 in CCM Vector Pro skates or an 8.5 in Easton S15 skates, I'd estimate you'd take a size 9 KOR. That's really just a guess based on my experience with the skates and what I've read here...you can't really be sure unless you try them on, but a skate size will allow someone to give you a much better estimate than a shoe size...

Thank you very much! From what I have been reading, I am starting to draw the same conclusion as you on these skates that I am interested in (and it's driving my wife crazy in terms of how long I've been on the internet researching all of this :o ) A little bit of background on my situation - I was born and lived all of my life in Toronto, but I've recently (temporarily) relocated to Hong Kong (so I can tell you all about hockey life in HK now). I will be going to Toronto in September for a short trip and I hope to fulfill most of my hockey gear purchases in that busy time. So I can't try any of these skates on now (and I am very unfamiliar with player skates since I normally play in goal, but I will not have too much time when I visit Toronto too).

...The length of the Shift 1 and Shift 2 feels very similar (I have both), but the toe glove is different in the Shift 2. My shift 2 feels slightly tighter on my right foot in the toe box, but I've mainly been wearing the Shift 1's so it could just feel that way because the Shift 1's are more broken in than the Shift 2's....

The part I do not fully understand is the neoprene thing that is supposed to be on the inside of the Shift 2 toe cap. What is the purpose of it? Is it removable (sounds like it)? And if it is, doesn't that mean that you would simply remove it if the skates are too tight (assuming they do not serve any real purpose)?

...As for the Canadian vs. US sizing...as far as I know everyone quotes US sizes in both the US and Canada. That's been my experience and I've always lived in Canada. Most skates and shoes I own have US, UK, and European sizes. I can't recall too many pairs having Canadian sizing - I always look for the US size on both skates and shoes....

That's funny, I thought it was the other way around and that the skates were quoted in Canadian size. Do you think that might be part of the reason why you always buy down in size (at least in Canada)? Because my understanding is that the Canadian shoe size is bigger than the US, i.e. an 8 in Canada would be a 9 in US size. Thus a size 8 skate (being equivalent to US sizing) would be like a size 7 shoe in Canada. Does this make sense?

[althoma1 575]

This is a very good point that you raise. Quoting a skate size would lead to a more accurate response, and to add to this, it would be best if the person providing their opinion also describe how they like to wear their skates.

I like to wear my skates as tight as possible with my toes brushing the end, but without pain or discomfort. To me that's the ideal fit.

Thank you very much! From what I have been reading, I am starting to draw the same conclusion as you on these skates that I am interested in (and it's driving my wife crazy in terms of how long I've been on the internet researching all of this ) A little bit of background on my situation - I was born and lived all of my life in Toronto, but I've recently (temporarily) relocated to Hong Kong (so I can tell you all about hockey life in HK now). I will be going to Toronto in September for a short trip and I hope to fulfill most of my hockey gear purchases in that busy time. So I can't try any of these skates on now (and I am very unfamiliar with player skates since I normally play in goal, but I will not have too much time when I visit Toronto too).

I believe hockeygiant.ca has a store in Scarborough (haven't visited myself), but the hours are something like 9-6pm during the week. The last time I looked at their site they had the KOR Gear Skates and the Shift 1 skates so you may want to drop by there while you're in Toronto. They're more expensive than hockeygiant.com had them for and more than you'll find them for on ebay, but at least you'll be sure you're getting the right size.

The part I do not fully understand is the neoprene thing that is supposed to be on the inside of the Shift 2 toe cap. What is the purpose of it? Is it removable (sounds like it)? And if it is, doesn't that mean that you would simply remove it if the skates are too tight (assuming they do not serve any real purpose)?

On the Shift 1's the toe glove stretched and it made the skate feel a bit tighter for people that were between sizes or that had skates 1/4 too big. For me this helped with my left foot as it's slightly smaller than my right, but my right foot is still comfortable in them. On the Shift 2's I find that the toe gloves are more like a liner and now that you mention it I might just remove the toe glove if the toe area still feels a bit tight when I wear them more. I tried reheating the skates with a heat gun in that area carefully last night, but was still getting pressure on the right foot where the toe cap and the boot meet. The left skate and the rest of the right skate felt fine. I may try removing at least the right toe glove to see if that helps, but I'm still using Shift 1's as my main skates as I'm used to those and they're very comfortable with no hotspots.

That's funny, I thought it was the other way around and that the skates were quoted in Canadian size. Do you think that might be part of the reason why you always buy down in size (at least in Canada)? Because my understanding is that the Canadian shoe size is bigger than the US, i.e. an 8 in Canada would be a 9 in US size. Thus a size 8 skate (being equivalent to US sizing) would be like a size 7 shoe in Canada. Does this make sense?

I've never even considered Canada vs. US sizing until you mentioned it as I always went by US size. I'm not an expert there. I'd have to ask one or do some google searching to find out, but I personaly don't need to know that badly :).

[BreakingParadigms 0]

Actually, Kor skates are referenced with Canadian sizing.

The toe glove on Shift2 skates is simply a comfort detail to avoid any barefooters the cold and solid feel of the plastic cap. Unlike the Shift1's, this is now glued to the wall of the cap.

If you find a chance to size them up, keep in mind that these skates need to be baked to be properly fitted, you want a more than average tight feel because baking will make your heel drop back further, giving you up to 3/16" more of space length related.

[goodguy 7]

UPDATE:

Ok, so my kid (who I bought 8.5 Shift 2's for off eBay) skated in them for the first two times.

First time out: I was surprised to see how he didn't really miss a stride (pun intended). I was assuming that changing skate sizes from a 5.5 Junior Vapor XXXX to an 8.5 Senior Kor Shift 2 and I really did not see much difference in his skating. Maybe more turning control and speed but then again, he was solid on the Vapors anyway. He did come off the ice after 45 minutes in pain due to some blisters where the bone just below and in front of his inside ankle bone was rubbing. Damn, I now remember having to get the Vapors punched out in the exact same spot. So I took out the heat gun when we got home and used a socket wrench with a short stubby (smooth) extension to press out the spot from the inside after heating. NOTE - a heat gun is VERY hot and it started to bubble the exterior of the boot graphics/silver material - I pulled it off quickly with no real damage.

Second time out: No complaints at all as he said he skated fine with no rubbing or blisters. Although I wasn't there to watch him, I was surprised when I asked his coaches if he missed a beat - they said "no, didn't notice anything". My son said he was losing an edge during drills. His edges seemed fine on inspection so maybe this is him just getting used to longer blades. My guess is with his Vapors he really leaned them over and had to work them. The KOR's perhaps are a bit more "reactive" putting instant energy into the blade on leaning them over and maybe he is overdoing it? Hopefully it is a quick learning curve to get used to the difference.

All and all, I couldn't be happier with the KOR's. Not only did I end up with a high performance skate, but I really had no transition woes from the Vapor XXXX's. In fact, my sons says the skates feel "great, very comfortable, very fast" and he is very picky and subject to the influence of others easily. When his coaches said "why did you switch?" and "what the heck are Kors?" and "I don't like it when players switch, especially from Bauers ..." I cringed becuase my son was listening and probably thinking..."oh, my coach dosen't like my skates..." Little does he - or they - know that he is probably much better off than many of the kids sticking with a name brand skates just because of the name. There was another boy who went from Vapor xxv's to Vapor X:40's at the same practice and he had to take the X:40's off after ten minutes because of the "crunching pain" (even after baking). So my kid skating around like nothing ever changed is nice to see as I can now relax and enjoy watching some hockey. Hopefully he continues to get better on these and ends up proving me right in my little KOR skate experiment. God knows, I have screwed up so many other attempts to change his stuff...please let this one work.

Question (for myself buying some Kor's):

1) Are the Kor Shift 1's and Shift 2's the same length fit inside?

2) Are the Shift 1 neoprene toe liners removable if I need to gain an extra 1/8" or so in the toe area? Not sure but I am buying 11.5 Kors online which I think are right (from all my research and measurements, etc). I am a 12.5 athletic shoe. Brushing the tips on an Easton S15 size 11. Scared that I will jsut be a bit to short on the 11.5's or maybe just right. Would love to know if I am a wee bit too tight, I could remove the neoprene to get them right>

Any advice?

[Neal 41]

UPDATE:

2) Are the Shift 1 neoprene toe liners removable if I need to gain an extra 1/8" or so in the toe area? Not sure but I am buying 11.5 Kors online which I think are right (from all my research and measurements, etc). I am a 12.5 athletic shoe. Brushing the tips on an Easton S15 size 11. Scared that I will jsut be a bit to short on the 11.5's or maybe just right. Would love to know if I am a wee bit too tight, I could remove the neoprene to get them right>

Any advice?

I've been skating in Shift 1's for more than a year now, so I have built some experience. The toe liner isn't designed to be removal, but it is only stitched in at the entrance to the toe box, not glued to the toe box. You could remove it with some work.

But you may not need to. I wear a 12 - 13 athletic shoe and wear 11 Kor Shift 1s. Of course every foot is different, but I think you are in the right range with your 11.5s. In fact, if you can make it happen, I would try an 11.

[goodguy 7]

UPDATE:

Thanks for the advice...I ended up getting a pair of Shift 1's in size 11.5 (I measure out at a 12.5 everyday shoe). Per the KOR sizing guidelines, I should be an 11.5 Kor Skate. I think I measured my heel to longest toe to be just a fraction shy of 11.5 actual inches.

Anyway, I received the KOR 11.5 Shift 1's and was worried when I tried them on as I though they were too small at first. But after lacing them up, they are absolutely PERFECT !

Not only in terms of length but just my initial first time in them (barefoot, not baked yet) they feel like slippers and are the most comfortable, well fitting skates I have ever tried on. They really feel incredibly good. The neoprene "toe sling" in the shift 1's does not reduce the avaialble space but really feels good barefoot - It is a pretty neat innovation that more skate companies should look into. I don't normally skate barefoot but am now considering it after feeling how good this boot fits.

I have tried on, and used so many skates over the years, I guess I had assumed that skates were supposed to be uncomfortable at first (i.e. Feel pretty tight, arches a little pain, too stiff, etc.) but my first thought after putting on the Shift 1's was "WOW...so THIS is how a good fitting skate is supposed to feel.."

They feel very light, very "nimble" like I can almost (I know this sounds dumb but hey....) "dance" around the home carpet in them without feeling like I am wearing skates at all, no tripping, no clumsiness, etc.. Which is something I didn't really feel much before.

I will give an update after I bake and skate in them. But so far so good. Nice to know the sizing chart was accurate (for me anyway). I can see myself wating to get a backup pair of these as I can't imagine another skate fitting so well. I have tried Vapor's, CCM's, Missions, Eastons, etc. and in my opinon, and my limited use so far, there are the best fitting skate I have ever tried on.

[goodguy 7]

Note on the NeoPrene Toe Liner:

The Shift 1 Neoprene is part of the front of the permanantly attached footbed. Think of it like a thin piece of neoprene, in the shape of the toe cap, stiched to the front bottom edge of the footbed (toecap area of the footbed) and attached. It basically is like the front 1/4 of a sock for your toes but it is stiched in very ingeniously so you cant really feel any seams, etc. The permanent footbed liner and neoprene really makes you want to skate barefoot in this skate.

I guess you could remove the neoprene with the careful us of an exacto knife but not sure it would give much more room as it is a thin piece anyway. If you put the skate on barefoot, it really feels as if you already are wearing a sock. No hard plastic edges anywhere around the foot and the footbed feels countoured to your foot (no flatspots) and appears to be a good skate for people with low arches. Good heel lockdown.

The shift 2 neoprene is glued onto the inside area of the toecap and does not have the "sling/sock" feeling ofthe shift 1's neoprene. It seems it would be a bit easier to remove as it is not stiched to the front of the footbed (but it stiched to the sides of the skate but you could just trim through that small area of attachement. But it realyl does nto get in the way and if a benefit as far as I'm concerned.

I can see some real differences in the shift 1 and shift 2 which (while subtle) can really make you prefer one over the other.

It is really too bad - after not giving the skates a second look in the store when they first came out - really think (now that I have had a chance to look into them more) KOR was onto something and it is too bad they couldn't have lasted a bit longer to build up their user base and maybe overcome the initial inertia of getting a new, innovative product adopted in a pretty traditional "change is bad" minded segment. The ski/golf industry is based upon change and sells a ton of innovative equipment. Hockey seems to be more change adverse than many sports. Probably due to the fact that the fit of a skate is so personal and specific that once you find something that works, you tend to stick with it.

Looking at the shift 1 vs shift 2 - it appears that the Shift 1 is a more substansial skate with much thicker padding in the tounge and interior of the boot. Looking at them side by side and comparing models - the Shift 2's actually look more cheaply made eventhough they are still very nice. It just seems that Kor put a whole lot into the Shift 1's and then scaled it back due to cost, whatever to make a more mass market appeal shift 2 (which didn't really go over too well).

I realize they may have had some quality control issues with the Shift 1 more so than the Shift 2 but if you could snag a perfect pair of Shift 1's - IMO you are better off than the shift 2's.

IMO - It seems KOR gave up on the Shift 1's too soon and then when people heard of KOR and started trying on the Shift 2's, they weren't impressed. Staying more true to what made the shift 1 great (comfort, fit) would have probably been a better strategy than dumbing down the skate into the Shift 2 and losing some of what made the skate great to begin with. Don't get me wrong, the Shift 2 is a great skate but now that I have tried the Shift 1 - I am wondering why they changed it so much.

UPDATE 9/5/09 -

WOW - geting used to skating on these and damn they are responsive. All the power goes directly to the ice - whatever you do immedaitely translates to the blade. Pretty nice. As stated on her before re the footbeds feeling "hard" - I agree. There is really not any real cushioning between the carbon fiber bottom of the skate and the footbed liner - you really can feel the hardness of the carbon fiber through the footbed. That may not be bad - I have not baked these yet because I wanted to get a good comparison befero and after baking. I know the footbeds are moldable so perhaps the hard feeling of the footbeds in the Shift 1's will minimize after baking. Other than that - they are the pretty amazing thus far. The speed you get is really noticable - I thought the KOR youtube video with (with the ex nhl'r saying these were like putting ferarris on your feet) - was hype but now that I have tried them - I have to agree.

[Rayzilla 0]

Hey goodguy,

I'm glad to hear that the Shift1's are working out for you. It will be interesting to read about your before and after comments.

I will be leaving for Toronto tonight, so I will finally get a first touch and look at my Shift2's. I hope they will fit me right. I'll also get to see my Graf G-50's in RBK cowling and CCM 852's. Just experimenting to see which is the right skates for me. :)

BTW, I sent you a PM a few weeks ago. Let me know if there is anything that I can help you out with.

Cheers.

[goodguy 7]

Hey goodguy,

I'm glad to hear that the Shift1's are working out for you. It will be interesting to read about your before and after comments.

I will be leaving for Toronto tonight, so I will finally get a first touch and look at my Shift2's. I hope they will fit me right. I'll also get to see my Graf G-50's in RBK cowling and CCM 852's. Just experimenting to see which is the right skates for me. :)

BTW, I sent you a PM a few weeks ago. Let me know if there is anything that I can help you out with.

Cheers.

UPDATE: Have used the Shift 1's about four times on the ice and I must say they just keep getting better. Although I havent taken the time to bake them yet (and I'm sure that will further enhance the fit) but I can't imagine it getting any better. I have absolutely NO pain spots, no rubbing, nothin but an excellent fit. It is like with just skating a few times, the boot has formed to my foot and feels like I never knew a skate could feel.

Anyway, what I have noticed about the Shift2's is there seems to be a bit less to them. For example, on the interior of the SHift1, you get some serious padding but just right padding, not too soft and not too hard. The Shift2's have less of this and seem like more of a "typical" skate (albeit still above what most skates provide).

Although, my son skates on the shift2's and I could not be happier with his perfomance on these skates - I am wondering about how the shift 1's would work for him.

There seems to be some magic that they hit on with the Shift1's (low boot, amazing padding, non-removable footbed, tor sock) that they backed off off on the Shift2 to become more mainstream and not scare buyers away (or maybe to produce the skate more cost effectively). In doing so, it seems they kind of lost some of the things that made he Shift1 so unique and special.

Don't get me wrong, I will take a Shift2 over almost anyskate out there but the Shift1 has me smiling everytime I hit the ice. But I must admit to never having skated in the Shift2's - just looking at them and comparing them in hand. Maybe I can find a cheap pair to compare but I can't imagine anything being better than the shift 1 (for me anyway).

Just a note about the shift1's and stiffness: While these are considered super stiff skates, i cannot stress enough how you dont notice how "stiff they are" as whatever movement you make is instantly translated into the skate - turns are really cool - they feel so much more powerful.

I am hooked and will buy another pair so as to not be without them.

One thing of not - if you come down hard on a heel there is really no cushioning there it is a pretty hard thing and you can feel it in the heel. But this also translates to making you foot feel like it is in total control and making the skate respond. It has only happened once to me coming over the boards, I landed hard on my heel and it went right through me and I felt like I slightly bruised my heel. But most times, you dont come down that hard. And I would rather have the feeling of my foot being a part of the skate than some super soft insert which adds slop.

If you can pickup a pair - I would highly recommend it.

[ak77 0]

I have recently bought on eBay Kor Shift2 7.5 (skated in Bauer 7000 7D before)

In the box I found small pads (see picture)

What are they for? Baking, where do you put them? Hell lifts?

Thank's.

[Monty22 833]

IIRC, the pads were for the instep area, to be placed there for baking.

[irbenaid 0]

If you have a tight spot that's rubbing you can put it in there and spot heat the boot to make it fit better.

[Bane 1]

I have recently bought on eBay Kor Shift2 7.5 (skated in Bauer 7000 7D before)

In the box I found small pads (see picture)

What are they for? Baking, where do you put them? Hell lifts?

Thank's.

Those are arch pads for the Superfeet insoles. You use them to make the arch bigger.

[ak77 0]

Do I put them on the instep or on the side?

I don't see how can I use them for arch support.

Thanks for answers.

[jcp2 2]

I think Monty's right. They go under your arch on the inside of your foot during the baking and molding process if you need the extra space. I have them for my Shift 1 skates, which do not have a removable insole. I didn't use them.

[kklinder 0]

After baking, I've got minor separation of the upper from the unibase in the arch area of one skate. Any ideas what type of glue they use, or any suggestions of what will do the job? It looks like that only glue where the upper meets the unibase.

After baking, I've got minor separation of the upper from the unibase in the arch area of one skate. Any ideas what type of glue they use, or any suggestions of what will do the job? It looks like that only glue where the upper meets the unibase.

That's on a Shift 1.

[Zipdab 0]

Hoping for some help on baking Kor 1s. Been skating on mine for awhile and they've been so comfortable, I haven't baked them.

Mine didn't come with any instructions, but googling has lead to a couple of different answers as to the best way to bake

8-10 min. @ 180, lace up and bend knees

10 min. @ 220

Does anyone have a scan of the Kor instructions for baking?

Thanks,

Zip