Boa Lacing System on Skates?

[Buzz_LightBeer 975]

MOre parts to break, i wouldnt be sold on the idea

[BK 0]

I can see this as being the next t'blades. Some will love it, most will hate it and both will create a large amount of threads about their opinions on it.

[Justin 1933 134]

We sampled skates with Boa and I personally loved them...I would have used it on Mission Skates, but CCM beat me to it...

[number21 3]

i would think the lace bite could be nasty.

[jason37 2]

I vaguely remember an adult version of the CCM Boa skate that was custom made for a one-armed hockey player who was actually quite good.

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[Alias81 0]

We sampled skates with Boa and I personally loved them...I would have used it on Mission Skates, but CCM beat me to it...

Jusin, have you got any ideas on what the durabilitys like on those things?

[Justin 1933 134]

I won't comment on the CCM skate, as I have no idea on durability, and I try not to comment on competitors product. However, I have wakeboard binding that have BOA on them, and they have held up well...However, in the world of hockey, something needs to cover the dial....

[JR Boucicaut 3810]

I won't comment on the CCM skate, as I have no idea on durability, and I try not to comment on competitors product. However, I have wakeboard binding that have BOA on them, and they have held up well...However, in the world of hockey, something needs to cover the dial....

Ferraro hook ya up with those?

I've been meaning to call that bum.

[G60 0]

i don't think there's '$$$' to be made with this idea.

it is patented, and anybody who wants to use it would have to pay licensing etc, and i doubt skates with a boa lacing system would sell much more to justify all the fees.

durability is a problem too. in addition to protecting the dial and stuff, if the wire were to snap (it's actually very thin) it's not a 5 minute or less deal like replacing a lace.

[jimmy 194]

The problem with the BOA popularity is not in the design as much as the price. Most parents balked at the $129-$149, just out of the acceptable range for a youth/Jr skate. Especially when an equivelant youth skate could be had for $79-99. Parents loved the idea, just not the price. I will say those who bought them, loved them and even bought subsequent pairs as the kids outgrew them.

The BOA system is very durable, have never seen a youth one break. The two reasons they are not on Sr skates was covered above , flexibility in tightening and potential for breakage of the dial. I spoke with BOA several months ago and they told be they were working on a varible tightening system, so perhaps in the future we'll see them on adult skates.

[JR Boucicaut 3810]

Like I hinted earlier, I know for a fact that they are looking into it.

[Jim A 4]

Boa reels are easily replaced if they break, the TNF ultra/trail guys have had great success with the newer reels on the Arnuva and new Endurus ones..however what you would/will see on the ice skate is different than what is currently being shown technology wise on their other licensed products...2008...2008..2008

[DaveTheWave 0]

There's got to be some way to widen/flatten the knob (spool takes wider diameter loops instead) and sink into some carbon fiber - maybe for extra protection on the back of the heel?

[mack 44]

This is all bullcrap because according to Back To The Future Part II we should be nearing a time where these things tie themselves.

[BK 0]

This is all bullcrap because according to Back To The Future Part II we should be nearing a time where these things tie themselves.

But apparently we will still need cow crap for our plants.

[Buzz_LightBeer 975]

isnt it a complete reversal of thought process from the lace lock system?

[DarkStar50 680]

IMO, don't get too excited just yet. Jim spent over an hour today on a BOA repair for a Jackson hinge figure boot. This wasn't the first time he has had to do this. It is often a problem with that ultra thin wire. Today that was where the problem appeared to be. After spending 30 minutes not getting it solved and repaired, he realized it was a problem with a set screw. He was none too happy to devote all this time to this. So lets take the next step and imagine these are hockey skates coming into your shop that have been used and abused. Now there is a problem with the BOA wires and your shop guy can barely do riveting. How is he going to be equipped to work on these? And BTW, Joe AngryCustomer has spent $400 on these skates and wants new ones right now because little Johnny Hogsthepuck is in the most important game of his Peewee career yet. I think I'll continue to keep hockey skate laces in stock. Nothing will ever replace them.

[jimmy 194]

IMO, don't get too excited just yet. Jim spent over an hour today on a BOA repair for a Jackson hinge figure boot. This wasn't the first time he has had to do this. It is often a problem with that ultra thin wire. Today that was where the problem appeared to be. After spending 30 minutes not getting it solved and repaired, he realized it was a problem with a set screw. He was none too happy to devote all this time to this. So lets take the next step and imagine these are hockey skates coming into your shop that have been used and abused. Now there is a problem with the BOA wires and your shop guy can barely do riveting. How is he going to be equipped to work on these? And BTW, Joe AngryCustomer has spent $400 on these skates and wants new ones right now because little Johnny Hogsthepuck is in the most important game of his Peewee career yet. I think I'll continue to keep hockey skate laces in stock. Nothing will ever replace them.

You got to be kidding. A figure skater cannot break a stainless steel wire. Even on Jr hockey skates, the worst I've seen are a few frayed strands of the wires, never a broken one. Fixing a loose set screw is a no brainer, about as easy as tighening a screw. SImple instructions. My wife does those repairs if needed. The BOA cable system is a proven reliable device that's been on many footwear before even put on a hockey skate. Stil, at this point, I don't think the thing is strong enough for a senior skate yet. I'm not real concerned about the dial, but more about the nylon straps that hold the cable guides. these can be cut easy by a skate blade. Then you are screwed. not an easy repair.

[DarkStar50 680]

I make this stuff up for your enjoyment. Once again, you don't bother to read the information presented to you. I never wrote that the wire was BROKEN. I said there was a problem with it. I did not do the work myself. This is not the first time Jim has had to do a repair on the BOA wire and system. The people using these Jackson hinge boots are elite figure skaters that spend more time on the ice than you do sharpening skates. The skaters are putting a lot of pressure, tension, and torque on the boot and especially the upper ankle boot section. This is why the boot was developed in the first place. Since there is no comparison between what an elite figure skater will do to a boot as compared to a squirt hockey player in his CCM low end Vectors with the BOA, please don't try to judge a product that you know nothing about in the presentation that it is in that I am giving an example of. How about the next time you ask a few more questions to get your facts straight before you come to the wrong conclusion at the beginning. If this is how you get information and process it from your customers, whether verbally or with your Moses tablet skate questionnaire, its a wonder you can do anything, especially sharpen skates(which isn't exactly rocket science although your web page likes to make it sound that way), very well.

BTW, no disrespect to the other sharpeners here on MSH. The hard part is not sharpening skates. The hard part is finding someone who knows what they are doing when they are sharpening skates.

[Fixxer 0]

Why not just hammer rail road ties through the boot and into your feet?

[Vapor 0]

PUMPS circa 1997

[santiclaws 0]

There has got to be something that someone can come up with which is better than laces. Laces are a thousand-year-old technology and I am sick of dealing with them. Far and away the longest part of getting ready for playing is putting on skates. I don't know if BOA is the answer, but there has to be something better than laces. Whoever comes up with it will make a mint.

[Wolfpack_1986 154]

There has got to be something that someone can come up with which is better than laces. Laces are a thousand-year-old technology and I am sick of dealing with them. Far and away the longest part of getting ready for playing is putting on skates. I don't know if BOA is the answer, but there has to be something better than laces. Whoever comes up with it will make a mint.

skates with thongs

[DarkStar50 680]

Lacing up your skates is a ritual of hockey. It is the essence of getting ready to play.

[Fury of One 6]

They should just use velcro straps like kicks back in the 80s. :P

Nevermind, I'm a little lazy, I saw Mack posted that a while back, but it would be a sweet idea....