Drewhunz 3 Report post Posted November 5, 2009 43 soldiers shot, 12 of which have been killed by their brothers. Prayers to all involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeyman11385 1 Report post Posted November 5, 2009 An absolutely horrific incident. Soldiers' lives are tough enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chippa13 1844 Report post Posted November 5, 2009 43 soldiers shot, 12 of which have been killed by their brothers. Prayers to all involved.I wouldn't say to all involved. If the two arrested prove to be guilty then they should let the wounded guys use them for target practice, close range and working in from the hands and feet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ISTOUT 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone at Ft Hood! As if multiple deployments wasn’t hard enough now you have this type of sickness to deal with… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drewhunz 3 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 43 soldiers shot, 12 of which have been killed by their brothers. Prayers to all involved.I wouldn't say to all involved.Goes without saying. That pussy can burn in hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sitzlejd 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 Dammit dammit dammit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeyman11385 1 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 According to msnbc.com, the gunman is still alive and the other two that were being held have since been released.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801/ns/us...rime_and_courts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfpack_1986 154 Report post Posted November 6, 2009 i hope the gunman lives, and then, charge him as a terrorist and send his ass to fucking Guantanamo where they waterboard the shit out him for the rest of his life. just disgusting that someone can do that shit to people who havent done a single thing wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ndlancer95 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 i hope the gunman lives, and then, charge him as a terrorist and send his ass to fucking Guantanamo where they waterboard the shit out him for the rest of his life. just disgusting that someone can do that shit to people who havent done a single thing wrong.Was'nt guantanamo bay to be closed within the year as per order of obama? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rustpot 1 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 Terrible incident, but the guy's alive so they'll get to the bottom I hope.Was'nt guantanamo bay to be closed within the year as per order of obama?Yes, and last I heard Michigan was a destination for the inmates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeyman11385 1 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 Sounds like the guy was freaking out about being deployed to Afghanistan soon. Not sure how shooting up a base solves that problem so there must be something else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drewhunz 3 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 One thing's for certain, Ofc. Kimberly Munley needs to recieve the Presidential Medal of Fredom for her actions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gummer12 134 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 Terrible incident, but the guy's alive so they'll get to the bottom I hope.Was'nt guantanamo bay to be closed within the year as per order of obama?Yes, and last I heard Michigan was a destination for the inmates.Standish Was one of the sites considered, but was removed from the list not too long ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfpack_1986 154 Report post Posted November 8, 2009 they can keep it open for this asshole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie Joe 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 This incident opens a whole can of worms in terms of religion, military screening/testing. Incredible tragedy.Just out of curiosity; will the gunman be charged with military offences or civilian? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3802 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 Court Martial Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drewhunz 3 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 Court Martial no doubt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ISTOUT 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 Since the shooter is active duty military and committed crimes on a military installation he will be charged and tried under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Personally I hope they seek and obtain the penalty of death in his sentence! IMHO after what he did that piece of shit doesn’t deserve the right to live.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie Joe 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 I see.If he is sentenced to death, does the US Military court have to execute the convinct the same as the state or can they sentence outdated methods such as firing squad or garrotting etc? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ISTOUT 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 If he is in fact charged with article Article 118 —Murder under UCMJ he can in fact receive the Maximum punishment of. (1) Article 118(1) or (4) -- Mandatory death. Minimum -- imprisonment for life with eligibility for parole or(2) Article 118(2) or (3)—such punishment other than death as a court-martial may direct. How that death penility is carried out I dont know but it would be carried out via the military.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Race4LastPlace 31 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Military Death Penalty InformationAP: 'Death penalty rare, executions rarer in military.'If he is in fact charged with article Article 118 —Murder under UCMJ he can in fact receive the Maximum punishment of. (1) Article 118(1) or (4) -- Mandatory death. Minimum -- imprisonment for life with eligibility for parole or(2) Article 118(2) or (3)—such punishment other than death as a court-martial may direct. How that death penility is carried out I dont know but it would be carried out via the military..Life without eligibility for parole is an option now. Death penalty is carried out by lethal injection and MUST be ordered and signed to be carried out by the President in order to happen...I think at this point those are the 2 options that will be looked at. Death Penalty/Life without parole. I favor the first one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ISTOUT 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Agreed but the reason I think the death penalty will be perused and will in fact stick in this case were it wasnt in other cases is..The crime he perpetrated was committed during a time of war The crime was perpetrated against multiple fellow American servicemenIMHO I would find it very hard to believe that a panel of fellow soldiers would have a difficult time coming to the 100% agreement needed to execute this slime ball... Lets just hope Obama doesnt fuck it up if they do! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Race4LastPlace 31 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 agree 100%. Just don't want to see this drawn out too long. But with the defense attorney arguing this could be an unfair trial, i would personally rather see justice served swiftly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RecLeagueHero 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Actually, no condition of war exists right now. Nor has a condition of war existed since the end of the second world war. For a condition of war to exist congress would have to have declared war on someone, and that hasn't happened since 1941. Of course there is little doubt he will be sentenced to death. However, with a guy whose ears are far bigger than his balls as president I could entirely see this ending with a life sentence. The only counter balance to that would be with recent electorial set backs I wouldn't imagine Obama would want to give Republican canidates futher ammo in the 2010 elections. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chikinpotpie 137 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Seems to be a Jessica Lynch part deux situationhttp://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/13/us/13hoo...amp;_r=1&hp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
