2011-2012 Suspension thread

[camhockey16 5]

i'm guessing the explanation would be that with ovechkin leaving his feet there was intent to injure or target the head.

With michalek there didn't seem to be any intent - he was just attempting to throw a normal check but since hendricks was crouched down really low it ended up being his head - i dunno thats just my guess.

[Buzz_LightBeer 969]

i'm guessing the explanation would be that with ovechkin leaving his feet there was intent to injure or target the head.

With michalek there didn't seem to be any intent - he was just attempting to throw a normal check but since hendricks was crouched down really low it ended up being his head - i dunno thats just my guess.

+1, he didnt leave his feet, or seems to drive hendricks to the wall too violently, just let his momentum take him into Matt. Penalty, yes. Fine, maybe. Suspension, no.

[Chadd 916]

Three games for Ovechkin on a hit we see 20 times a game is questionable, at best.

[Machinehead2k5 32]

Three games for Ovechkin on a hit we see 20 times a game is questionable, at best.

I don't think I see 20 jumping checks into someone's head in a game...

Michalek should've got a fine for a hit to head/board.

[Chadd 916]

I don't think I see 20 jumping checks into someone's head in a game...

Michalek should've got a fine for a hit to head/board.

I didn't see it as a head shot, looked like a full body check to me. But I had to watch it on my tablet. There are easy a couple dozen times in every game where a player leaves their feet to deliver a check. Some make head contact and others do not.

[Trooper 8]

I didn't see it as a head shot, looked like a full body check to me. But I had to watch it on my tablet. There are easy a couple dozen times in every game where a player leaves their feet to deliver a check. Some make head contact and others do not.

Watched the replay on a big TV, he glances off his shoulder but clearly leaves his feet and the brunt of the contact is shoulder to head. The key I think is he left his feet before the hit, not as a result of the hit which does happen frequently.

[hockeysc23 0]

Looking for outside opinion since I am a Caps fan ... but what I don't get is how Ovie can be suspended for his hit but Michalek gets NOTHING. I think Ovie should've gotten a game for leaving his feet and while the head wasn't the primary target he definitely got Michalek pretty good. But Michalek definintely deserved something because he hit a defensless player in the back of the headhead as he was facing the boards.

Ovie hasn't been suspended since 3/10 and gets 3 games but Bourque who was already suspended this season does a blatant dirty play to the head of Backstrom and gets 5?

Do they really think Ovie's hit was nearly as dirty or suspension worthy as the act Bourque did to Backstrom? I just don't get it.

At least from a Caps fan point of view, definitely seems the NHL has it out for Ovie.

[chippa13 1844]

The point isn't that he hasn't been suspended since 3/10, the point is that he has been suspended/fined 4 times previously in his 6 years.

[Scotty 8]

There's no comparing hits when it comes to this, folks. I'm as big of an Ovi fan as anyone else, but he left his feet and made quite a bit of contact with the head as a result. The NHL is trying to get away from this type of thing and when one of your league's most well-known stars pulls something like that, you treat him like any other player.

Seems as if he's a bit butt-hurt about it and, in my opinion, acting like a bit of a baby as he's now stated that he is removing himself from the All Star Game and Skills Competition this weekend as a result of the suspension.

[hockeysc23 0]

The point isn't that he hasn't been suspended since 3/10, the point is that he has been suspended/fined 4 times previously in his 6 years.

And there has been a lot of debate on it with Caps boards but according to the CBA if someone hasn't had an infraction in 18months they should be treated as a first time offender yet his previous record is being brought in here. That leads to confusion.

There's no comparing hits when it comes to this, folks. I'm as big of an Ovi fan as anyone else, but he left his feet and made quite a bit of contact with the head as a result. The NHL is trying to get away from this type of thing and when one of your league's most well-known stars pulls something like that, you treat him like any other player.

Seems as if he's a bit butt-hurt about it and, in my opinion, acting like a bit of a baby as he's now stated that he is removing himself from the All Star Game and Skills Competition this weekend as a result of the suspension.

I am not trying to say his hit wasn't suspension worthy. He definitely left his feet and got Michalek in the head even though the primary POC was the shoulder. The problem I see with it is that he wasn't treated like any other player. Michalek targeted Hendricks and hit him square in the head with his elbow. He got nothing 0 fines and 0 suspension. There have been countless hits this year similar to Ovie that have gone unsuspended. It appears at least to me that he is being treated not like every other player but his status is the reason he is being targetd.

I personally don't like Ovie skipping out of the ASG either but it does seem he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't lately.

[Trooper 8]

There have been countless hits this year similar to Ovie that have gone unsuspended. It appears at least to me that he is being treated not like every other player but his status is the reason he is being targetd.

His status is probably what has prevented him from getting disciplined for other hits.

[dangle 0]

3 games for Ovie seems a little bit excessive.

It's essentially a 3 game suspension for charging.

I wonder how much revenue the NHL will forfeit with Ovie pulling out of the ASG?

Interesting.

[goblue9280 33]

It's essentially a 3 game suspension for charging.

Not really, he's a repeat offender. Same thing happens in real life, if two guys commit a robbery, the one with the previous record will probably recieve a harsher sentence.

[dangle 0]

Not really, he's a repeat offender.

Wrong. Read the CBA concernIng this matter

[goblue9280 33]

Wrong. Read the CBA concernIng this matter

The CBA rules regarding repeat versus first offender status (18 month rollover) only deal with the determination of salary lost (one days versus one games worth per game suspension). Shanny has every right to consider previous suspensions when deciding the length of suspension, regardless of when they occured.

[chippa13 1844]

I think Shanahan makes that pretty clear when he mentions the number of previous suspensions and fines while explaining each of his rulings.

[str8prostock 1]

I am pretty pissed he took himself out of the ASG !!!

[camhockey16 5]

is it in protest of being suspended?

[chippa13 1844]

According to McPhee, Ovechkin told him that he was suspended and didn't deserve to be there.

[wrangler 157]

"I love the (All-Star) game, it's a great event and I love to be there, but I'm suspended and I don't want to be a target," Ovechkin told Comcast Sportsnet. "I feel that I don't deserve to be there right now. If I'm suspended I have to be suspended, so that's why I gave up my roster (spot).

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=385944

EDIT: Looks like the NHL may have tossed a hint his way:

NHL Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly issued a statement about Ovechkin's All-Star status.

"In light of (Monday)'s suspension, we informed the Capitals that, while Alex Ovechkin was still welcome to participate in this weekend's All-Star festivities in Ottawa, we would not be insisting that he do so," said Daly. "We now understand that Alex has decided to withdraw from this weekend's events. Given the circumstances involved, we understand Mr. Ovechkin's decision in this regard, and have no intention of pursuing this matter further."

[Trooper 8]

It wasn't three for charging, don't try to change the argument. It was three for charging/leaving his feet that led to a head shot. Shannahan is very clear.

As for the all star game, ao sounds like he's pouting. Guy needs a little maturing.

[wrangler 157]

Jumping into an opponent comes under charging in Rule 42.

Regarding the All-Star game, I wonder just how strong the NHL's hint was to Ovechkin. Because of that contact, I wouldn't be too quick to call it pouting.

[Chadd 916]

I'm fine with the charge, if they're going to enforce it that way against everyone. Unfortunately, that is not, and has never been, the way the NHL operates. Ovechkin must have bagged Bettman's daughter, it's the only reasonable explanation for why they seem to single him out. The suspension a couple years ago was suspect as well.

[bar down 1]

the guy sloches then ovie make head contact i only saw 1 game needed

the asg well blow no sid or ovie

[Fire0nIce228 1]

I wonder how much revenue the NHL will forfeit with Ovie pulling out of the ASG?

Interesting.

I'd guess not much.. Everything has been done and paid for and contracts signed with networks and all for quite some time..Tickets are sold, tv deal worked out, sponsors already done.. too late for much of anything now i'd guess