Heel Lock - Help?

[IPv6Freely 2100]

You wont gain width in the heel from an d to an ee. these sizes are for the toe area only;

Really? I thought buying an EE make the entire skate wider. If that's the case, I'll definitely be trying the EE sizes when I look at the Makos and Nexus.

[giogolf 9]

I tried One100s and TOs. The issue is clearly present in TOs 7.5D and 7E/EE (for me). The back story is that I got back into it after 20 yr. I got 7.5D TOs (actually a Xmas present from the wife) thinking they fit. After a while I couldn't take the width anymore. When looking at a wider skate I found I could fit into a 7EE comfortably. After further investigation, 7E was still wide enough, but not as sloppy as the EE. There is absolutely no way I could fit into a 7.0D, that is, before baking for the models I've tried on. Like I said, I don't know if the heel of a D would open up after baking or not. I don't have the inside info on Supreme construction, just know what I've tried and what fit/didn't fit.

your heel will settle in deeper after backing which results in a touch more length. If you are brushing the toe caps slightly before baking you probably will not feel the toe cap after baking and break in period.

Baking will not cure issues with heel sizing. If you are busting out of certain model you will probably need to try something else on.

I never heard of single "e" width in Bauer unless its custom, that being said the heel will remain the same size regardless. But if you go custom I think you have 2 or 3 heel width options depending on the model.

[smcgreg 81]

your heel will settle in deeper after backing which results in a touch more length. If you are brushing the toe caps slightly before baking you probably will not feel the toe cap after baking and break in period.

Baking will not cure issues with heel sizing. If you are busting out of certain model you will probably need to try something else on.

I never heard of single "e" width in Bauer unless its custom, that being said the heel will remain the same size regardless. But if you go custom I think you have 2 or 3 heel width options depending on the model.

Yeah, the E was prostock custom. Not custom for me, but evidently somebody with a foot like mine.

[giogolf 9]

Really? I thought buying an EE make the entire skate wider. If that's the case, I'll definitely be trying the EE sizes when I look at the Makos and Nexus.

Yes in my experience unless custom ordered the heel width remains the same width regardless of toe width. If you notice pro stock skates will have a size described like this 7 D/AA or 7 EE/A... The A is the heel width.

[Chadd 916]

Yes in my experience unless custom ordered the heel width remains the same width regardless of toe width. If you notice pro stock skates will have a size described like this 7 D/AA or 7 EE/A... The A is the heel width.

That is not correct, most wide skates will come with a wider heel as well. Most retail skates used to come marked the same way.

[wrangler 157]

When I tried on Vapors and Supremes, the wider widths seemed wider everywhere.

[t6lock 24]

i've had an issue for a while, solved it temporarily with bunga pads but was wondering if its ok to rebake my 1 skate. heres the scenario

i previously had x40's, perfect fitting no problems whatsoever. after a year, i bought a pair of pro stock x60's. everything was going well then a few months in i noticed my right heel slipping a little bit. i bought same size skates, 6.5. so then i notice that the footbed in the right skate is actually cut short so if i push it all the way up to the toes, theres about 1cm of space between the footbed heel and the back of the boot. is it possible that when i baked them i baked them with my foot a little forward inside the boot? and is it possible that a rebake will help fix this? i've been using the bunga pad for about 6 months now and its starting to break down a bit.

again, never had any problems with my x40's i skated on for more than a year. except lace bite i quickly fixed. developed a bigger haglund bump on my right heel than my left using the x60's

[boo10 323]

i've had an issue for a while, solved it temporarily with bunga pads but was wondering if its ok to rebake my 1 skate. heres the scenario

i previously had x40's, perfect fitting no problems whatsoever. after a year, i bought a pair of pro stock x60's. everything was going well then a few months in i noticed my right heel slipping a little bit. i bought same size skates, 6.5. so then i notice that the footbed in the right skate is actually cut short so if i push it all the way up to the toes, theres about 1cm of space between the footbed heel and the back of the boot. is it possible that when i baked them i baked them with my foot a little forward inside the boot? and is it possible that a rebake will help fix this? i've been using the bunga pad for about 6 months now and its starting to break down a bit.

again, never had any problems with my x40's i skated on for more than a year. except lace bite i quickly fixed. developed a bigger haglund bump on my right heel than my left using the x60's

Funny, the three pairs of Vapor's that I've worn all pinched the back of my right heel when the skate was flexed fully forward. I've actually developed chronic achilles tendinitis from it. I've never had this with any other skate that I've worn for the past 37 years. I wonder if there is something funny with the last that Bauer uses for Vapor's?

[IPv6Freely 2100]

Well I was going to try the Stable26 socks, but it looks like they aren't making them anymore or something.

[smcgreg 81]

Well I was going to try the Stable26 socks, but it looks like they aren't making them anymore or something.

Really? That sucks. Read my review of the Makos as you may be interested. That being said, I found that I still need the Stables in my Makos. I just got a couple pairs in Jan. Damn!

[Cheetodust 4]

I noticed the same thing about the Stable26 socks not being available any longer. I just bought a pair of Makos and the fit is amazing but my right foot is slightly smaller than my left. Left foot fits perfect and never moves but after playing a period or 2 my right foot starts to move around in the skate. A size down and my toes were curled on both feet so I know the size is as good as it can be without going custum. Now that the Stable 26 socks are not available does anyone have a suggestion? Not trying to hijack the thread but thought the answer may help others too. Thanks!

[oldtrainerguy28 478]

They are available just need to find the retailers that have them. E-mail the company.

[IPv6Freely 2100]

Is this something a fitter should be able to recognize, or would I have to bring it up? Can they tell by looking at my feet that I under pronate?

[SirJW 207]

Optimus - I don't recall, have you been to Jakes in El Segundo?

[Hockeydog 8]

I have a righht foot slighly smaller than left so I have always had this issue. Either I cram the left foot by fitting to the right,or I get a bit of extra space in the shorter foot by fitting to the left foot. I mostly solved my heel lift issue on the shorter foot by using a heel cushion made for womens shoes. It's just a strip of padding with adhesive backing. I stuck mine on the back inside of the skate right where the back of my foot is curved in the most. Also used waxed laces.

Chadd - you mentioned memory foam and glue. Can you elaborate? Where can I get this foam, and what kind of glue to I need?

Any special instructions on application? Thanks.

[giogolf 9]

I have a righht foot slighly smaller than left so I have always had this issue. Either I cram the left foot by fitting to the right,or I get a bit of extra space in the shorter foot by fitting to the left foot. I mostly solved my heel lift issue on the shorter foot by using a heel cushion made for womens shoes. It's just a strip of padding with adhesive backing. I stuck mine on the back inside of the skate right where the back of my foot is curved in the most. Also used waxed laces.

Chadd - you mentioned memory foam and glue. Can you elaborate? Where can I get this foam, and what kind of glue to I need?

Any special instructions on application? Thanks.

My inner ankle bones are pretty far forward and usually end up closer to the eyelets where the ankle padding is lacking.. so to combat this I found that placing thin gel pads on my inner ankle bones then socks over provide the perfect amount of comfort.

I went to walmart and purchased "foot ball gel pads", they are tacky enough to just press against my ankle and stay in place under my skate socks. They never move, cause no blisters and add just enough protection over my bone to reduce nerve pain and bursitis.

[IPv6Freely 2100]

Optimus - I don't recall, have you been to Jakes in El Segundo?

I have not. That's quite a hike for me.

I have a righht foot slighly smaller than left so I have always had this issue. Either I cram the left foot by fitting to the right,or I get a bit of extra space in the shorter foot by fitting to the left foot. I mostly solved my heel lift issue on the shorter foot by using a heel cushion made for womens shoes. It's just a strip of padding with adhesive backing. I stuck mine on the back inside of the skate right where the back of my foot is curved in the most. Also used waxed laces.

Chadd - you mentioned memory foam and glue. Can you elaborate? Where can I get this foam, and what kind of glue to I need?

Any special instructions on application? Thanks.

Look at ezeefit ankle booties. I wore a pair in my last game (our championship) and was probably the first time I skated without foot pain. It pretty much proves that my skates are too big ;)

But you might find they help even your feet out if you just wear it on your smaller foot. Ideally you'd be better off with skates that fit your smaller foot better and then stretching the other boot, but if you've already bought them, then the ezeefits might work for you.

[Hockeydog 8]

Look at ezeefit ankle booties

I have some, and they didn't help that much. Just having that heel cushion on the right spot seems to help a lot. Somehow having something over my entire foot neutralizes the effect. Ice warehouse sells some pads made by Elite that I bought and will try if my heel cushion loses its adhesive. Right now I don't want to mess with it as it works. Thanks for the idea though !!

[Zorlac 22]

When I tried on Vapors and Supremes, the wider widths seemed wider everywhere.

This is ABSOLETELY true! I have 11ks in E and Vapors 7s in EE and BOTH (sadly) are wider throughout the boot, including (unfortunately) the heel.

THE ONLY way I found to combat this issue (other than custom) was to DROP from a 6.5 to a size 6. That fixed the loose heel, but took several weeks of hockey and a few bakes before my toes FINALLY came off the caps... Next skates for me will CERTAINLY be custom made.

[romdj 26]

Well I was going to try the Stable26 socks, but it looks like they aren't making them anymore or something.

you may want to try ezeefit as well, I know they solved the issue quite often in my regards

[stick9 903]

This is ABSOLETELY true! I have 11ks in E and Vapors 7s in EE and BOTH (sadly) are wider throughout the boot, including (unfortunately) the heel.

THE ONLY way I found to combat this issue (other than custom) was to DROP from a 6.5 to a size 6. That fixed the loose heel, but took several weeks of hockey and a few bakes before my toes FINALLY came off the caps... Next skates for me will CERTAINLY be custom made.

Not surprised to hear a wider width would be wider in the heal as well.

You shouldn't have to cram your foot in a smaller size, that creates a whole new set of problems. As the skate breaks in that heel is going to open up a bit. The most logical way is to find a skate that designed with a narrower heel or one that is designed with greater heel lock.

[IPv6Freely 2100]

you may want to try ezeefit as well, I know they solved the issue quite often in my regards

Read 3 posts above yours :)

[donkers 31]

I pretty much have skated my whole life without the perfect heel lock I don't really think it's that big of a deal.

[IPv6Freely 2100]

I pretty much have skated my whole life without the perfect heel lock I don't really think it's that big of a deal.

That must be wonderful for you. Unfortunately it causes a lot of pain for other people.

[donkers 31]

How would a loose heel cause pain? Shouldn't it be the opposite?