SILVER82 8 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 I know people in the know might not be able to answer this question but is the holder the only new!! thing with the new boot? Anything new to the actual boot? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtrainerguy28 478 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 On 6/28/2019 at 1:28 PM, SILVER82 said: I know people in the know might not be able to answer this question but is the holder the only new!! thing with the new boot? Anything new to the actual boot? Read more No its not just the holder. The boot is lighter by a lot. They use a new style of carbon fiber that is lighter and stronger. The new tongue is lighter and more protective as well as way more comfortable and allows even more forward flexion than a traditional tongue. The new holder and quick release blade system are lighter with a faster and more reliable quick release system (Plus other cool features of the blade and holder) All in all the boot holder is now 110 grams lighter! Details available July 15th. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SILVER82 8 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 On 6/28/2019 at 4:04 PM, oldtrainerguy28 said: No its not just the holder. The boot is lighter by a lot. They use a new style of carbon fiber that is lighter and stronger. The new tongue is lighter and more protective as well as way more comfortable and allows even more forward flexion than a traditional tongue. The new holder and quick release blade system are lighter with a faster and more reliable quick release system (Plus other cool features of the blade and holder) All in all the boot holder is now 110 grams lighter! Details available July 15th. Read more wow that is a lot of new. I think that will quiet a lot of the complaints with regards to weight. Does anyone know if the July date will just be a release of info or will stores actually have them available then to see and potentially order? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dnoboy 5 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 I believe the updated boot is already in production? I received my custom boot this week (waiting on TUUKS to get installed) and it felt surprisingly light to me. Not much heavier than my 1X boot i'm quite certain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper9 537 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 On 6/28/2019 at 4:04 PM, oldtrainerguy28 said: No its not just the holder. The boot is lighter by a lot. They use a new style of carbon fiber that is lighter and stronger. The new tongue is lighter and more protective as well as way more comfortable and allows even more forward flexion than a traditional tongue. The new holder and quick release blade system are lighter with a faster and more reliable quick release system (Plus other cool features of the blade and holder) All in all the boot holder is now 110 grams lighter! Details available July 15th. Read more Do you know if the new carbon is already being used or is it specifically starting on orders mid July onwards (when they release the actual new features publicly). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flip12 720 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 On 6/28/2019 at 4:04 PM, oldtrainerguy28 said: All in all the boot holder is now 110 grams lighter!. Read more 110 grams and what was the size? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtrainerguy28 478 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 On 6/28/2019 at 5:59 PM, flip12 said: 110 grams and what was the size? Read more Probably an 8 or 9 but it would be in the same proportion going up and down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtrainerguy28 478 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 On 6/28/2019 at 5:46 PM, Sniper9 said: Do you know if the new carbon is already being used or is it specifically starting on orders mid July onwards (when they release the actual new features publicly). Read more I dont know how to multi quote so .... Some pros are getting it now but for production its July 15th 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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smcgreg 81 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 On 6/28/2019 at 8:08 PM, althoma1 said: Read more Less imitation? Hmm.... that back end looks a lot like another skate.... which one?? Hmmm.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hollowicked 39 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 any word on price point increasing with changes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper9 537 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 On 6/28/2019 at 8:08 PM, althoma1 said: Read more Looks like the release system might be the blue part pushing in from side to side to lock/unlock? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper9 537 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 On 6/28/2019 at 8:30 PM, smcgreg said: Less imitation? Hmm.... that back end looks a lot like another skate.... which one?? Hmmm.... Read more You mean the holder? Only thing that looks kind of similar is the design around the vents of the holder seems similar to the xs/SB 4.0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtrainerguy28 478 Report post Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) On 6/28/2019 at 10:48 PM, Sniper9 said: You mean the holder? Only thing that looks kind of similar is the design around the vents of the holder seems similar to the xs/SB 4.0 Read more Up close it looks liken no other skate out there. And the blade comes out so much easier and locks in better than anything else. And I'm a huge fan of the new XS holder. I would have said the XS would have taken over if this one had not have come out. I know @Nicholas G agrees. The only issue I can see at this early time is that it may only be available from a True Dealer.......but I am not sure that's set in stone yet. Edited June 28, 2019 by oldtrainerguy28 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smcgreg 81 Report post Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/28/2019 at 10:48 PM, Sniper9 said: You mean the holder? Only thing that looks kind of similar is the design around the vents of the holder seems similar to the xs/SB 4.0 Read more Um no. The heel of old Trues vs the heel of the new Trues, see the difference? What does it look like? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper9 537 Report post Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 12:43 AM, smcgreg said: Um no. The heel of old Trues vs the heel of the new Trues, see the difference? What does it look like? Read more Looks the same to me. Carbon fibre with resin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smcgreg 81 Report post Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 12:43 AM, smcgreg said: Um no. The heel of old Trues vs the heel of the new Trues, see the difference? What does it look like? Read more After looking at it again, maybe you're right. The picture made it look more like a mako heel, but I think it's just the lighting or something. Nevermind.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cavs019 710 Report post Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) Glad the EQMs like it - but again, there’s no chance that thing gets installed on Bauer and CCMs at scale. Edited June 29, 2019 by Cavs019 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VegasHockey 1284 Report post Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 2:38 AM, Cavs019 said: Glad the EQMs like it - but again, there’s no chance that thing gets installed on Bauer and CCMs at scale. Read more Never say never. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flip12 720 Report post Posted June 29, 2019 I don’t care enough about holder looks to have it sway what I’ll use, but having said that, I think the new holder looks messy and complicated compared to the Step/VH holder. I thought that one looked really nice overall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gosinger 122 Report post Posted June 29, 2019 A lighter boot and different tongue would be great - I can't fit mine (granted, second hand) with the default tongue. And the "other cool feature" of the holder might be a pitch adjustment system or similar, something people without access to a blade profiler would appreciate 🙂 So this has convinced me, I'll wait with ordering my own True skate until the new one is in production. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SILVER82 8 Report post Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 7:32 AM, gosinger said: A lighter boot and different tongue would be great - I can't fit mine (granted, second hand) with the default tongue. And the "other cool feature" of the holder might be a pitch adjustment system or similar, something people without access to a blade profiler would appreciate 🙂 So this has convinced me, I'll wait with ordering my own True skate until the new one is in production. Read more Has pitch adjustment ever been a feature on a holder before? Seems like a pretty smart idea Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cavs019 710 Report post Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) Mission Pitch circa 2004ish Edited June 29, 2019 by Cavs019 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Larry54 243 Report post Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 2:22 AM, smcgreg said: After looking at it again, maybe you're right. The picture made it look more like a mako heel, but I think it's just the lighting or something. Nevermind.... Read more But the Mako was derived from the MLX which was designed by Scott Van Horne. So do you consider imitating your own design imitation? 🤔 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smcgreg 81 Report post Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/29/2019 at 2:45 PM, Larry54 said: But the Mako was derived from the MLX which was designed by Scott Van Horne. So do you consider imitating your own design imitation? 🤔 Read more Yes, but I can't copy and paste myself in a publication... that's plagiarism. Just saying. Seriously though, yes, I know and I was kind of thinking the same thing, but at the end of the day Mako and True (VH) are two different skate lines, so, one would be imitating the other if the scenario played out. heck it would be very nice if somebody would simply imitate makos for real so I don't need to keep scouring the web for 5 yr old "new" skates for my kids. Oh well... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
