VH Footwear/TRUE by Scott Van Horne

[smu 29]

20 minutes ago, mc88 said:

 

 

Yea, I really did not know what it was about and I see how it is done now thanks for the trouble.

 

Alan

[mc88 160]

Pretty easy to install. Seems like the white replacements are the only ones available within the U.S. (online), so I had to improvise with a sharpie. Huge thanks to HockeyGiant for hooking me up with some spares they had lying around!

 

Edited April 2, 2016 by mc88

[syinx 139]

Oakley hardware all day, every day.

[decoy 164]

Jyrki Jokipakka

 

[All Flash 49]

Pertaining to the CCM lace locks.... for best inside skate results use the RBK female helmet bits. They are the slimmest and will cause the least amount of problems.

[ccarrigan 2]

Is there a maximum you would heat mold portions (or all of) this skate? I've been dealing with some lateral shifting and new orthopedic insoles and didn't want to heat it too many times. So far I've done the initial bake, secondary bake, and two heel lock specific heatings (back portion).

[smu 29]

21 hours ago, All Flash said:

Pertaining to the CCM lace locks.... for best inside skate results use the RBK female helmet bits. They are the slimmest and will cause the least amount of problems.

 

The idea of having the

21 hours ago, All Flash said:

Pertaining to the CCM lace locks.... for best inside skate results use the RBK female helmet bits. They are the slimmest and will cause the least amount of problems.

 

It seems to be beneficial to have the lace locks, but what is meant by the female helmet parts. I may sound like an idiot asking now, but I don't to sound like one when I go to the LHS.

 

Thanks,

 

Alan

[AfftonDad 88]

On ‎3‎/‎31‎/‎2016 at 1:31 PM, smu said:

Supposedly if your center of gravity is directly over your blades then you could be over pronated or Supinated and you should still not need to shim your skates.

 

That's why I am saying we are shimming our skates to get us to that COG point. The more we play with inside medial heel shims or outside lateral shims it gets our center of gravity close to that sweet spot!.

 

VH tells me that they have had very very few problems with the remote fitting (unless they have not been told), but they have hardly had any involvement with issues out of 4000 pairs of skates!

 

I need more feed back people as I hope to order next week and I am having the older LS2 holder (LHS indicated a better holder) installed with the ability to put step steel in or the the other more expensive Black Steel. I also want two heel shims to compensate for the low pitch on the Bauer and I may ask for an added 2-3 mm heel lifts to get that forward feeling.

VH has been very accommodating to me!

 

Are there any light players out there?

 

I want to add their protection package but I am only 130 lbs and 5'5' tall? Will this be too strong for me, as well I will be ordering the suggested second tongue.

 

Alan

 

I'm with you Alan... I came from Makos and wanted to keep the extreme forward pitch on my VHs so I had CXN holders put on them. With the demise of the Mako/CXN, I asked VH what shim I would need on my next pair to emulate the CXN holder. They replied that they use a 1/8" (3.125mm) shim to emulate CXN holders . So on my next pair, I'll get them that way.

[Monty22 832]

Alan  ,  look at  bolt and nut. Now think about male and female reproductive parts. The bolt is male, the nut is the "female" piece. 

[IPv6Freely 2092]

50 minutes ago, smu said:

 

The idea of having the

 

It seems to be beneficial to have the lace locks, but what is meant by the female helmet parts. I may sound like an idiot asking now, but I don't to sound like one when I go to the LHS.

 

Thanks,

 

Alan

The silver part.

 

[smu 29]

1 hour ago, Monty22 said:

Alan  ,  look at  bolt and nut. Now think about male and female reproductive parts. The bolt is male, the nut is the "female" piece. 

 

Thanks Monty, but I got that part. Why the reference to a female helmet?

[smu 29]

1 hour ago, AfftonDad said:

I'm with you Alan... I came from Makos and wanted to keep the extreme forward pitch on my VHs so I had CXN holders put on them. With the demise of the Mako/CXN, I asked VH what shim I would need on my next pair to emulate the CXN holder. They replied that they use a 1/8" (3.125mm) shim to emulate CXN holders . So on my next pair, I'll get them that way.

 

I have been told by my LHS to get the older Bauer LS2 as they keep the blade more stable and Rob said OK also I am told they will take the Step Steel or the Black Steel. I am not sure if the Lightspeed holder will. I now have about 2.5 mm on my Bauer heels and can't wait until tomorrow to see what they are like, I did have them on my older Bauers about 3 years ago and don't know why I did not put them on the next pair. Rob can give me that lift if I want it so that I can stay with a long lasting LS2 holder, but get the pitch I want. Maybe Rob was thinking of my future order as he just replied on April 1st that he can do what I wanted.

 

Good luck with yours!

 

Alan

[All Flash 49]

........ my bad.

Edited April 4, 2016 by All Flash

[smu 29]

8 minutes ago, All Flash said:

........ my bad.

 

What part?

[Monty22 832]

1 hour ago, smu said:

 

Thanks Monty, but I got that part. Why the reference to a female helmet?

 

They were talking helmet/cage hardware, not women specific helmets.  

[smu 29]

18 minutes ago, Monty22 said:

 

They were talking helmet/cage hardware, not women specific helmets.  

 

Stupid me! Could not understand why they would be different anyway, but...

 

Cheers.

 

Alan

[methosb 5]

21 hours ago, ccarrigan said:

Is there a maximum you would heat mold portions (or all of) this skate? I've been dealing with some lateral shifting and new orthopedic insoles and didn't want to heat it too many times. So far I've done the initial bake, secondary bake, and two heel lock specific heatings (back portion).

Best to email Scott. I previously asked him if there is a limit to the number of times you can reheat and he said there is none. But I hadn't reheated as many times as you. 

[AfftonDad 88]

Man... you guys handled that whole female/male thing with a lot more decorum than I would have expected.

[smu 29]

1 hour ago, AfftonDad said:

Man... you guys handled that whole female/male thing with a lot more decorum than I would have expected.

 

It was nothing, we could have spent quite of few post on it, but thought, better not.

 

I still feel stupid, but I did think perhaps there might be a new product out there!

 

Also, it's just kidding around. At least I know what to order now; a black male part and a chrome female part, right?

 

Cheers,

 

Alan

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Mikael Granlund

[Bbd94 26]

Anyone have trouble with heel lock on any of their pairs? I didn't notice it too much (I got them in August and was psyched I didn't have any more pain) but I'm now seeing that I have to tie my skate much tighter than my left, and my heel is still slipping a bit. 

 

I baked them for the second time and tried to use a ratchet clamp but it wouldn't hold.

 

Any recommendations? My right ankle is substantially smaller than my left, and I don't really get a good heel lock even in shoes, now that I think about it.  I use wax laces too. Maybe find a really small ratchet clamp? Mine was a 6 inch with paddles bigger than my thumbs, but didn't have rotating heads. I'm currently sitting on the issue and while I love the pain free bit, this is bothering me as of late.

 

 

[smu 29]

On 2016-04-04 at 3:22 PM, AfftonDad said:

I'm with you Alan... I came from Makos and wanted to keep the extreme forward pitch on my VHs so I had CXN holders put on them. With the demise of the Mako/CXN, I asked VH what shim I would need on my next pair to emulate the CXN holder. They replied that they use a 1/8" (3.125mm) shim to emulate CXN holders . So on my next pair, I'll get them that way.

 

I played today and before the game I took a closer look at the heel shims. They seemed to be not as much as I had anticipated. I was using "puckboard" and to me it tended to squish or flatten a bit with the rivets. My game had some of my regular falls, usually turning with backward movements things that I could do at one time like playing with the puck near or between my skates, but I did not really notice much of a difference in the pitch although it really was there, just not much.

 

I have just measured the shims and they were about 2.75 mm and I went and got the material that came off my older Bauers, the first time I had heel lifts and they measure out at  3.25 mm. I can remember with that I did have a better feeling with a forward pitch. The material appears to be from the Ultra High Density plastic and would resist the flattening effect that I experienced today. So, I did not use the original pieces that were on the skate 3 years ago and if I have time I am going to have the better 3.25 mm heel shims installed as it was great with my older Bauers (all the same setup).

 

On another note and looking for some help. Most of my problems have all occurred since my first bad issue with Sciatica in 2007 then another in 2012 that has not left me, so some issues ongoing. I have been told by my first chiropractor that he feels I have about 6 mm or more of right leg shortening even though an X-ray (while standing) showed negative for a short leg! Over the past 5 or 6 games I have had the 6 mm shims under my right skate and did not feel any real difference.

 

Regarding the X-Ray, my Chiropractor says it was supposed to be done while you are laying down to show how your pelvis and spine etc react with out the weight. The Chiropractor was still convinced that I had a "functional" short leg and to order the VH Skate with a 6 mm lift because of the other possible problems all caused by Sciatica.

 

I then get a second opinion from a Podiatrist (specialist from the foot to the sacrum) and he felt my leg length was fine but my observed gait, that appeared to be off, he was convinced that it was all to do with my right hip "reduced internal rotation" that would cause my perceived problem.

 

I thought of both the Leg Length Descrepancy and the hip issue today while skating. I did notice that making very sharp 2 legged turns, as if to shake a checker off, my right (possibly short, real or functional) did not seem to want to dig into the ice and I was relying on my left leg to make for the most part to make the turn!. I believe this is the first time I have had or noticed this problem.

 

Is it my hip or is it the possibility that my spine or pelvis is the problem (causing shorth Leg?). Hard to answer.

 

Before I order skates I would like to get this clear, but the only way as I am told is by a CT scan and months of waiting, while the Chiropractor indicates it should be done by a Scanogram. In any event you are laying down. but there still may be a difference between the 2 pieces of equipment!

 

I am really getting frustrated. I thought I would have the VH Skate by February and here it is approaching May!

 

I was just wondering if anyone has heard of issues like mine. I was a great skater, less so a scorer, but I felt good prior to 2007. Now I am always chasing down problems and have learned a hell of a lot about all types of issues, but can't nail mine down after days and days of research and appointments over the past 9 years!.

 

Yes I have some over pronation in both feet that can be addressed and skates that will fit well. I can see where I can have my pitch corrected so I can still stay with the trusted Bauer LSD holder and perhaps use better steel. VH will do what ever I want, but does it matter very much if my pelvis is pulling my right leg up? If so I would just go with the built in lift, but I cannot take it out, but, perhaps I always could put it on later.

 

My apologies for the long one and my thanks for the help.

I will let you know how the increase of the heel lift goes this Thursday.

 

Cheers :)

 

Alan

Edited April 5, 2016 by smu
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[oldtrainerguy28 478]

Alan,

Seeing as you know what you can do to fix the issue down the road......and having no concrete proof of what the issue is for sure. I would order the skates stock. nothing done at all to them. And simply try them out. period.

 

You can add lifts and if need be shims for leg length very easily.  I would simply order the skates and see how they feel.

[methosb 5]

12 hours ago, Bbd94 said:

Anyone have trouble with heel lock on any of their pairs? I didn't notice it too much (I got them in August and was psyched I didn't have any more pain) but I'm now seeing that I have to tie my skate much tighter than my left, and my heel is still slipping a bit. 

 

I baked them for the second time and tried to use a ratchet clamp but it wouldn't hold.

 

Any recommendations? My right ankle is substantially smaller than my left, and I don't really get a good heel lock even in shoes, now that I think about it.  I use wax laces too. Maybe find a really small ratchet clamp? Mine was a 6 inch with paddles bigger than my thumbs, but didn't have rotating heads. I'm currently sitting on the issue and while I love the pain free bit, this is bothering me as of late.

 

 

I had heel problems. I used a smaller clamp to squeeze in the Achilles just above the heel which created little heel locking bumps to hold my heels down. 

 

You could also try Stable 26 socks if necessary. 

[Bbd94 26]

5 hours ago, methosb said:

I had heel problems. I used a smaller clamp to squeeze in the Achilles just above the heel which created little heel locking bumps to hold my heels down. 

 

You could also try Stable 26 socks if necessary. 

 

Where did you find the clamp? I bought one but it doesn't sit flat, just pinches and then falls off. Can you do this without baking? Like hit it with a heat gun? 

 

Thanks again