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  2. On sideline swap, sort by the size you need, and just take time browsing. There’s a ton of good pants from college, juniors, and minors teams that are less expensive than ones with NHL branding. It takes some time to learn about what different codes mean, but you’ll good about yourself once you start to learn some of the codes and are able to visually identify stuff. Patience and paying attention are your friends. Resources are out there, but a lot of it is piecing together different info from different places.
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  4. Warrior covert 8" fit my son the best, some of the Bauer lines are more tapered as well. I've seen people use clear tape on the cuffs as well to make them fight tighter without losing the ability of taking them on and off. I have seen one person with the old school mitten string behind the back under the gear attached to each glove but that doesn't keep them from coming off, just not hitting the ice when they do
  5. Has anyone ordered custom CCM sticks thru RG Hockey? Curious what the experience was like It's rather tempting given the options available.
  6. CCM's P14 is the same as Bauer PM9 which is the base curve for P46. It's just a PM9 shape with shaved toe and P92 curve with a tiny bit of toe added. Bauer's P14 has some similarities, but it's much more aggressive in both its toe rocker and curve depth. Not sure about P77. Can't think of any other than the Sher-Wood Coffey, but isn't that obsolete today? Pro Stock Hockey Sticks offers P46. If you really love that curve, that's probably your best bet.
  7. Now when I searched there were more options. Interestingly enough, both Bauer Nexus and CCM HP45 pro stock have the belly flap. These pants all look very solid.
  8. What are equivalents to the p46? I’ve seen p14 and p77 recommended the most, but they seem like different curves. How does the p46 compare to those 2?
  9. PIAS would be my first stop, or possibly the pre-packaged starter kits? those gloves likely run very small I'm sure a few models of 8" run tighter as well. Worst case let them learn in some thick winter mittens until they grow
  10. There are various places online that you can get new pro stock pants, but I've only ever bought used ones on eBay or Sideline Swap. I've found it better to identify the model of pants you want, for example "CCM HP45", and search for that. If you only search for pro stock, you often are missing a good number of options. With both Sideline Swap and eBay you can set up alerts to get notified of new items that get listed that match what you are looking for. With a bit of patience, I've had good success getting specific model and color used pants still in good shape for under $100. You can pay $50-$100 more, but I'd rather save the money. And by "save the money" I mean fund other hockey equipment purchases. That being said, if you have your heart set on an exact color/version that is uncommon it can take a lot of patience and a lot more money depending on what it is (like specific outdoor game or specialty colorways).
  11. Yes, they are a bit more streamlined, countered to the body without being too tight. Both the 3S and Mach fit me very well. I also tried the XF Pro and Jetspeed Pro, but they were smaller in the same size and going up in size made them too long. Quality pants though.
  12. How do you get a hold of pro stock pants exactly? I've only looked a little bit on sidelineswap and it was mostly pants that were quite worn, from the less popular teams.
  13. I know what you mean, but there is no padding anywhere in that region, it is just the closure system, which is very thin. I bought the pants, I'll try to get a picture of it. There is less protection in that area. However, I do not think it will cause any big gaps. Last game (I paid more attention than I ever have to that region and) I noticed that the flap of the 3S pants overlap quite a bit with the extension pad (bottom) of my Ultrasonic shoulder pads, when you are in a skating position. Overall, the pants are very nice and I am happy with them.
  14. I know that this is long shot but is anyone aware of any 7" gloves available anywhere? Apparently JAMM made some at one point and have been discontinued or is anyone aware of any other brands that made them at one time? My boys started their learn to skate/play last week and their 8" gloves keep falling off their hands which I think is contributing to their frustration and on-ice tantrums.
  15. Hello all! Recently bought the new FS1s and returned them due to sizing issues. I've worn an 8D in the Fz0's and Wm01's. This FS1 pair felt slightly shorter, enough to go from brushing the toe box to being slightly crunched, enough to the point that baking would not solve the problem. I'm waiting till 8.5 comes back in stock to try again, but I am concerned what a roomier skate will feel like. Has anyone else noticed this change? It has to be due to the new fit system finally making its way to roller.
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  17. The Mach and the 3s pro are two different fitting pants
  18. If you're gonna be spending money on machs or any top end retail pants for that matter and are looking for good protection, you should strongly consider getting pro stock pants like the bauer nexus or ccm hp45. They will be generally cheaper than retail and way better quality and protection. If you have to get retail, I would steer away form Bauer. Their retail protective is really lacking, even their top end models.
  19. The ribs are APX/X7.0 style (X90 continued that configuration); X:60's ribs were more Porsche 911 compared to the X7.0 Lamborghini slashes. As for fit, I wonder if you could order them in Fits 1-3 or if it's all via the Length Forefoot/Heel paradigm. I've seen plenty of pro customs with the L F/H markings and none with F1-3. That doesn't mean they don't exist though. Depending on what did or didn't work for your fit in specific generations of Vapors I'd think a proper custom order would take care of it, if Mosocas are still offered. Vapor up until recently was always low volume, but the little changes to forefoot sidewall shape, toe cap version, or tongue thickness could nudge a player one way or the other. Mosocas weren't subject to this though, since they were never retail. There was possibly a more standard package offered to teams at lower purchasing levels, but specs could be made to tune the fit. Prostockhockey had a ton of Duncan Keith Mosocas in at one point a few years ago. The big difference that stood out between pairs was the toe caps. All of them were represented: the original shaggy Vapor toe caps from 8 - XXX, the naked toe caps from XXXX - 1X (both of them), and the Twiggy toe caps from the 2X Pro. Tongues and liners could be further specified if desired, and I think maybe even internal padding types and thicknesses could as well if I'm not mistaken. Naturally, with so many variables, it's a complicated spec space to navigate.
  20. To add to what Davideo posted above, I think the two areas you should be comparing are what I circled in yellow on the modified picture below.
  21. the original person who was using them IS a goalie and we were looking the other way. it didn't become an issue until a position player said, "but what about MMMEEEEE?????" and we consider that a safety issue. the goalie got a little pissy about it until he figured out that he just needed to talk to us about it. I figure sooner or later, a position player will try the same thing for real and we'll deal with it then.
  22. Based on the pictures you show, it also seem to be comparing different areas. Both have similar sized, small foam flaps above the belt. I think it's mostly just the cut of the padding above the waist that makes it appear different.
  23. Here is a photo of what I had added. You can fold it down and it will protect the lower area as you were wanting of fold it up to protect that area between your shoulder pads and pants.
  24. It’s mostly just there for some cushion behind the belt buckle, so you’ll be fine. David Tomášek of the Edmonton oilers uses the Tackla Breezer 3D prozone girdle. https://tackla.eu/tuote/tackla-breezer-3d-prozone-icehockey-girdle-sr/ it has crazy amounts of padding everywhere except for the lower abdomen which is not padded at all.
  25. I just tried an ACP Pro girdle last night and noticed it didn't have any padding there either, my Super Tacks one has a little something, but like swede said, I don't think that little padding there is doing much anyways. I didn't notice it missing while playing last night.
  26. I have almost the same pants, Supreme 3S and the flap isn't very thick, but there is at least something there, even if it is a placebo effect. I never noticed it get in the way though. Thanks for the explanation! I figured it had to be something like that, because they would not remove it, if it was important. The pants have tons of protection every else, way beyond what the 3S offers. So it wouldn't make sense to skimp there. I will get a pair and see how it goes.
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