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TL:DR...Bauer fanboy comes into True thread to complain that True fanboys aren't impartial. True fanboys say shut up poopie head! All kidding aside, True, Bauer, CCM and even Graf have positives and negatives. Just accept that everyone has different preferences and priorities. It's great to discuss gear and give our opinions, but stop telling people they're wrong, as it serves no purpose other than to make you look like a jerk.

He's kind of politely telling you its obvious you're ruining a thread for whatever gratification it is you get from making comments that rile people up.

masking tape is not used to hold anything together, it goes between the last and the skate during production and is then coated over. The skate is in no capacity held together by tape, and if you saw the manufacturing process you would understand. In regards to rivets, the specific instance you are quoting is referring to a customer who replaced holders multiple times, which in these instances it is pretty common to have to be a bit more precise with rivet length to ensure they do not come loose once multiple holes have been drilled / expanded in the boot. The actual shape of the carbon has been altered since Scott's 2013/14 version of the skates to provide better torsional resistance which virtually solved the rivet issue, and they also developed that insole layer a couple other fitters are referring to as an even bigger solution. I have had zero rivet issues in the last year in customers that kept their original holders and air out their skates properly, so I do not think it is fair to say True has not addressed the issues. Every time I receive a skate I see something that has been improved upon. I can not attest to the quality of other shops, but if improper rivet size is used I cant see how True is to blame for any of that. Bauer has gotten a free ride for years in terms of quality of the product they have put out vs what they are charging, if there is any skate currently on the market I would want to invest my money in, it is True. Also note, masking tape is used pretty commonly throughout the Bauer factory in Thailand, so I will echo the point that their is no need to overcomplicate things if it is not necessary / has zero influence on the manufacturing quality on the boot.

Judging from the direction this thread is going, it seems as if True has become the Tesla of skates...lol.

Lol, and if you've seen a Bauer skate get produced, there s tape used in them as well, they just add another layer on top under the insoles. Bashing a company in a thread dedicated specifically to that company is extremely immature considering your only experience with them is through word of mouth. I would say that in the cost bracket of top of the line skates, Trues aren't even the ones that need to get rivets fixed as often as some of your favourites. You've made it clear, you don't like them for no apparent reason and you're content with a skate off the shelf. There's no need to be a dick just to be a dick.

It's on the inside of the skate...

Ordered some 68k's. Will update once they arrive.

I have had my VH Skates since 2013 and the outsole/midsole is covered with masking tape. I officiate at a very high level, 3-5 games per week. I (last week) had the Milwaukee equipment manager replace the first rivet on these skates for coming loose. I'm only one data point, but I have not had any more rivet issues with these skates than any others.

Ok, everyone get back to the topic.

They felt about the same fit wise as the Bauer 4-rolls I tried on.

Who said anything about masking tape being there to support the footbed and or aiding in the rivets holding? The masking tape could have been used during the build process. It's kind of ridiculous you are now assuming things and making stuff up. You really are that bored aren't you.

As some of you know, my wife is battling breast cancer. She decided that she wanted to play hockey a couple of months ago and has been playing since last month. She wanted a pink stick, and so the fine gentlemen at Warrior did these up for her. Thanks to Keith and Doug!

Been around here for along time and at my age I’ve learned some important lessons in life. One of them is that people who call others names aren’t worth my time.