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Vet88
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If you want hassle free, low maintenance skating stick with ls2, you aren't playing nhl so you don't need the speed of change or the few extra mm of clearance. I've never had a ls2 holder flop on me when I put it in the jig to sharpen but I've seen plenty of edge holders do it and the only real fix is to replace them. For around $20 you can get a new holder (ebay, sideline etc) so get it changed if you think it is the problem.
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Whilst that may apply to a heavy person, that isn't the main concern. Skates, unless they are modified customs, are designed for a neutrally aligned ankle. Put a new skater in them or someone who pronates (an estimated 70% of the population pronate and it is more prominent in 1st world countries) and when they stand in a soft boot the general result is a wobble inwards. Now the boot has additional pressure on primarily the inner ankle and in its soft state it bends and opens up and now you have a looser fit. Sitting puts the ankle into a neutrally aligned position and as manufacturers know that most LHS employees have very little knowledge in the foot alignment field, sitting is the simplest and safest option to improve the chances of a good fit. For a boot that goes really soft like mako or true, any off center pressure is bad news.
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Thanks but I'll trust my experience from years of fitting skaters (hockey and figure, ice and inline) into skates. But to the thread subject, it's reasonably self explanatory why True want you in a lunge position for the scan. Ironically it's at odds to the baking process, at the point where you really need to be weight bearing in a skating position you can't be because of the risks of distorting the boot and even True haven't solved this one yet.
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Really? I have yet to have ANYONE fail this test when fitting for length (laces out, foot forward till toes "feathering" the toe cap, bend forward and fit the pencil down the back of your heel). "Most people can't tell if their toes are curled in the toe box or not"??? wtf. "nor can they properly tell if their feet are flat and bearing weight" - about the only time this sentence makes any sense is if they are lying on their back and waving their feet in the air....
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JR said it but I also think it is a mix of economics and reality. Those of us that sweat enough to destroy the eyelets are in the minority, goodness knows what the figure is but I'd have a guess that of their overall sales we are in the sub 1% range. So from their point of view, why change when it works for 99%+ of their player base? They take a bit of stick in forums and warranties from those of us that do have issues but they will just ride it out and pocket the difference in cost. If anyone here from a LHS wants to offer some percentage figures of sales to eyelet warranties I'd be very interested to know. Personally I don't mind it, I know what will happen if I ever lace a pair of CCM's or Rbk's up again and I know how to deal with it (skate lace free!). What I do wish is that they would offer something to fix it. they know it happens and they know why and I wish there was a customisation option where I could choose T316 stainless steel eyelets or similar, I would very happily pay a premium for this (and it would give me another reason to go custom CCM). and whilst they may have some smart people working on their skates they still make really really dumb decisions, screwing up the sizing and releasing a skate that turns the laces pink (you would not believe how much this drives people nuts...)
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It's not that it doesn't happen, it's how fast. My Bauer eyelets on my one100's are slowly giving up, I've had 8 replaced so far. However on Reeboks and CCM's I have replaced eyelets within a year and had to do the whole boot. Like for the player above, I sweat a lot and this destroys shitty eyelets really fast and normal eyelets over time. If you have had your Bauers for years and had no issues you will most likely be ok with CCM or Reeboks for many years. There are eyelets out there that don't react to sweat, Alkali used them in their top of the line inline boots (CA9's) and these eyelets were bulletproof.
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The red foam will cover the area from where the liner ends on one side to the liner on the other side. It doesn't cover the roof of the toe cap. This is used primarily to prevent any carbon splinters getting into your toes and as a comfort addition, it is a finishing product they use.
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This. I would never, ever trust the scan on it's own. If there was one piece advice I could give to every person looking to get customs it would be this. Make sure you measure up your feet (ideally with a Brannock or something similar that will give you a correct foot length and width) and that the measurements are included in the notes. If the scan data and the notes / physical measurements don't line up then someone should be contacting you to sort things out BEFORE they begin the build.
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Your custom skates were made too big (for arguments sake lets say they are 2 sizes out), they get sent back to be fixed and get returned with the toe box stuffed with a rubber material and the sides compressed inwards to make them narrower. The fit is now ok (putting aside the holder and steel length) but is this an acceptable solution for custom made skates? - Would you, as a customer, accept it or request that the skates were made to the correct size? - Would you as a fitter or shop owner be comfortable selling this to a customer? - Would you as an agent of the skate manufacturer be happy that this product is an accurate representation of the quality and product produced by the company? Lets face it, if this scenario played out in a shop for a retail skate we all know what the customer's response would be : customer: I'm looking for a size 9 skate. LHS: I don't have any in stock but I do have a size 11. Let me pack the toes and squash the sides together so it will fit you........
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Quite possibly so but when the shop puts information like "Current skates Bauer size 5" on the order and the True skates turn up the equivalent of Bauer size 7 (and then the remade left skate the equivalent of a Bauer size 6+) then I'm not sure how much more a shop can do........
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I don't know if that is the answer. True have already acknowledged that the first set of skates was their mistake, not the shop. Yes, the shop could possibly have done more to help him in the later stages but there is also more to this than smu has described here. The shop has worked with him to try and make the skates right. But what the shop does next will be key. if they are not going to get on the ph to True demanding answers and another skate remake then yes, I'd be looking to go elsewhere.These skates need to be perfect now, not just close. (btw, did I mention that the new steel is bent but that is the least of his problems atm).
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For me I say yes, particularly if there is interaction between the players in the skill set. There are a number of reasons why: 1: you want the skill to be performed as fast as possible and at the highest skill level possible 2: by having players split by skill, the lesser skilled players are not pressured to screw up and the better players engage more knowing they are more likely to be the ones that screw up. 3: the lesser skilled players should know what they have to work on and can be given specific skills to do this. 4: they also can see how a skill is done at speed and a high level, watching encourages learning. Later on in the training session you bring them together for combined drills etc but isolation by skill level is an important part of training. Now I know that for some parents in this "pc friendly everyone must participate" world this isn't the flavour of the month but the fact of the matter is this, if your kid was good enough they would be training with the higher skilled group.
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He has but its not a good result, for some unknown reason the left was made 1/2" longer than the right... He needs to be in the shop on the phone to True to find out why, something must be wrong with the scan data as both his feet are the same length. and imho they need to remake the left skate again, not just pad the toe with foam.
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Orthotics in ice skates do not fix pronation. In a shoe the orthotic has the ground to provide the support it needs to shape the foot. In an ice skate a 1/8" wide piece of steel does not provide the support the orthotic needs so your foot will still pronate. You need to either 1: move the holder inwards 2: shim the outside of the holder 3: learn to skate with your laces undone 4: buy the stiffest boots you can with the narrowest heel you can fit into and when they start to open up after a short while then buy a new pair. Anyone who wants to sell you orthotics on the premise that it will fix your pronation in ice skates is just selling a dream.
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Both of your feet pronate. Have a look at the way the tongue sits in the boot, see how it twists to the outside? This is because your foot is collapsing inwards during any inside edge work and then the tongue gets pushed to the outside due to the pressure of the foot. It's not just the ankle, it's a body alignment issue - forefoot to arch, arch to ankle, ankle to knee, knee to hip, hip to back. Calf raises help, standing on a step edge with the side of your foot and holding your balance, lunges with correct alignment (knee over the second toe) but if you want to naturally fix it (as opposed to holder movement or shimming) there is only one way for skaters to do it, skate with your laces undone. It takes around 1 year of training of focused inside edge work (at least 3 times a week for an hour per session) for the muscle memory to set and then you will not pronate in your skates. Your alignment will be correct, your arch, ankles and legs will be much stronger and you will be a much better technical skater than when you began.
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I'll help here, here is the shim in the True boot that fits perfectly in his size 5 Bauers: https://imgur.com/a/FDhX0Lp and here he is fitting 2 fingers down the back of his heel with his foot in the boot. That is the back of the hand that you are looking at: https://imgur.com/a/1VFOPK1
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Because shin pads don't come in 1/2 sizes and a lot of players prefer to wear them under the tongue. When the shin pad is just a fraction too long the bottom edge of the shin pad rubs against the inner lining around the top eyelet. And this came from our authorized Bauer agent after he had come back from a visit to the Bauer center in Europe and he was explaining why Bauer had done it. But maybe you drop the top 3 eyelets which allows you the extra flex forward in the boot then it is possible for the tongue to brush the lining but if you lace all the way up then it should not be happening. But if you think your tongue should be naturally moving back and forward in the skate then so be it.
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Skates aren't designed to wear like that. You should be asking yourself why this is happening because it is an indication that the skates are not fitting you correctly or you have foot related issues (pronation, alignment, heel twist etc) that is causing the tongue to rub against the boot.
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Another very experienced True fitter has already indicated in this thread how he has received skates from True that had a similar story to smu. Saying it never happens doesn't make it so. Now if there was some visibility of True reaching out to the LHS to understand what went wrong and why and feeding this back into the fitment process to improve things then that in itself would be good customer feedback. But saying that you get sent skates that other fitting centers can't get right isn't a great overall look for the process, whilst it may be good for your business how can a member of the public have a high degree of trust in other fitting centers?
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There is nothing any fit center anywhere in the world could have done to fix these skates. Even if it was a scanner screw up the first time, when the skates went back the second time with the fitting center comments attached, they should never have come back with foam in the toe box as the fix. I have seen the photos of how these fit on him, when he can fit 2 fingers down the back of his heel when his toes are brushing the toe box, when the heel inserts he has that fit ok in his size 5 Bauers are put in the Trues and they slop from side to side by around 5mm, when he can fit a finger down the side of his ankle with his foot in the boot, and when his foot slops around in the boot so much when it is done up that he can hardly feel the tops of the boot then it's a triple whammy, length, width and volume were all wrong and wrong by a long long way. These were so far out the first thing I thought of was that True must have sent him skates made for someone else who was around 2+ sizes bigger all over. Now if the scanner can be this far out then True have some serious issues with the software.
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99% of the time it's not the tongue that causes the wear, it's how open the boot is at the top and how the shin guards fit. You get one side of the shin guard that just slips inside one side of the boot and this will destroy the lining at the top of the boot really fast.
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I think what you meant here is that you skate in a Bauer X60 that is nearly 2 sizes smaller than the skate True have supplied you with. Put side by side the True skate is nearly 1/2 an inch longer (and wider and with more volume). All in all a boot that doesn't fit you anywhere and their attempt to fix it the 2nd time round was to pad the toe caps and put in a sole filler??? wtf. Come on True, this isn't good and a True rep who reads this should be getting someone to reach out to smu and help fix this because something, somewhere has gone wrong about as bad as it can possibly get........
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If your feet were 2 different sizes by a significant amount (ie a size 6 and a size 7) then making a longer boot and padding it in the toe is a valid way to address the length differential. What smu is saying the boots should fit your feet, not be too long or too wide or have too much volume. They should not have padding in the toes because they were made too long or extra thick soles to try and take out volume because they were made too large or need heel inserts because the heel pocket is too big.
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I have arthritis, especially in my lower back and my last lot of xrays of my upper back / neck region showed a lot of wear and tear. I'm not at the fusion stage yet but dealing with back pain is an ongoing grind. However my chiropractor reckons skating is one of the better exercises you can do for your back as it does not generate a lot of concussive loading thru the back and the rotational movement helps to keep everything loose (and I hate swimming as an exercise). If I ever wonder if I could still play sports after spinal fusion I just look at Tiger and know anything must be possible.
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Hmm, all this just to get a ex NHL player to feel comfortable in them, someone who has skated for most of his life. How are they going to dial in the rest of skating population???
