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My guess is the Shift holder's forward pitch and small size (because the boots run very large) puts a lot of people on the upward curving toe rocker of the blade when they're used to having more "flat" there to balance on...pretty much the opposite to having the toe of new blades ground down to feel more natural a decade+ ago.
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4 hours ago, yk15 said:Thanks! I really like my HP45, but want to try something new. So I ordered the HP70 for now. Soon I will be able to judge how much heavier the HP70 are. I will sell them if it does not work out.
Please share when you find the comparative weights. I love the HP70 fit, so I’m keen to know how it stacks up.
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Erik Cole and Matt Cooke as well. Don’t know of any current players.
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20 hours ago, PBH said:More than I care to admit. It literally kills me on the inside to do this.
Agreed.
Maybe it varies by location, not sure where in the great white north you live but in the west, profiling is extremely common. When I lived in Seattle I spent a lot of time in Vancouver and the best pro shops there tend to sell a profile with almost every pair of skates or steel. The stores I owned in Seattle also saw many players visit from the north and many players were excited we had ProSharp machines since that wouldn't "ruin their profiles."
I would note many players don't even know they have or have had a profile. For example, anyone skating on Bladetech steel is skating on a profile since they come with a triple radius. Byonic also has a dual radius profile applied out of the box.
Keep in mind that profiling can be something as simple as shaving the toe, or applying a single radius, such as an 11' profile on new steel with a minor forward pitch. It doesn't always need to be something fancy.
Typical players just know they like one steel more than another, not even understanding that various brands have different profiles applied from the factory or have different steel shapes.
I met a former Swedish pro from the Toronto area who said he loved Grafs “because their radius is so short I can just spin like a top on them.” I didn’t have the heart to tell him Cobras had the longest stock profile on the market.
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6 hours ago, Ric_Flair said:I see this is old, but a 15mm is a DEEP hollow here in Sweden.
If you're still searching for places to do sharpenings in Swe, drop me a PM. There's a great shop here in Gbg.Thanks for the info!
Luckily, I'm at a new club where we have a ProSharp 1001, and I get my skates done at 25mm now, which is fine, but I'm thinking of going down to 30 maybe once I get some issues with my skates fixed. I'm thinking of getting my own dressing tool, so I can try out different combos with the Z-Channel. There's at least one other guy who wants to try it, but none that I know of that have actually dressed the wheel for that yet. In Copenhagen, there are only two shops and the one I used to live closer to wouldn't redress their wheel. The other one will, but now I don't need to go there for sharpening anymore either.
Have you tried Z-Channel yet? What hollow, channel, radius are you skating on?
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How did the original Synergy shoot? Was it low-kick because of the T-Flex taper?
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I don’t know how current this is anymore, but 15-ish years ago an employee at an outdoor sporting goods store told me how manufacturing winter coats in China works. He said K2, Arcteryx, Mountain Hardware, etc. were manufactured by the same group and sometimes even in the same factory, just in tightly scheduled blocks. For a week or so they’d make Company X’s jackets then the next week they’d reset and make Company Y’s jacket, and so on. Specialization at the front yet again.
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On 12/5/2021 at 4:12 PM, Jbear said:I think prostocksticks.com has a McD like this. I'm RH too, so...I'm accustomed to having about 32.3% of the choice that the normal hockey world has🥅🏒🇨🇦🤣😎
They do!
On 12/5/2021 at 3:46 PM, Miller55 said:It's a p92 that stays more closed at the heel and opens up a bit later than the retail edition. But McD already told Oates to go fly a kite and looks like he's sticking with his curve. It's very close to a square toe p92, similar to Iginla but a much deeper pocket and opens up on top. To say it's an Iggy with more curve depth and more open does not exclude it from being similar to a p92, as the 92 also has more curve and is more open to Iginla. That said, I'm a right shot and I've only ever seen lefty of both McD and Oates, so there are possibly nuances that I'm not pickup up (I have a hard time doing it for lefty curves)
McDavid was using Oates' preferred pattern again yesterday:
There are many characteristics that can impact how a blade plays for someone. There are a few things that would steer me away from McDavid's curve if I were a P92 user.
- It's a junior sized blade, smaller in length and height. This will likely be noticed by someone used to bigger blades.
- It has very little rocker, in stark contrast to the P92.
- It's a very low lie, where even the P92-"5" is still higher than a P88 "6."
- It's not exactly a square toe, but more of a hybrid semi-square, like the E13 (P89's a touch bit rounder). Depending on what you're looking for in a square blade @Jbear, it might fit the bill.
The curves of the McDavid and P92 are quite similar, and the loft looks to be very close, but there are other important things to consider. The first 1:35 of Geppetto's review of the blade has some good side by side comparisons with the P92.
@Hills also reviewed PSHS and their McDavid curve in some depth:
@Jbear, have you tried squaring off the P92 toe yourself? There are some suggestions on MSH if you search for repairing a toe with epoxy for wet environments. That way you'd keep the other features of the P92 and only lose a little bit of blade length. Plus, it's still maybe the easiest pattern on the market to find.
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35 minutes ago, Sniper9 said:You're fine. For the customs at least true stated to me I could bake it upwards of nine times with no issues
I'm not sure the shell is the same.
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There’s a massive opening for innovation in my mind, using only tried and true materials already common in the market. The problem is rather traditionalism, on the consumer side showing itself in the reluctance to try new or different looking things, on the manufacturers’ side showing itself in the incredible degree of clustering around selected archetypes in each category. There’s symmetry in those two dancing that way, product market fit in a less exciting form.
Still, once in a while something innovative breaks through: Graf’s 700 series, Micron Air 90, N/B’s one90 (I don’t see much innovation in the one95), SVH boots, Easton Mako gloves...
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4 hours ago, Miller55 said:M David uses a modded p92 with square toe. Good luck finding one of his pro stocks though lol. You're other option is to sand down the toe on one if your sticks and then epoxy and tape. That's only if you're a real nut
His square toe junior pattern that he’s been slowly working away from is a more open and curved Easton Iginla Jr. I’ve read on here that Oates insists McDavid use Oates’ preferred curve (Stamkos Pro?), which I believe is a P92 with some mid-toe curve added to it.
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You could stitch some of the palm up under the binding of the inside and top borders like shown in Fedorov’s gloves above.-
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1 hour ago, PBH said:If you think Bauer has increased the cost of gear significantly, just wait for what CCM is doing in 2022...
Oh dear. When do we get to see that?
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2 hours ago, puckpilot said:...carrying around that weight when you're skating. Add that to the time off because of the apocalypse, and you may feel a bit more unstable on the ice. This may lead you to over tighten your skates to compensate, which will squeeze the sides of the skate in more. It doesn't take much. A few millimetres can make all the difference.between a comfortable skate and one that's crushing your foot.
Absolutely spot on.
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6 hours ago, ProfessorBarDownski said:Big time !! Lol but I don’t think that changes the feet ?
Your feet are likely to broaden as they bear more load. It’s like any soft support. Press down on a squeeze ball with your fist and it expands outward under the load. It’s maybe only a few mm on each side, but add that up and suddenly stiff, snug-fitting footwear goes from comfortable to unbearable.
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7 hours ago, Sniper9 said:it's been discussed, especially on the vh/true thread that people generally go down a hollow with the skates. I guess it stands true for the retail skates too.
Wasn’t that true of Makos too?
10 hours ago, pisani34 said:Got my TF9's out on the ice today for an open skate quickly over lunch. My first thoughts, pretty comfy boots, but I was pretty thrown off by the ROH. I used the same sharpener i always go to and have had good success with over the last 3-4 years. We put on my preferred 7/8" ROH on there, albeit on the TF9's its just on the stock profile. I'm coming from same size steel, but step Blacksteel in my Supertacks with SB+4.0's. Those are profiled with a maximum edge 981 profile, triple radius which ive found ok, never really tried anything else to be honest though.
Stepping out on the ice, the aggressive pitch didn't bother me at all, i've had grafs for a long time and makos for a long time, so no problem there, but the issue was that these definitely did not "feel" like a 7/8" ROH. The sharpener is telling me that he for sure did them at 7/8", and that it is the stock profile of the Onyx steel that is making it feel like it has more bite, as there is more blade to ice contact than i have with my supertacks. Is this a true thing? i know you can't really "tell", but just by feeling the edges with my fingers, it almost has quite a distinguishable grab when running fingers perpendicularly over the blade edges as compared to what they feel like on my steps.
With that being said, i'm not tied down to the max edge profiles, and a bunch of shops around here do have prosharp machines, so i may give a prosharp profile a go. I mainly play defense and my skating game is more linear and top speed than agility/quickness, any starting point for prosharp profiles to recommend on the onyx?
Coles notes:
I guess my biggest question right now would be, could the profile have THAT big an effect on the ROH/bite feeling in regards to stopping? It was borderline chattering almost on the onyx
The active factor I’d guess is the True boot offering more direct energy transfer which makes the same hollow feel grippier compared to lossier boots. Though, I thought Mako users often experienced it as well. Still, I agree with @Sniper9, you’ll likely find the right feel at a slightly shallower hollow. Definitely try that before messing with your profile.
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13 hours ago, Robertwil18 said:I dont disagree regarding placement....Just the new Bauer swoopy swoosh logo that never should have been created in the name of "diversity", and "hockey is for everyone".
It’s a bit rich isn’t it. Bauer raises prices to ever-increasing heights and wants the crown of inclusivity. As long as you’ve got the dough...
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2 hours ago, Robertwil18 said:Anyone seen any of the new Bauer designs? It appears the newest Supreme line will be the "Mach" skates with the Mach and Mach 5/Pro included in the photo. I can't believe they put their awful new logo on the back of them for now.
It's a smart move to put a logo on the heel. With a lot of skates' quarters covered with shot blockers, it can be hard to see what skate a player has on. The heel is often still exposed when much of the rest of the identifiable branding on a pro's skate is covered.
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Up to date, nevermind.
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Is the liner and foam spec carried over from the Mako? It reminds me of that lineage.
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On 11/15/2021 at 9:57 PM, Miller55 said:MacKinnon looks like it's a bit more open faced and looks like it's missing that real hard hook right up to the tip of the blade
Geppetto disagrees with you:
In the first minute he says it's CCM's P71, which is different from Warrior's W71 and also similar to but not quite the same as Malkin Pro, which is strange because that's right back to where we started: you were enjoying the W10 and he pushed the Malkin Pro even though he says he doesn't think they're that similar.
Also, depending on the Malkin Pro variation, the lie isn't that far off. W10 has that common pro feature of a radiused heel, for handling the puck a little further away from the body. One of the minor blade shape differences between my Malkin Pros (not sure they match with PSHS' Malkin Pro) and E4s is my Malkins are a little more square at the heel and the toe--not actually square just not as radiused as the E4--otherwise, the similarity is unmistakable. This will make the W10 read as quite a bit lower if you try and line up the heels' lies. But if you look at the blades overall, the W10 is quite flat on the last 85% of the blade, even flatter in rocker than the E4, which is close to as little blade rocker as you can find. These subtleties of rocker moments are what separate the W10 from my Malkin Pros, which overall have approximately the same lie. Both would be rated 4 under Warrior's old system, or 5 under Easton's pre-E28.
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18 hours ago, Hills said:So is all of the major hockey influencer accounts but NHLPA doesn't go after them.
Every single account that uses an NHLPHA member's likeness should be targeted in the same manner, but it isn't. Those accounts use the likeness of the members to grow themselves and sell merch or ad spots, this account probably got a member or a member's sponsor pissed off so they are going after them.Who says they should?
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12 hours ago, Miller55 said:Hope Sean Avery helps him get some support from the pros to get permission to use their images
Does Avery have that much clout with today’s players? Even if he does, is an individual exemption possible when you’re the member of a union? On top of that, a lot of the names he’s using are on competing products.
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28 minutes ago, Miller55 said:I view it more like a fan page. Dude loves sticks and curves. If I were him I would definitely look into my options to take legal action, but he doesn't seem like that kinda guy.
Is there an exchange of goods or services for money involved in this fan page’s activity?
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What would you say is the main price driver?
Also, a stick is more than a pile of materials.