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I just tried on some TF7s. My MLX are a size 10 and my right foot, which is slightly longer than my left, touches the toe box with slightly more than feathering pressure. I tried the TF7s in 10.0R and was swimming and felt like my arch didn’t line up with that of the boots; 9.5W felt like I could sharpen them and go without any baking, though the heel felt a bit relaxed; 9.5R felt on the money: snug, with even pressure everywhere except across the forefoot—there it was a touch too tight, but I’m confident a bake would fix that—toes were feathering the toe cap more ideally than they do in my 10 MLX. Now I wish I had tried 9.0W + R, but that’ll have to be for another day.
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23 minutes ago, SkateWorksPNW said:I now have 12 sessions in on the new skates and the more I use them the more I find little things that need to be adjusted for them to "work" with my skating. As I am making these adjustments the more I am liking the skates. I still feel more stable on my TRUE skates as they feel better connected to the ice but the Ultrasonic skates are more comfortable with the oversized ankle pads, thicker clarino liners, and comfort pads.
What little things need to be adjusted? Can you give some examples?
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6 hours ago, Sniper9 said:The padding is likely just a thin strip so your toes aren't exposed directly to the carbon she'll and adds some padding. Im pretty sure you got a skate that, like you said, had the wrong tongue put on. If I were you I'd return both skates and order another 8.5. The good news is it's not your mistake and the shop should honor the exchange.
It's probably not as bad now that their toe caps are plastic, but on my MLX, my right big toe sits with a firm brush against the toe cap and I think I got mild frostbite every time I wore thin socks in those boots. I'd love a little foam there. I could add some myself, but haven't gotten around to it.
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2 hours ago, boo10 said:The Micron Mega 10-90's that I had were notched below the 3rd eyelet, so they had excellent ankle mobility. They were heavy by today's standards, but were lighter than the Supreme models of the same era, (at least by my memory). I had them for 15 years and given the choice, I would still wear them over anything on the market today.
Air 90 had that great flex hinge instead of the notch. I still felt like my ankle was being grabbed by a bony ghost. But if a skate’s gonna go that high, that’s the way to do it.
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15 hours ago, boo10 said:The greatest skate ever made.
A little too high cut, but the best boot cut that high, probably. Insanely heavy too, compared to older Graf 703s. For my taste.
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9 hours ago, DropGloveMurphy said:It's present on the 8.5 that I didn't bake as well. Based on the position I'm guessing that it's got something to do with the seam between the painted fiberglass and the rest of the boot.
I’m confused by this description. The shell on the TF models covers 90% of the area of the boot. It runs under the surface for a lot of it but it doesn’t stop around the midfoot, where your problem area is.
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On 9/19/2020 at 10:46 PM, stick9 said:Completely different and there is nothing budget about them.
Now I’ve heard different.
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5 hours ago, SkateWorksPNW said:I always force myself to try other brands so I understand the pros and cons when talking to customers. These are very nice skates, they just dont work for me personally. Some people prefer Audi over BMW even though they are both equally nice.
I’ve always heard that Audis are just budget BMW copies.
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1 hour ago, nummer55 said:As per the instructions you flare out the top part after baking which will make the lacing up a little easier. Nevertheless it can be tight. I can get in without undoing the upper eyelets, but if it pops out I can get them back in over the tongue (but it’s a battle).
Can you post those instructions?
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According to IW a size 9 TF7 and Ultrasonic weighs 949g, TF9 945g and AS3 Pro 921g. Interesting.
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19 hours ago, mojo122 said:Not looking to fan the True debate, but I see guys jump into them and then at some point jump out. There were 3 Bruins players (Carlo, Chara, and Coyle) in them and they all switched out.
It can be hard to see past one's favorite team, but it's more of a big picture phenomenon. There are other guys like Mark Stuart or Ryan Murray who were in SVH's skates long before True and then went back to Bauer. That makes sense to me because both Bauer and CCM have been playing against SVH since his boots first hit the NHL, and that war is only on more than ever right now. I think tradition says a lot about why players gravitate back towards something more familiar to what they grew up with. What's more interesting for the discussion isn't who's been in True skates, for how long, and what they're on now, but rather what the population statistics are. Is True's market share growing, regardless of who's in the skates? I'd wager that it is. Eventually, there's likely to be an outlier on the good side of the distribution wearing their skates that will have greater pull in kids' brand estimation, which should lead to more sales at retail. If they can get in where Graf was before the one90, it could tilt the entire board. Before 2006, Graf had a lot of the biggest names in their boots. Then Bauer officially killed them, even stole Fedorov back to Nike! If a handful of the game's greatest players are in True boots, and they cost what Grafs did 20 years ago, you could see significant sales to say the least. Perhaps not majority market share, but potentially good enough to make a solid business case. I don't think this stops at skates either, by the way, but that's just me.
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My guess is it’s a longer view thing, 2 seasons down the road versus pushing every button right now. Word of mouth on Trues here has been excellent. A surprising amount of beer leaguers I talk to wanted True customs but couldn’t justify the price. That all changes now. And that’s potentially another layer of broader word of mouth.
True’s also got some high end prospects in their skates. Once they have a few of the game’s most prominent players, maybe in a few more years, that cements the market incursion. That’s my view of their strategy.
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58 minutes ago, Thorisson#3 said:Yes, i pre-ordered through IW hockey. They told me that they are not carrying any tongues or other parts for the skates now or in the future and told me to contact True directly.
Yeah, that could be the issue, i'd like to replace the tongue.. for free or for a fee but i can't seem to find any place willing to sell it to me. I live in Iceland and there is no local hockey shop here 😕 only online stores in EU or NA.
Woah! How much hockey is there in Iceland? That’s unfortunate about IW not helping, and True not answering if their dealer’s unwilling and/or unable to help. We have a pretty solid True dealer in Copenhagen, REX Hockey. Though you might be better off financially contacting a Swedish dealer. That could spare you import duties if you got help from someone in North America.
Since the tongue just Velcro’s out, could you try and just remove the tongues and pop in some from another pair of skates? That’s what I’ve done in mine. I usually just slide them in and let the laces hold them in place. It could be a quick check to see if that’s a help at all.
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@Thorisson#3, did you purchase them through a retailer? With True customs that was the first line of trouble shooting. It’s probably even more difficult for True to address consumers individually now that they’re growing.
I got a little lace bite in my MLX, but over the middle eyelets. It was only with the stock tongue which had a pretty stiff thermoplastic piece just beneath the outer pleather (probably pleather). That was the only section I was cranking down on the eyelets. Now that I’ve swapped for the softest Graf tongue I have, it’s no problem, paradoxically.
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2 minutes ago, Thorisson#3 said:Bought the TF9's, fit was so-so out of the box... After baking at home (and shrink wrapping) the heel is 100% locked in and comfy, but a little room in the forefoot, thinking about baking again and shrink wrapping the forefoot section.
However, the lace bite i'm getting is just ridiculous... I've tried lacing the skates inwards out, outwards in, different lace bite lacing methods... I'm not failing the "pencil test"... I've tried to contact true support (e-mail) to try to see if they will ship me a different tongue or something... 9 days and 2 emails later, no answer... 😞
I'll be skating in my MX3's tonight ... sadly.
Are you getting lace bite at the top? A lot of people find they don’t need to lace Trues with much if any tension. The molding more than snugs the boot up sufficiently for performance.
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4 hours ago, mojo122 said:If they need to be baked just to see if it fits then that could possibly deter small shops as well as bigger retailers from carrying them or carrying decent stock. Why carry a new skate that you might have to bake multiple times before moving it off the shelf or have it sit there indefinitely?
Not out of loyalty but strictly economics. Money in versus money out. Stores' goals are to stock what sells and then replenish and not tie up money on inventory that doesn't move. Bauer and CCM own the retail market share when it comes to skates and I don't see that changing anytime soon. Might be the reason why Warrior has done everything BUT skates.
Especially when Warrior’s parent is shoes first and foremost.
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Is there any connection between Verbero’s boots and the Easton S15/17? Verberos look like the same pattern just redressed.
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12 hours ago, JR Boucicaut said:That’s not a fair statement.
While all tendon guards “back in the day” became flexible over time (because they broke) the ONE90 was the first to be designed to actually flex and rebound. The premise behind that skate was dynamic range of motion.That’s a good point. I’ve never gotten to try a one90; still keeping my eyes out for a pair in the right size.
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1 hour ago, stick9 said:Didn't some of the Mako tech make its way into current Bauer skates? The flexible tendon guard on the Supreme, no?
No. Bauer scoffed at that “innovation,” pointing out they had had that feature going back to the one90. Back in the day all skates had it.
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20 hours ago, psulion22 said:I believe the True boot is closer to the Bauer design than the CCM, that being different pieces fused together. CCM is one, uncut piece of material for the whole boot, except the toe cap. Bauer and True are taking a quarter piece and a heel/outsole piece and fusing them together with resin in a mold. Bauer is using Curv composite for the whole thing, while True is varying the materials on each model.
Huh, your take on True's construction sounds different than mine. What makes you think the way they build their boots is closer to Bauer's method, fusing a quarter piece to the heel/outsole piece?
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3 hours ago, psulion22 said:I do agree they are probably behind CCM without a true one piece boot, but so is everyone else then too, since CCM is the only one that offers that.
Wait, if CCM has one-piece boots doesn’t True as well?
3 hours ago, SkateWorksPNW said:I think the most revolutionary release we will see is the new one-piece Ribcor that is rumored to be released next year. Having a boot thats known to be flexible adapted to a one-piece design will be very interesting.
I’m curious to see how the TF7 does in the flexible one-piece category.
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3 hours ago, caveman27 said:Brick Shoes would have been an awful name.
Also morbid. My mind thinks mafia with a name like that.
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35 minutes ago, caveman27 said:Well, they want to save on weight, in competing with CCM on selling light-weight skates.
My Supreme 6000s have that heel design. Before I got my CCM Jetspeeds, I felt like I was skating with cave man skates where most guys including the refs were wearing skates with carbon fiber boot.
Hence the name?
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6 hours ago, mojo122 said:Why would a "custom" skate have so much negative space to begin with that you would need seran wrap or tensor bands for the bake?
Custom tailored jeans might be a good analogy. The measurements are correct, but the final mapping of the custom product to real flesh and bone, with all of its quirks requires a final step. Prebake, it’s like custom APC denim. Time is required to take them from the right measurements to an extension of your body. Thermoplasticity replaces time with the custom skates.
The problem isn’t just negative space, but positive space.
2 sticks, same length. One feels way shorter than another?
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Possibly different balance points / swing weights. I used to be superstitiously insistent on a certain blade lie and stick length combo. Turns out it’s feeling in tune with the swing weight that makes or breaks a stick’s play for me. If other parameters are the same but balance is different, they’ll feel like two very different sticks. It other parameters are different but the balance is what your body expects, those other parameters don’t matter. That’s how it is for me at least.