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Prostockhockey usually has PM9 in stock if you're a lefty.
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For Trues it’s helpful to think of a new concept: positive space. It’s well known how well they bake and that they have minimum negative space because of this. But the baking shifts almost any way you want (some portions of the boot are relatively fixed, much more resistant to thermoforming). That means they also move up and out around protrusions of the foot. If I were buying a new pair of Trues I would probably lean toward the one just smaller than what I can squeeze into prebake.
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I was surprised by Leonsis' comments after Ovy's signing (https://www.nhl.com/news/capitals-alex-ovechkin-aims-to-break-wayne-gretzky-goal-record/c-325872062). He was saying it was kind of good for the team and whatnot. What the hell, Ovy's going to be the all-time goal scoring leader with one team. Gordie almost played with just one NHL team, but the others ahead of Ovy all split their time on several clubs. If I owned an NHL team and one of my players was the all-time leader in goals, and scored all of those goals for my team, I'd be pretty happy with, if not downright proud of that fact. That might not be as loud as a few more Stanley Cups but I'd think it certainly says something good about the organization. As long as he doesn't go crazy and try to play until he's 50 or something I'd do what I could to keep him the center of the team.
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It would be interesting to see how many he would have had at this point if it weren't for multiple lockouts and COVID19 disruptions. He might have already gotten to Gretzky's record by now.
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10 hours ago, SolarWind said:and here's the view of the skate creasing when flexing:
9 hours ago, Hills said:
Isn’t that just the forward flex that’s supposed to make these so agile? That kind of flex is what’s missing in today’s skates, the main issue I have with my MLX.
@PBH what does it look like when you flex your 100Ks?
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10 hours ago, Westside said:Compared to the FT4 or Bauer Hyperlites, the 100Ks are easily the best ‘traditional’ looking skate on the market
Nah. Both True and Graf make more appealing traditional looking skates.
What puts me off the most is all of the rugged textures. It looks messy and clunky. Its appearance doesn’t impute agility or anything remotely related to speed.
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I'm really put off by the look of the 100Ks. They look like monstrous insects that have been smashed in a mold.
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3 hours ago, Miller55 said:That's why you gotta zero those cuffs buddy
Nah, just AxyFlex cuff.
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@SolarWind a lot of people report going to a shallower hollow on Scott Van Horne boots, as the more direct energy transfer makes for more direct edge application: the same hollow on a two piece skate tends to feel shallower than it does for the same skater in a one-piece.
How stiff are the tongues on the 100K? Tongue stiffness can have a surprisingly large influence on forward flex. If it’s too stiff in combination with the stiffness of the quarters for a particular skater’s feel preference it can get in the way just like using a 120 flex stick if you’re more geared toward 80.
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16 hours ago, SolarWind said:Completely agree, which is why I went and bough my first ever CCM skate 🙂
I think the last revolutionary skate Bauer had was One95. It had some initial issues (they were bricks) to they refined it over Total One & NXG, but after that the progress seemed to have stopped for them. And now with CCM holding patent over one-piece boots there is just not much wiggle room for Bauer it seems other than adding gimmicks here & there...I had reinforced eyelets in my Bauers, which is a 1mm plastic insert that runs along the edge of the skate. It doesn't heat mold nor bend, and as a result with Bauers they provided zero wrap. Which is why it's so foreign to me to have the boot form C at the top vs U. So my question is - is that even Ok? Should the top eyelets wrap around the ankle?
There are youtubes of Scott Van Horne molding the skates but dealing with top eyelets separately: not lacing them, limiting the amount of shrink wrap around the ankle area, or there is even one where he uses heat gun to open up top eyelets hence the question above.
Maybe the boot have too much volume for my ankles or I needed to be flexing forward during the molding process?
Any pics would be appreciated, just to have a reference point.
Totally caught me off guard since the skate felt like a cast/ski boot, it didn't seem to have much forward flex when laced all the way up.CCM doesn't have a patent on one-piece boots overall. They have patent over a particular method of construction. So does True. So does Bauer: they own the Mako and MLX IP.
There is no should/should not, only personal preference. One could work with you and make a recommendation if you're not sure. But there's no blanket statement about what to do. Kovalchuk: wrapped upper eyelets but creased to hell. It's always worked great for him. Shane Wright, the complete opposite (at least in Bauer, haven't been able to find a clear shot of his Trues that isn't too dark to see any detail). It's all up to the skater and the skates having a good relationship.
Your images didn't match at all what I was expecting from your description. That's a bit of wrap, but nothing crazy. Looks very normal. Just a slight inclination from the sidewalls toward the midline of the boot.
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@nystromshairstylist Would you do a lengthy review of them? A lot of members on MSH are curious about Graf's recent work, but not many are confident enough to take the plunge. Some pictures of the quality of construction and detailed analysis of why they're great for you would help potential buyers evaluate whether or not a new pair of Grafs might be for them.
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15 hours ago, oldtrainerguy28 said:Yes but awful structure. Broke down faster than anything.
Just in general or was it at any particular weak points? Just curious because it hasn’t happened to me, but I have nowhere near the exposure to skates and skate parts and what stresses they go through that you do.
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23 minutes ago, PBH said:@boo10 @oldtrainerguy28 So basically a Graf Cobra holder? 😉
I love that holder. Nice geometry.
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16 minutes ago, PBH said:Honestly, this is why all stores should have a shooting area for players to test sticks before buying them. We set an area up in our store and also have the CCM Stick Fitter as well. The combination of these factors helps a ton for players who have no idea what flex they should be using.
Does any shop have this set up where you can shoot with your skates on?
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1 hour ago, SFL said:ok, well these tongues are terrible imo. You can't get the end of the shin guard down in behind them and are forced to put it over which i absolutely hate.
they also provide less flex than the felt tongues.
unfortunately i've used these so I will just try to sell them on sideline or something and go get different skates.
What about the rest of the boot? If it's just the tongues you don't like, have you considered swapping the tongue? The last "innovative" Bauer tongue I had was in my Vapor 8's and I couldn't stand the lack of flex so I sliced the top layer of pleather, which made it much better. That's not an option in this case, but if you have old tongues lying around, it might be worth the try.
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2 hours ago, Sniper9 said:Matthews stick is pretty short so he's kind of forced to have his hands closer together vs a longer stick.
At the end of the the day stick flex is whatever you are used to. You can train yourself to adapt to use a stiffer or whippier stick. So the pros and cons are essentially not that important. I would say it's more important for a younger player to start out with a stick that can actually load properly and then it's all preference once they have built the foundations.
His stick is long compared to a lot of 90’s stars, and they managed to shoot with hands closer and further apart (see Coffey, Sakic, Bure, Kovalev, and Fedorov amongst many others). There are too many variables to just look at stick length relative to height and say how one’s hands are forced to be when shooting. Matthews has a rather upright stance, for example, which probably contributes to his hand offset.
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8 hours ago, bl4 said:tried on some elbows but didn't bite the bullet. Unfortunately, they didn't have any of the Tacks or Warriors that others had recommended in my size, so I'll see if I can either find another shop that does or try ordering some to the LHS. I was struck by how bulky everything felt that I did try. The protection seemed great for the most part, but everything felt like it would restrict motion. Maybe my impression is distorted because my old Jofas are so broken-in (who am I kidding, worn out) that I hardly notice them and because I'm so far behind the curve on the technology and styles for the pads. Curious if folks have noticed a substantial "break-in" period with newer model elbows, or if you found pairs that struck you as providing more flexibility.
Everything is old Jofa though, just redressed a bit to make different elbows seem distinct. They’re actually all just copies of those established archetypes (Jofa 2-piece and 3-piece). They may have miniscule differences but there’s nothing new under the Sun yet.
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I agree I’d go with one of the existing integrated solutions available: cage, bubble, or combo. It’s hard to agree this is “ultimate protection,” what with those gaps for a stick or something to wedge into or latch onto, and there’s no chin cup. It also performs poorly on the mirror test, especially from the side:
I’d wager that’s one of the more important deciding factors when it comes to the market’s acceptance of new product.
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Give me balance over minimum weight any day.
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On 7/7/2021 at 11:15 PM, calixguy18 said:Has anyone had any issues with the TF9 digging into the area above your ankle (on the outside)? I don't think it's the top of the skate that's causing the issue but possibly the top eyelet which isn't laced. The eyelet doesn't seem recessed into the boot as much as it should be.
I've flared out the cuff progressively wider a couple of times and it's gotten better each time but when I lean really forward, it still really bites into my leg. I will say that I've never skipped the top eyelet in the past and I seem to be able to get much more forward flex than any other skates (due to very little heel slippage).
It's happening on both skates. In the past, I've had the top edge of skates dig into the side of my leg but I'd just wear a wristband for extra padding and it was fine. This seems to be lower and much more painful. Is it the skates or my skating technique that's causing the problem?
Did you try the lipstick spot check Van Horne shows in a video? Put lipstick on the sore spot of your naked ankle/foot, put your skate on and then press your foot up against the skate. Because it sounds like it’s an area where your ankle is moving back and forth in the skate, try to replicate that motion with and without the tongue in place. I’m wondering if it could be the edge of the tongue, as the TF9 tongue lacks the usual plush felt around the edges like a traditional tongue would have.
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3 hours ago, PBH said:Skates that have clarino will be slightly heavier than top-tier Bauer and CCM liners when dry (at the start of a game) but if you weigh the same skate after a game, the skate with clarino will typically way less.
With Clarino-lined skates, would one’s socks weigh more at the end of the game?
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12 hours ago, mojo122 said:I would have preferred the look of having a big JetSpeed where the CCM is, similar to what Bauer did with Vapor and Supreme. Then again what's more important, looks or performance?
But for future proofing CCM is better than the lineup name in big text. As a counterpoint
which I always read as “All Out. Oh CCM.”
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10 hours ago, SolarWind said:That’s the thing: I specifically said several times “to each his own” to avoid Any generalizations! Nor I expressed any interest in receiving unsolicited advice on skating from ppl who never saw me skate.
I referred to MY experience since for ME a certain level of stiffness is required. So all I was asking was to comment on the skate itself, and so far none of the posters shared anything in this regard. Most if not all posters apparently have never even seen the skate, so perhaps this thread should be closed since it’s clearly fallen off the rails.
On 6/27/2021 at 8:00 AM, SolarWind said:The new skates are slowly tricking into the stores and I was told some were fortunate to get the demos.
curious if anyone had a chance to try 100k pro skates on ice?curious if the claims of agility holds up since up close there is nothing extraordinary re the skate’s build quality, plus squeezing the quarters they feel very soft… the latter is expected I guess but I’m curious if the skate bottoms out in hard turns or just feels flimsy when flexed hard?
The part in bold sounds like a generalization to me, but to each his own. I suspect some others may have read that that way as well, which could be why there’s been some speculation on why you’re afraid you might boot or bottom out in 100Ks.
There’s nothing wrong with knowing what you like in a boot, but asking if a boot generally behaves such and such a way under certain circumstances sounds like blaming the arrow rather than looking at the archer. Attributing performance to equipment is probably the number one fallacy of hockey equipment marketing, so it’s important to stamp that thinking out as much as possible.
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9 hours ago, SolarWind said:To each his own I guess. I’m not the heaviest guy out there but still over 200 LBs and flex my skates hard, so all things being equal I found that there is a certain level of support that is required. Otherwise the ankle flex toon angle becomes too sharp and the skate literally bottoms out kicking the edge out. It has nothing to do with balance or the edges.
True, it could be you have invented a particular method for bottoming out. I'm not quite sure what you mean, can you elaborate on your technique?
Flare Skate Blade - Anyone seen this or used it? WIder than typical steel
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Power's the only other guy I've seen use Marleau's lacing pattern.