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I can do the Jump Test via online. But I would need the akates for alignment and such. But yes way better if you could come see for yourself. Let me know!!

The simple answer is the "jump test". . Ex: my don during the jump test had his left heel raise 22mm before the right was ar 5mm off the ground. When landing they were equal. Hence his left skate had a heel lift. How Mr. Kelly determines all of the data is his patented analytic report and work of 15 years. So with your son if we I'd the jump test we could tell you what needed to go where. As you have all the pieces you could just add it to where was needed. As for alingbment he has a knack for seeing your sons foot and alignment is done how he feels he would be balanced via the centers of the boot from manufacturing not from where you think it should be as the appearance of center in the heel for instance is usually incorrect. Hopefully that helps a little more. I'm just the installation guy... hahaha if you'd like I can forward the question? Hes by trade a engineer and has worked for the US military and NASA His skating background is Olympic speedskater, University Hockey Player (with Mike Babcock at McGill) and figure skater. His wife also an Olympic Figure Skater. Not to mention again his father Red Kelly (recently passed) and HHOF member and his mother a figure skating coach. Just incase someone wondered if had ever skated and how he would be qualified for this. Hehehe.

A. It's a shim system and blade alignment. He recommends you use your normal profile as long as it's not something drastically pitched or large combo. Once the skate is balanced you will find the need for drastic profiles isnt as necessary. B: Website. Mr. Kelly wasn't getting much traction and as you all have mentioned it didnt explain as well as it could have what it does. At the time if its release it was only himself doing the work in Lake Placid. Since he started working with the Leaf and Tampa players we connected through the skating coach and have I convinced him we could take it to the masses. So bear with it as we do the best possible to bring it forward. If there is anything you all would like to see on it I can pass it along and I can try and get them to add it.

Well thanks for that and you are correct I have done that hence why I was trying to be a little vague. So basically its shimming and a alignment of a skate for each person individual needs. Sometimes they are front sometimes rear. Mr. Kelly has worked out a process that is pretty darn accurate and takes the guess work out for EQM. Some the players can actually test the ice temp and adjust extra inside the skate to maintain the same feeling. Not sure what else there is to explain? It's a patented system to evaluate so I don't know how it determines what everyone needs I just install as asked.

Well sorry you feel that way. However I didnt start the thread not do I know the person who did. And if i wanted to promote it i would simply as @JR Boucicaut for a promo pack and do so. But honestly I'm to busy to take more clients at this time. I'll I was aiming to to do was to answer questions so that the information was correct. Feel free to have the thread deleted. PS: I was one of the first on this board so I can understand your point.

Its available now but only at my shop. Or in Lake Placid at Mr. Kelly's shop. Oh and key part its it's not recommended for kids 13 and under as the growth changes means it would need to be altered more frequently. However as mentioned above by @Vet88 blade alignment like in figure skating is a key part and many good figure shops could align a hockey skate.

Anything he has is not Sports Stability Systems. However he has an appt hooked.

Right now the coat of the full service prohibits most from getting it done. However we have come up with a less expensive version. That can be done for everyone.

You are incorrect. All adjustments are mild and no heel cupping is involved. Also all blades are realigned for each skaters personal needs. However I will forward thos and get you the exact clinical reply. And also as indicated on the webpage one of the main reasons is to set the player up for less injuries. That and to enhance performance. Its had over a year of proven success at the highest level with less injuries and improved performance from the majority of the 50 plus players using the system. Including my own son.

Fire away. The website is being redone as we speak. If you look at Mathews skates in some pictures you can see the "boosts" Below is Mark Jankowsky of the Calgary Flames. The first portion that is done is a jump test. The test tells where you take off and land and the differences between legs. Next is an on ice assessment. After that the boot is measured and all data goes into a program that has been designed over the last 15 years. After the "Boosts" are added mainly on the exterior between holder and boot. Some may go inside but depends on player preference. Mr. Kelly as noted above an extensive skating history as well as an impressive Engineering background. Every single NHL player and for that matter any player I have worked with in the last year swears by it. If I can't answer the question I will get Mr. Kelly to reply.

Ohhh hahaha. You coming to visit at the Toyota Center?? Arrive Saturday

Posted a note from Mr. Kelly on the other thread.

I would say if your ordering roller you would be safe. Just have it marked on the sheet new tounge. The rest should all be new.

The site will be redone. I do the tests in Toronto now. There are 2 different ways it's now done. Here is a better updated explanation and name as it's now being used for all sports with footwear. Golf, Track, Football ETC.. Sport Stability Systems of “Reddog Hockey” founder Patrick Kelly After following in the footsteps of his father “Red” and playing on an elite track in hockey, Kelly discovered his gift of speed. While playing USports (formerly CIS) hockey for McGill University and studying aeronautical engineering, Kelly decided to make the switch to speed skating, eventually competing in thirteen national championships, four world championships and two Olympics, with best race finishes of 1st, 4th and 6th respectively. It was during the preparation time honing his skating technique and skates, that Kelly began to find unique solutions to stability issues: issues that are also found in the field of aeronautics where Kelly had worked as an engineer on advanced missile systems of the US military. Following the end of his elite competition and being highly proficient and knowledgeable on all forms of skating, Kelly stayed in elite skating sports by working with NHL players, elite speed skaters, and figure skaters. After witnessing the instability of almost all his clients, Kelly realized that these sports needed a systematic method of reducing the instability. After more than ten years of R & D, Kelly had developed this method. While working with the Montreal Canadiens Hockey Club as its skating consultant, Kelly was able to prove the applicability and worth of the method by having NHL players use it successfully. Now the method has been refined and brings even more stability, with over 50 NHL players benefiting this year, including players like Jeff Skinner, James Van Riemsdyk, Zach Parise, Auston Matthews, Max Pacioretty, and Paul Stastny.

iN THE VIDEO THE STORES RECEIVED oops caps lock sorry. Scott explains the difference in materials and that using this new one the skate is lighter and as strong or stronger. So yes it would be a great skate to switch to now. Also, the tongue is amazing my son is 6`1`190 at 15 and growing so fast he had a hard time bending but he got samples of the new tongue midseason and it was an immediate change and improvement. I would say 3 to 5 degrees more forward flexion available. With that and the Hockey Stability System used (formerly Red Dog Hockey Boost), he has gone from the worst single A team in his age group to a top 6 AA team and playing AAA summer hockey. He is 3rd in scoring on the 3rd place team for summer hockey. And he is doing hardly any extra off and on ice training. He can move better and sees the ice better now. (this part kills me he needs to start..LOL)

I am going to check on the patent. Might have a patent pending hence why at this time only available through True Dealers.

I don't think we missed the point at all. Everyone that is in the selling business of True all said something is missing. As protocol wasnt followed by anyone. If it had been then maybe the thicker sole would have been tried but new skates would have been made if that didnt work end of story. That's how it works. If after the 2nd pair this issue persisted then I think everyone would say oh..well why dont you try X skate.... but that didnt happen. So people that sell are scratching there heads going huh??

Up close it looks liken no other skate out there. And the blade comes out so much easier and locks in better than anything else. And I'm a huge fan of the new XS holder. I would have said the XS would have taken over if this one had not have come out. I know @Nicholas G agrees. The only issue I can see at this early time is that it may only be available from a True Dealer.......but I am not sure that's set in stone yet.

I dont know how to multi quote so .... Some pros are getting it now but for production its July 15th

Probably an 8 or 9 but it would be in the same proportion going up and down

No its not just the holder. The boot is lighter by a lot. They use a new style of carbon fiber that is lighter and stronger. The new tongue is lighter and more protective as well as way more comfortable and allows even more forward flexion than a traditional tongue. The new holder and quick release blade system are lighter with a faster and more reliable quick release system (Plus other cool features of the blade and holder) All in all the boot holder is now 110 grams lighter! Details available July 15th.

Not sure who you spoke to but that is not the policy at the factory. If it was a depth issue and thicker reds didnt help then the next procedure is re-scan and remake. Its simple. There is no question that's the policy. You have had 2 pairs prior you said so then it should just happen ...... Unless there is more to the story.

The Word from the PHATS show is a resounding approval of the new holder overall from the NHL trainers. Seeing as most still have stock on Bauer mainly I would think it will be a year before there is a large change. Got to sharpen a pair tonight, one of my pro clients. Wow.. easiest of any quick release with very little effort to take the blade out. And there is no way that thing is falling out. If I didn't get in trouble I'd post. But WOW... its actually better than I thought it would be. You guys are in for a treat. !!

Holders are not available yet. However trainers I now that have had a look.. and these are Vetran guys.. "game changer.. will take over next season" 20/21

Exactly. 😉