oldtrainerguy28

I was simply referring to my clients and some of the bad experiences they have had. That's all.

Why would I be surprised at the number of players no knowing what they use? I have been sharpening for 30 years! poorly educated staff regardless of the machine is the issue in every shop.

They didnt even know it was an issue. As i have seen with others from the US that came in. Not everyone knows what's good and bad.

They followed the instructions. Place skate in slot. Close slot. Push button. Besides I thought these eliminated human error? I have roughly 7 customers that have these. ALL come for profile and adjustments during the season. They are not perfect machines. If you have no knowledge of skate sharpening things can go wrong.

The machine wasnt calibrated properly. Or something was very wrong with it.

Under warranty. Get them replaced.

Check the blade alignment

We had a client use solvents to clean a goal mask (One of the plastic type) After they painted it. After a month so.eone took a snapshot and it went through the helmet where it was now soft and gave them a brain injury. Why play with fire? It would be good to see the results of your test though.

I'm on the CSA board. Most of the information is available on the sites. I'm not the head form expert on the board but my understanding is there is a significant difference in the way the helmet sits for hockey and football. The main reason for going with MIPS technology is that it has a better effect on rotational impacts notnkn direct impacts. Therefore, with hockey concussions being 80% rotational the big reason for going to the MIPS technology. As for the head form and neck form as stated I'm not the expert but every expert and scientist on the board or as a guest has said there tests are not realistic and would not give the same a answers if hockey headforms were used. I'll try and think of a good analogy.

The tongue is very pliable. No need to remold.

Never use nail polish on a helmet ever!

Kinda is......Just saying. Discussing whether or not the new True helmet will get a good rating or not. I think with the Mips it will do well. Yes, I know biased.

Let me see if I can clarify as I do not pay as much attention to the details of the head forms because I do not understand all that is entailed in the whole thing. But I do my best in the meetings to understand the main points. The head forms VT uses are football head forms. Therefore the head form is not attached tot he head the same and is modified to do so. The IE and HECC and CSA all use a standardized head form for hockey helmets. They all fit and are attached the same way. However, VT uses a modified neck form that NOBODY else uses to attempt to simulate rotational impacts. The neck form used is made in a way that is not the way a hockey player would take a hit and the end result would be squed, from an actual real-life playing situation. My understanding is all the hockey helmet testing programs have been vigorously working over the last 4 years to come up with a test for rotational impacts and the present hockey helmet using the head form used in testing now. It's not as simple as sticking a head form on a neck form and calling the test results facts. So far all the testing has given non-consistant data and hence why there is no set program yet for rotational impact testing.

Actually I have stated numerous times about the sub standard or incorrect head forms they are using that do not meet the standard of which all other bodies use to test the helmets. They have made up there own forms and used neck forms that are made for other helmets and other sports. Cant be much clearer than that.

Can't wait to see the see the results. That happens when a company wont send a helmet to be tested VT then had to purchase all the helmets

Ya cause the VT test means anything when it comes to safety. Completely useless and such a croc.

1. The edge checker is off 1 o the other. 2. What ever hollow was done on the manual machine will feel deeper than the portable as it sounds like your friend use good even pressure. All my clients say my sharpening feels sharper than there home machine.

No idea bu they were destroyed. 2 sets had no toe an heels left.

Wow. God sharpeners? And actually it is an art. Offended? Not at all. But when someone like myself that always is looking to improve the way they do things and always is out to help a new sharpener, if it is a parent or an employee kind of a slap to some of us that's for sure. Some of the people I have trained are now. 2 in the OHL: 1 Team Canada 1 Team China (Highest paid female EQM in the world) I take a ton of pride in my job as a sharpener and educator. You want to bash the guys that have been doing it forever go right ahead. Oh, wait that's what Sparx did when they started in their very first Ad Campaign. (Use our machine Pro Shops are useless) I was hoping to come on this thread now and help educate some of the lesser experienced sharpeners as I have had 3 customers that have ruined their steel with a Sparx machine. Seems like the knowledge is not required. Next time maybe use a little less of a wide brush when painting all the experienced sharpeners on the board. Especially the ones that have been here since DAY 1 and before. Have an amazing day!!!! 🙂

Even more so with the Wanna Be sharpeners at home that read a few things here and there and call themselves experts yet have never actually sharpened a skate in real life. There are some great parents that really do try and do a great job and have only distant access to a real professional. Or maybe their town doesn't really have one.

So surprised it took that long for someone to actually answer the question correctly. If you skate on that part of the blade front or back your already on the ground. Its impossible to skate on either portion. Lower the wheel and don't waiste the steel. It only further reduces a good profile you may have.

You would need to contact for price. In Toronto with me the basic including alignment and profile and internal parts is 250. My apologies if stepping on boundries. Gladly delete and PM if it allowed.

The treadmill and in ice is the full blown package where he comes to you depending on distance. lifts external and so on. it's not cheap or for the once a week player. The over the net package most can do. And works surprisingly well if your blades are well aligned

Red dog hockey boost is your best solution if you want it done once and are keeping the skates for a long period. Guessing is no longer an issue only slight minor internal tweaks would be done after.

Or.... you could take the steel out.. heat the holder with a hair dryer in that area and re install. Hair dryer isnt hot enough to damage. Heat gun as JR mentioned Nooooooooo. Only other option is taking the holder off.