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JR Boucicaut

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The fit completely changed between the one90 and one95. The TotalOne is another change in boot design and internal materials... keep reaching maybe you'll find a valid point somewhere.

I guess you just want Bauer to pull a Reebok and redesign the same skate over and over with a different graphics package? If anyone's price should be dropping it's Reebok, not Bauer.

Different fit ? Obviously but not so different than the on95 they dont want to lose their cash cows...

Design ? yeah they put some yellow instead of blue. The key concept "negative space" is still there. The design is exactly the same than the one95.. change in boot design?? have you actually seen the skates or just read the tech specs on IWH ? You may refer to some invisible changes (that actually exist) but that are minor, don't change anything for you and most of all don't excuse the price... they are basically here just to be able to put the adjective "new" in the specs. You can call that improvement. But i dont call that something completely new.

Material ? Still their alive thing. New inner liner wooouuuhh

In any case you will never have this "feeling" to skate in a totally newly designed generation of skates with these, like when you went from the classic supreme to ONE90...

A Porsche 911 and a Porsche 911 GT3 look a fair bit alike but they are completely different in all other areas, just because they look similar doesn't mean they are the same.

Again, you dont know what you are talking about ... they are both out of date (bagpack design) and both very dangerous for the average driver.. you need to be pilot to really exploit the potential of the car.. but at least in the GT3 you get a real race engine from the old GT1(completely different from the crap in the carrera that tends to crack by itself after a while), excellent damper system (so efficient that it's more confortable than the standart carrera)... Dont rely too much on the videos where Tiff Needell sideways skidding with one finger on the wheel and talking to the camera at the same time... you are not Tiff Needell.

The only thing maybe you can compare the TO to the GT3 RS with a lot of similarities in their definition of "limited edition".

But you probably have no idea how a company works, makes profits, etc...

Indeed if Bauer customers (like you, werent you absolutely thrilled with the new liner of the X60 ?? :D ) are satisfied with minor changes that doesnt change shit compared to the previous generation.. I would do the same. In these skates you don't buy a technology you buy a price. The price is probably part of the whole marketing process ("it says it all") no need to look at the shit it's VERY expensive thus excellent ! Can't be otherwise! On top of that let's make them believe it's a limited edition just in case of IQ increase and to make sure people will even fight to get a pair. But absolutely nothing explains the price. That's a good one though. I definitely admire how Bauer fucks his customers and take them for fuckfaces B)

Im still quite amazed that very few people here seem to be shocked by the price...

To me these skates are again a big "finger"

Anyway if bauer is where he is now and has a name it's assuredly not because of all the crap they have been coming up with lately X60 and TO.

But please don't forget as well to be numerous to crack your 800quids for this rehased beauty. Im still looking for some new skates but fortunately not in a hurry.. thanks to all of you maybe they will withdraw the fingers from their ass and finally pull out some REAL new stuff next year B)

On that note I let you guys peacefully jerk off on the new inner, CHANGES of the internal materiel, aluminum of the runner that saves 10g !!, JR's slight improvement sensations.. etc

Ciao

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.. change in boot design?? have you actually seen the skates or just read the tech specs on IWH ?

Have you actually seen the skates or are you a Reebok/CCM fanboy doing exactly the same thing you are denigrating others for?

Also, way to pound your point home w/ the liberal use of profanity. Classy.

Full disclosure: I'm a current Bauer user but I've tried Vectors, 9Ks, and 1500Cs in recent years.

Perhaps you forget that some people prefer Bauer b/c it fits their foot the best...the same reason some people love Reeboks or CCMs or Eastons.

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OK Vathsdrop, you're right about the price, 800 is way to much for a pair of skates and I had a big argument around here that the one100 is very expensive (argument, think of the difference in price, one95 with the one100, same skate, versus the one90 and one75, again same skate, the one75 was way cheaper than the one90 when they came out versus the one100 with the one95), but stop saying crap about Bauer and how they come every year with the same skate. You say good things about RBK, what's so great about them? They just discovered the surlyn boot and it had to be Bauer that came up with the idea of the dual liner, if you read the specs on the 11k they're copyed from the X60, same concepts, from the liner, quarter panels, tongue, you name it. On another note, I have friends with 9k that play very low level hockey, take great care of their skates and still have leaking bladders. Let's look now to the U+, negative space idea with a smart foam, so great of a design they had to re-release the skate after a year. Bauer is the brand that comes year after year with a great skate all around, no doubts there from the performance to the durability you name it. Sure they build on an existing model and don't come with a revolutionary new skate every year, but that's how they make year after year great skates. You keep saying that the ONE90 and the ONE95 and the TO are the same thing, to me the ALIVE found in the ONE95 and TO is years ahead of the ONE90 and many many years ahead of what everybody else is doing. But who am I to try to convince you to buy Bauer, buy whatever you want, it's your money. If you believe that Reeboks are better skates and give you a boost of convidence making you a better player enjoy your Reeboks than, but think of it this way, 70% of the NHL players know what they're doing when they chose Bauer for skates.

In conclusion, the TotalONE is porno-expensive :P

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Its like audiophiles and guitar whores I known (me included). The casual listener isnt going to hear much difference between a super high end amp or guitar, and a cheaper one, but the guitar player does. The difference in performance at the very high levels is small but expensive. Going from a $100 pair of skates to a $500 pair of skates, you will clearly see the massive upgrade for your $400. Going from $500 to $800 the jump isnt going to be as noticeable to the layman. But these skates arent for the layman. Apples and Oranges. They are for the elite level player looking for every competetive edge they can get, and for the gear whore that can afford them. The technological advances are there, and are obvious. Are they worth it? That depends on the individual.

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"I learned long ago never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."

Cyrus Ching

Very well said DarkStar something in the lines, and I know I'm going to have people jumping at my throat, "Arguing with an idiot is like running in the special olympics, even if you win, you're still retarded"

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Very well said DarkStar something in the lines, and I know I'm going to have people jumping at my throat, "Arguing with an idiot is like running in the special olympics, even if you win, you're still retarded"

Actually, you should have people jumping at your throat as this is quite insulting for the athletes who participate at the special olymipics and handicapped people whatever their handicap may be. Many of these athletes are blind, lost a limb or have other types of physical handicaps. Not all of them mentally handicapped (for a lack of a better term)

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And I see you didn't get it's a joke, a cruel and nasty joke, but still a joke. Now let's stick to the subject on hand the TotalONE skate

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Really bad joke. go watch sled hockey once and you'll thank God every day ......................

Thanks DS.

Sebseb, I did realize it was a joke and got it. It's just not funny and you brought it upon yourself to be critisized, and rightfully so for that lame joke.

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Really bad joke. go watch sled hockey once and you'll thank God every day ......................

Anyone notice the USA Hockey magazine article on the sled team. I couldnt help but laugh at a couple of the players stats. One guy was listed at 5'9"...yet he had no legs. ????? Sorry, off topic I know.

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Ok, I'll take it back. Like I said it was a mean joke but don't for a second think I'm ignorant and don't respect the people with handicaps, especially the ones that better themselves in a contest like the special olympics. I guess those are really the guys that go over their limits every time and evolve into a better human being without getting the paychecks that professional athlets get and DarkStar, believe me I tahnk God every day that I'm healthy and in one piece. Like I said it was a mean joke, I'll be honest I laughed when I heard it the first time, and I didn't thought is going to be such a big case because it's impersonal, Eric you're talking about a real guy here.

Oh can please a mod delete the last posts because we're getting way of topic here.

Not so funny joke, horrible sense of humor now can we please get back on topic

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Anyone notice the USA Hockey magazine article on the sled team. I couldnt help but laugh at a couple of the players stats. One guy was listed at 5'9"...yet he had no legs. ????? Sorry, off topic I know.

How old are you? Life has a way of humbling you through the years. You should keep that in mind, instead of willfully being a jerk.

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How old are you? Life has a way of humbling you through the years. You should keep that in mind, instead of willfully being a jerk.

I wasnt laughing at the player or his disability, but laughing at the magazine and the reported height. Perhaps that wasnt clear to you. But instead of assuming the worst and calling names, just ask me to clarify.

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I wasnt laughing at the player or his disability, but laughing at the magazine and the reported height. Relax.

And you felt the need to express this to the world via the Internet. Good judgment.

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Ok, I think this has been beaten to death enough. Let's get back on topic:

DS, JR, after wearing the skates for almost 3 months now have you guys found any wear along the total comfort area of the boot? My skates normally come undone right on the corner above the top eyelet and I'm curious if this material is tough enough around the edges to not get cut up/worn out super easily.

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And you felt the need to express this to the world via the Internet. Good judgment.

You misinterpreted my post. Let it go. If you feel the need to chastise me, do it via PM please.

Back on topic.

Perhaps someone can answer this. I originally went from a one55 to an Easton s15. The difference was VERY noticable, in both weight and response. I now skate in custon s15s which are a bit heavier than retail. Will I notice a definitive increase in response and decrease in weight if I go to a Total one? Anyone with experience in these skates think it is worth the $?

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Ok, I think this has been beaten to death enough. Let's get back on topic:

DS, JR, after wearing the skates for almost 3 months now have you guys found any wear along the total comfort area of the boot? My skates normally come undone right on the corner above the top eyelet and I'm curious if this material is tough enough around the edges to not get cut up/worn out super easily.

I have been planning an updated 3 month review this week. I can answer that question right now about wear at the top of the boot: After 3 months, my TOs show no wear at all there. They still look brand new. I wear my shin pads over the tongue so they are sitting on the top of the boot with no problem. I also lace to the top eyelet.

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The sad thing about an idiot is that they're too stupid to realize they're an idiot. :rolleyes:

..Hopefully one idiot won't ruin this thread.

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Tried the skates on today at the Lets Play Hockey show. 1st time I've actually tried on any of the newer Supreme skates.

They fit me very well, I loved the feel of the tongue especially. Might have to pick a pair up in April!

I've been wearing size 7D Vapor X-60s for almost a year now and was surprised when I went to try on a pair of the TotalOnes in 7D and they were way too big. Size 6.5D fit me much better.

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I wear my shin pads over the tongue so they are sitting on the top of the boot with no problem

Interesting...I was wondering if the new tongue would need to be worn over the shin pads due to the way they flex...so, no problems?

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I have been skating with tongue under shin pads for a long time. The Reflex tongue has performed with no problems using this set up. JR wears his tongue outside the shin pad. He would be the one to ask if that is your set up.

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