The 2010-2011 Suspension Thread

[maxamillion 3]

I have never wished bodily harm on another human outside of the taliban, but I wish Brassard smashed Cookes face in there. If it was me, glove would be off and my fist through his face immediately. It'd be my one chance to take him out and be a hero to the game of hockey.

[WSjo22 1]

Other Pens fans wanted suspensions for the Steckel hit and Hedman hit but Cookes hit is Tyutin fault for turning? It's not like Tyutin turned at the last second. Matt Cooke had plenty of time to not plaster him from behind but still did, he's a coward and I'm sick of his crap.... This is coming from a Pens fan as well

[EBondo 233]

Other Pens fans wanted suspensions for the Steckel hit and Hedman hit

I'm a Flyers fan and I thought Hedman deserved something for the Crosby hit. The Steckel hit though, I can't see anything warranting a suspension on that. Neither player saw the other, it was a freak accident, and nothing more. There was no intent to injure Crosby...I thought the League handled that one well.

[Buzz_LightBeer 969]

he could ...... but I doubt it. Tuytin , turned his head an saw cooke coming , then turned his back just before cooke hit him. Plus the fact that fedor wasnt injured = doubtfull that cooke will get anything

Were we watching the same replay? Turned his back to the hit? At what point was Tyutin ever facing Cooke?

[Drewhunz 3]

Were we watching the same replay? Turned his back to the hit? At what point was Tyutin ever facing Cooke?

Fear not Buzz. Another Pitt homer.

[BenderHockey 127]

Were we watching the same replay? Turned his back to the hit? At what point was Tyutin ever facing Cooke?

Maybe he isn't like the rest of humans. Perhaps he has eyes in the small of his back.

It really takes a true coward and asshole to put your shoulder right between someones numbers in the back with the intent to drill them into the boards.

[zachary 2]

Please point out where he turns his head and sees that please. I didnt catch it.

On the video that was posted he looks right before it cuts to the close up. FSN Pittsburgh showed good looks of it but the person didn't include it in the video.

As soon as I saw him riding him into the boards I was for sure he was getting a boarding but they gave him a 5 min for charging I think?

[WSjo22 1]

On the video that was posted he looks right before it cuts to the close up. FSN Pittsburgh showed good looks of it but the person didn't include it in the video.

As soon as I saw him riding him into the boards I was for sure he was getting a boarding but they gave him a 5 min for charging I think?

Since when does a player knowing someone is coming have any impact on whether a hit from behind is dirty or not? I'm not a rules expert but I passed my refs exam, I don't recall reading anywhere that hits from behind are okay if the other player saw you coming sometime before you plaster them from behind 5 feet off the wall

[RadioGaGa 162]

Hearings today for Cooke and Volchenkov

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=353058

[bandits_5 18]

Since when does a player knowing someone is coming have any impact on whether a hit from behind is dirty or not? I'm not a rules expert but I passed my refs exam, I don't recall reading anywhere that hits from behind are okay if the other player saw you coming sometime before you plaster them from behind 5 feet off the wall

if he turns his back right befor cook hits him , thers now way cooke can stop.........kinda like , if you (cooke) went to sit (hit) down in a chair , and 3/4 of the way down , i (Tuytin) pull the chair out from under you. your ass is still gonna hit the floor. You cant recover once your commited.

but we will see. as radio said , hearings today.......and it is Matt Cooke , after all, on a super star , fedor tutyin. I mean if it was , say , victor hedman doing it to a nobody , like sidney crosby......well then its ok

[IniNew 53]

if he turns his back right befor cook hits him , thers now way cooke can stop.........kinda like , if you (cooke) went to sit (hit) down in a chair , and 3/4 of the way down , i (Tuytin) pull the chair out from under you. your ass is still gonna hit the floor. You cant recover once your commited.

but we will see. as radio said , hearings today.......and it is Matt Cooke , after all, on a super star , fedor tutyin. I mean if it was , say , victor hedman doing it to a nobody , like sidney crosby......well then its ok

Tyutin does not once look back and see Cooke lining up for the hit. He is playing the puck; however, Cooke completely disregards the puck, puts his hand at upper-chest level and drives Tuytin from between the shoulder blades (way off the center of gravity) into the boards face first. Boarding, and deserves a suspension for repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat offenses.

[maxamillion 3]

not to mention the fact that HE LEAPS INTO THE HIT. seriously, take the blinders off.

[bandits_5 18]

Tyutin does not once look back and see Cooke lining up for the hit. He is playing the puck; however, Cooke completely disregards the puck, puts his hand at upper-chest level and drives Tuytin from between the shoulder blades (way off the center of gravity) into the boards face first. Boarding, and deserves a suspension for repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat offenses.

educate yourself on the specific incident and watch more than one video. Tuytin clearly looks right at cooke , within a second of getting hit.

but like I said before , its matt cooke.

im a pens fan and i do NOT like matt cooke. never did never will. but at the same time im not a homer who tries to justify everything for the home town team. Im just stating my opinion. Id feel the same way if it woulda been avery or darcy tucker. Im probably one of the only pens fans who didnt find anything wrong with the hedman or steckle hits to crosby. i thought crosby turned his back late on the hedman hit, just like tuytin did . and i thought that steckle never saw crosby coming . Move on , its hockey.

And i will no longer argue how I feel about the hit. my opinion is my opinion , and for what its worth it means nothing , but its how i feel and im entitled.

[maxamillion 3]

you're opinion is completely biased. he's looking back to check where his teammates are as you do, and Cooke comes in, leaves his feed, and drills him between the shoulders after seeing numbers the whole time. that's like, to use your analogy, seeing someone pull the chair away, and still going to sit in it anyway.

[zachary 2]

Since when does a player knowing someone is coming have any impact on whether a hit from behind is dirty or not? I'm not a rules expert but I passed my refs exam, I don't recall reading anywhere that hits from behind are okay if the other player saw you coming sometime before you plaster them from behind 5 feet off the wall

I didn't say whether it was dirty or not. I'm just simply stating that Tyutin looked over his shoulder prior to picking the puck up in the corner. Go to 1:50 of this video.

What I think happened was Tyutin used his body as a shield and didn't expect Cooke to come in as hard as he did since he was facing the glass. I thought for sure Tyutin was gonna be knocked out.

[HattrickSwayze 3]

if he turns his back right befor cook hits him , thers now way cooke can stop.........kinda like , if you (cooke) went to sit (hit) down in a chair , and 3/4 of the way down , i (Tuytin) pull the chair out from under you. your ass is still gonna hit the floor. You cant recover once your commited.

but we will see. as radio said , hearings today.......and it is Matt Cooke , after all, on a super star , fedor tutyin. I mean if it was , say , victor hedman doing it to a nobody , like sidney crosby......well then its ok

Cooke saw Tyutin's numbers from the hash marks and still lined him up. Not only that, but he left his feet. Tyutin made a play that defenseman do tons of times every game, and it's the forwards responsibilty to hold up and not hit them from behind. It's no different than a high stick. You can't carry your stick head high, hitting people in the face and saying "Oh well your head was in the way of my stick." It doesn't work that way, you're responsible for your actions. Whether Tyutin saw Cooke or not doesn't matter. He didn't turn at the last second and put himself in a vulnerable position, he looked to see where the forechecker was so he could make a play with the puck.

You think this hit on Tyutin was OK, but the hit on Crosby wasn't? Make up your mind. Is a hit from behind acceptable or not? I'm assuming you think Cooke trying to decapitate Marc Savard was a good hockey play too, but want Steckel dead for incidental contact with Crosby.

[IniNew 53]

http://imgur.com/a/qYNqP

Tuytin never looked back at Cooke. He was playing the puck.

And for fun, I added a screen cap of Cooke jumping into the hit. Have fun.

[lampliter87 8]

You guys have played hockey, right? This is a pretty routine scenario marred by a cheap hit.

1. Puck gets dumped into zone.

2. D goes back to get puck, looks over shoulder to see there is a player coming. Shields puck with body appropriately.

3. Forechecker does not let up, continues on high speed path, does not even pretend to attempt to avoid prone defenseman, and jumps into defenseman's back, putting him head-first into the boards.

If that's not a cheap hit I have no idea what is... how anyone could pretend to defend this particular play is beyond me.

[skeeter14 0]

http://imgur.com/a/qYNqP

Tuytin never looked back at Cooke. He was playing the puck.

And for fun, I added a screen cap of Cooke jumping into the hit. Have fun.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_fw7iF68JR8k/TVIwzRur2_I/AAAAAAABkv4/pm3ixdIw638/s800/Cooke.jpg

Not saying the hit wasn't bad, just posting this to point out it looks like Tuytin did in fact look at Cooke and knew he was coming

*Full Disclosure* I'm a Pens fan

[Allsmokenopancake 0]

Jeremy Roenick on XM Home Ice this morning (transcribed via puckdaddy, they have the audio and full story also)

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Roenick-Matt-Cooke-is-chicken-excrement-deserv?urn=nhl-318976&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Roenick: "Does it surprise you? Does it surprise you that Matt Cooke would be so ..."

Ross: "Dumb?"

Roenick: "Chickenshit, and do that?

"Right from behind. Blatant from behind. Fedor Tyutin didn't even turn. Didn't move. Was standing there for three or four seconds, and he still hit him from behind."

Roenick: "Not one second did he see anything but his name and his number. It goes back to so many different things that I talk about when it comes to the respect factor. Matt Cooke, No. 1, doesn't have respect for anyone. He's one of the least favorite guys in the League by the players for a reason. Hitting Savard, having that all situation ... granted, you decide what you think on that. But this situation last night is exactly what gives players bad names, gives guys bad names. It's why we have injuries. It's why someone's going to get either paralyzed or killed on the ice one of these days. Because of idiot, idiot, idiot people and plays like Matt Cooke did last night."

Roenick: "That situation last night did not happen instinctively. It did not happen quickly. He had three or four seconds to make up his mind and drive those numbers into the glass."

"That's a situation where you take Matt Cooke, because of his history, into the office and you give him 20 games flat. Twenty games, gone, thanks for coming."

There is more in the link, including talk of Volchenkov etc

[IniNew 53]

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_fw7iF68JR8k/TVIwzRur2_I/AAAAAAABkv4/pm3ixdIw638/s800/Cooke.jpg

Not saying the hit wasn't bad, just posting this to point out it looks like Tuytin did in fact look at Cooke and knew he was coming

*Full Disclosure* I'm a Pens fan

You honestly expect Tyutin to derive that, being over 4 strides away means Cooke going to jump square into his numbers from behind?

[Allsmokenopancake 0]

Volchenkov gets three games per @Real_ESPN_Lebrun

[lampliter87 8]

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_fw7iF68JR8k/TVIwzRur2_I/AAAAAAABkv4/pm3ixdIw638/s800/Cooke.jpg

Not saying the hit wasn't bad, just posting this to point out it looks like Tuytin did in fact look at Cooke and knew he was coming

*Full Disclosure* I'm a Pens fan

read my post directly above yours

[maxamillion 3]

If tyutin didn't get up to get in the scrum, I'd say Cooke'd be gone for a while. but because he didn't fein injury, the league might overlook it and give cooke 5 games.

[chippa13 1844]

As bad as this sounds, I absolutely can't wait until Cooke receives a nice little concussion so he can find out first hand what the results of his cheap ass shit does to people. He has officially reached Ulf Samuelsson/Claude Lemieux status in my book of players that I wouldn't mind seeing injured.