The 2010-2011 Suspension Thread

[IniNew 53]

Nearly impossible to find a video, however, Murray's hit on Vincour was much more questionable than the Eriksson hit.

edit: http://watch.tsn.ca/featured/clip433813#clip433813

45 seconds in is the Murray-Vincour hit.

[t6lock 24]

Heatley suspended 2 games for an elbow to Steve Ott's head.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=358265

Personally, I thought the Murray hit on Eriksson was worse.

[Chadd 916]

Nearly impossible to find a video, however, Murray's hit on Vincour was much more questionable than the Eriksson hit.

edit: http://watch.tsn.ca/featured/clip433813#clip433813

45 seconds in is the Murray-Vincour hit.

Wow, good call.

[t6lock 24]

I don't think the Vincour hit was that bad. Looks like Murray was just trying to curl around him with his body and Vincour turned into the Murray elbow. A big factor for me is how Murray lifts his right leg up and kind of curls to the left.

[lampliter87 8]

In no way defending the Weight hit posted above... but Jesus, what are you doing reaching for the puck in the neutral zone with your head down when you know there's a guy coming??

[Chadd 916]

In no way defending the Weight hit posted above... but Jesus, what are you doing reaching for the puck in the neutral zone with your head down when you know there's a guy coming??

because the guys that pull up get a bad reputation for being timid?

[lampliter87 8]

Reaching for the puck like that is one of the easiest ways to get hurt. If a macho reputation is what you're looking for, you put your shoulder down and run the guy over.

[hamstercaster 2]

That elbow Umberger got didn't look all too bad but given that he's had concussion problems in the past doesn't help Marchand's case.

I disagree. You clearly see Marchand bring his elbow up a second or two before hitting Umberger. If you look closely, Marchamd lift his elbow and just continues towards Umberger and hits him behind the neck while looking the other way as though he knows what's about to happen but wants to make it seem like an accident. At least, that's my interpretation of the hit.

[bostonjuniorblackhawks 1]

I disagree. You clearly see Marchand bring his elbow up a second or two before hitting Umberger. If you look closely, Marchamd lift his elbow and just continues towards Umberger and hits him behind the neck while looking the other way as though he knows what's about to happen but wants to make it seem like an accident. At least, that's my interpretation of the hit.

yeah. That was a stupid decision on Marchand's part

[chippa13 1844]

Reaching for the puck like that is one of the easiest ways to get hurt. If a macho reputation is what you're looking for, you put your shoulder down and run the guy over.

Age old hockey adage: Take a hit to make a play. Guys that don't do that get labeled as soft and that reputation is a tough one to shake.

[zachary 2]

Not trying to take away from the elbowing action but I'm saying is it looked worse than it probably was.

[Tailboard Jockey 25]

My only issue with the Murray hit is that the only real point of contact is up at the head. Murray was coming from enough of an angle that there was no need to go to the head on the check, he could have gone body to body and made an equally effective play. It was not as if the guy skates directly into Murray, contrary to the color commentary, he skated into the path that Murray was taking to make the hit. I will give Murray credit for making a play on the puck, a lot of guys just ignore the puck in that situation and just go for the kill shot. That said, had he gone all out to make a play on the puck and not been more concerned about making a hit, I think it ends up as a minor collision and nobody is hurt. Long story short, no suspension, but certainly the type of play that should be a concern. Guys more interested in making a hit than making a play. I do agree about the hit on Wallin as well, that is the type of "legal" hit that is causing a lot of the injuries.

Murray didn't hit Eriksson in the head. His left shoulder hit Eriksson in the left shoulder.

[IniNew 53]

Murray didn't hit Eriksson in the head. His left shoulder hit Eriksson in the left shoulder.

He did hit him in the head, watch the replay. But it was a play of circumstance. A "hockey play" so to say.

[phunky_monkey 6]

I agree. I see it as an incident rather than a suspendable offence for sure.

[Tailboard Jockey 25]

He did hit him in the head, watch the replay. But it was a play of circumstance. A "hockey play" so to say.

Looking at it again, you and Chadd are right. Murray's shoulder hits Eriksson's jaw first and follows through to his shoulder.

[jschlenske 0]

What do you guys think of the Lecavalier slash on Subban?

Personally I think that it shouldn't have gone this far as the refs should have called both of them for the 20-30 seconds before the incident. Subban gave Lecavalier a pretty heavy slash in the forearm/wrist and Lecavalier answers with a two hander to the hip/thigh area. It really got heated as soon as Subban slewfoots Lecavalier at the 1:10 mark of the video.

[hamstercaster 2]

What do you guys think of the Lecavalier slash on Subban?

Personally I think that it shouldn't have gone this far as the refs should have called both of them for the 20-30 seconds before the incident. Subban gave Lecavalier a pretty heavy slash in the forearm/wrist and Lecavalier answers with a two hander to the hip/thigh area. It really got heated as soon as Subban slewfoots Lecavalier at the 1:10 mark of the video.

It definitly never should have gone that far. They both exchanged a few cross checks before it finally came to the two hand chop on Subban. Subban is becoming more and more a marked man. I don't care that the whole league is after him for his yappin, that's pretty childish from the other players' part but he's beginning to cross the line at times and that I don't agree with.

However, Lecavalier is quick to attack Subban as being dirty and all while IMO, Lecavalier is also a very dirty player who does most of "dirty work" behind the play and thus only rarely gets caught. Either way, there is no place for that kind of attitude from Lecavalier. Although he hit Subban on the pants, I think that we all know that there are some parts that are not as well protected as others and even then, with a two hander of that magnitude you can certainly feel it for a moment or two.

[zachary 2]

Subban's slewfoot and his two chops behind the net went uncalled for what reasons I don't know. I probably would have did the same but went for his ankle. Can't stand him.

[chippa13 1844]

That was all part of what seems to be the "fair game rule" in front of the net during a powerplay. I don't agree with it but is seems that as long as neither player hits the ice during a scoring opportunity then anything goes. That said, since when does a chop on the arm put you face down on the ice?

[Krev 86]

Two hander across the thigh pad and he goes down in a heap? Get up Subban, you're a disgrace.

[troy 12]

I definitely have a smoke/fire stance with Subban, everyone around the league just seems to hate him. Also, what Krev said.

[chippa13 1844]

Dion Phaneuf redux.

[ggreen 0]

The league did not suspend Patric Hornqvist for his elbow on Tyler Seguin, but fined him $2500. To me this play seemed to be pretty consistent with what the league has been handing out suspensions for lately so I'm a little surprised.

Here's a video of the hit. It happens around the :47 mark.

[hamstercaster 2]

The league did not suspend Patric Hornqvist for his elbow on Tyler Seguin, but fined him $2500. To me this play seemed to be pretty consistent with what the league has been handing out suspensions for lately so I'm a little surprised.

I was expecting a suspension on that play and honnestly thought Vincent Lecavalier would get suspended too no matter how much people think Subban faked it or not. Isn't it a deliberate attempt to injure? I mean, there's no way Lecavalier could say he didn't mean to slash him and was aiming for the boards or the goal post. I don't see why people are saying he faked it. Maybe he did but there is a legitimate chance that he did feel the hit quite good too and suffered a mild charley-horse or something? I've been hit in that area before and you can usually feel it and lets face it, people in beer league usually don't chop as hard as Lecavalier did. Subban's not my favorite player and I actually find him quite aggravating at times but on this call I think he could legitimatly have felt something. Not game or career ending but just enough to rattle him for a bit. I don't think he pulled a Ribeiro out there.

[chippa13 1844]

Come on, now. Most of us here wear pretty high level pants and we all know that you don't feel anything through those thigh pads.