2011-2012 Suspension thread

[wrangler 157]

I'm not familiar with Kaleta. Does he often lead with his helmet?

[Powerfibers 8]

Kaleta has actually toned it down this year a bit, and he is getting more time on the PK and in important situations. I think over zealous is more his checking style. I don't think he is intentionally trying to hurt anyone, but stupid is as stupid does, I guess.

[steelnation248 101]

Kaleta got 4 games.

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=132436&cmpid=nhl-rxl-twt

[EBondo 233]

I'm not familiar with Kaleta. Does he often lead with his helmet?

Well, you be the judge. This is the third occurrence in the last thirteen months for him, judging by the Shanahan video.

[wrangler 157]

Well, you be the judge. This is the third occurrence in the last thirteen months for him, judging by the Shanahan video.

I was wondering if he does it a lot, but doesn't get called on it that often.

[EBondo 233]

I was wondering if he does it a lot, but doesn't get called on it that often.

Maybe not during the game, but he was fined for the NJD incident, suspended four games for the PHI incident. Not sure if there was any discipline for the headbutt on Toby Enstrom. Every instance was the same though. He backed up, and took 2-3 strides, head first, into the opponents' head/chest. Can't tell me with a straight face you don't think this guy is deliberately trying to hurt people.

"Oh I was just trying to seperate the man from the puck, you know, by driving my helmet into the other guy's face."

I love the quote from Shanahan during his explanation video, where he literally said "This recent history of ramming his head into the faces of opponents, regardless of whether he is trying to free the puck, leads us to believe that this act is intentional."

[wrangler 157]

I can't quite understand the mentality of a guy deliberately doing that, or expecting to get away with it.

Shanahan had a very nice and precise turn of phrase there.

[Chadd 916]

I can't quite understand the mentality of a guy deliberately doing that, or expecting to get away with it.

Shanahan had a very nice and precise turn of phrase there.

He's in the league because he attempts to injure people. That style of play is why he is in the league and it's the only reason he stays in the league. Every team seems to have one (or more) of those guys and it's sickening.

[wrangler 157]

He's in the league because he attempts to injure people. That style of play is why he is in the league and it's the only reason he stays in the league. Every team seems to have one (or more) of those guys and it's sickening.

It seems to me that no one can end that but the league, and I hope that they're beginning to see the light.

[Chadd 916]

It seems to me that no one can end that but the league, and I hope that they're beginning to see the light.

Cooke has made a major effort to change his game. Most of the other agitators don't have his skill level.

[EBondo 233]

Did anyone see this? It was already said Clutterbuck won't face any discipline from it, but man I don't know.

[wrangler 157]

Said by whom? Has the league issued a statement?

EDIT:

Just heard Mike Murphy, NHL senior VP of hockey operations, on NHL LIve, calling it "one of the hazards of being an official in the NHL".

[chippa13 1844]

I'm not sure Clutterbuck knew who he was hitting, he was just swinging blind. Sidenote: real surprised that Lapierre was doing anything but attempting to fight.

[wrangler 157]

I don't think anyone figured that punch was anything but unintentional. In any other sport, I don't know that it would make a difference for disciplinary purposes.

[Law Goalie 147]

It sure looked unintentional, but I wouldn't put anything past Clutterbuck.

[All Flash 49]

So you have to be in control of your stick but not your fists? hhhmmm

[Chadd 916]

I want to know what happened to the other linesman. From day one officials are taught to break up fights together and not on their own. The linesman that got hung out to dry by his partner and didn't follow that one basic rule. I'm not surprised that there was no suspension on the play.

I'm not sure Clutterbuck knew who he was hitting, he was just swinging blind. Sidenote: real surprised that Lapierre was doing anything but attempting to fight.

That's exactly the kind of guy Clutterbuck is usually willing to fight. They're very similar players.

[chippa13 1844]

I had the same thought the first time I saw it, linesman should never go into a scrap alone. It seems like we're seeing more of it recently as there seems to be a dedicated effort to prevent any kind of secondary altercations. We're even seeing referees stepping between guys and that is something that absolutely never happened until recently.

[Chadd 916]

I had the same thought the first time I saw it, linesman should never go into a scrap alone. It seems like we're seeing more of it recently as there seems to be a dedicated effort to prevent any kind of secondary altercations. We're even seeing referees stepping between guys and that is something that absolutely never happened until recently.

I do think you can prevent additional problems if you get there before they start. That said, I like Paul Stewart's ideas on scrums. Don't get there too fast or you'll be doing it all game. Either someone will back down or there will be a fight. Either way, the players will sort it out on their own.

[Chadd 916]

Moreau gets fined for boarding, then drills another guy tonight. Given the fact that it was in back to back games, you have to think a suspension is possible.

[camhockey16 5]

pacioretty will probably be having a hearing with shanaban on monday for the hit on letang

[Chadd 916]

I wouldn't be surprised if there is no suspension on this one. While there is head contact, there was full body contact as well. Letan's shooting motion actually moved his shoulder out of the way. There was also no "finish" to the check. That said, he might also get two games. I think the first is more likely than the second though.

[oldtrainerguy28 478]

As a player that was almost put out of the NHL for hits like this he should know better than anyone what would happen. 3 games should be the penalty here!

[skyscrape 5]

To me it did not look like a body to body hit. It could have been, but it was a half ass hit on Pacioretty's part so I would hold him accountable. I would say 1 game. This one could go either way though. No injury aside from re-arranging Letang's face and Letang got the game winner could lead to no games. But...on the other hand, it is a Penguins player.

[Fire0nIce228 1]

Patches drilled Eaton from behind last year and didnt get any games after recieving a 5 and game for hit from behind.. I think he should get 1 or 2 on this..