Jagr's 20 pound stick training...

[Theo 1]

Hey Folks!

Just read about Jagr and how he trains (after practice) w/ 20 pounds of weight rigged to his stick.

I found this interesting, so I fixed up an old stick of mine with two 10 pound plates on each side towards the bottom of the stick. I'm a pretty strong guy, but just walking around, I imagine this would be a daunting task. I switched to 5 pounds on each side, 10 pounds total. Seems a lot more practical for a nobody like me.

I look forward to just testing this a little in roller. I think mainly for skating purposes, it can help strengthen the core and also improve balance. Also, little things like improving grip and arm strength on your stick, etc. Any other positives or negatives that anyone can see by doing this? I know there is a lot of controversy w/ weighted vests, so I value your opinions.

I just found the whole idea pretty unique, as I've seen stick weights, but usually extreme modest weights like a pound or so.

Thanks.

[ktang 34]

Maybe with weights towards the bottom but also above the normal balance point?

[5 Minute Major 1]

I've done this before. Got the idea from these vids.

[Harv 86]

20lbs is a bit extreme for anyone outside of pro hockey. He is 6'3'' 245 after all.

I think you'll be ok with 10lbs.

[RussianDangler15 0]

Yea if you use too much weight you'll just be training bad form.

[empirehockey 1]

I've never tried wieghts on a stick before, I have done the weighted puck training and I used to take an old Titan into the pool and do some resistance slapshots. Really helps so I can imagine something like this being very beneficial.

[Theo 1]

Agreed....I appreciated his strength when I bolted the 20 pounds on first. AMAZING, but maybe in a yr or two for me. Switching to 10 pounds made a huge difference.

Geat vids...Good to know some drills now. Wish I had plates like that ...I had to bolt them onto the stick, but same purpose.

Ktang- I put my above the kickpoint, but fairly low. Pretty much where the video guy had them

[xrickyb86x 1]

20 pounds... holy crap.

I used to tape two pucks above my blade and stick handle with a weighted ball and that would kill after about 45 seconds.

[BoDangles 0]

Wow, that is a crap load of weight. Had a stick in high school that was 5lbs and after just a few weeks I could notice a major difference in my wrist and forearms.

[forbs02 20]

I had a couple of players a few years back who used these:

http://www.heavymetalhockey.com/

[HockeySavants 5]

I'm def going to try this out with a wooden stick. I can't wait to hear about someone using their high end stick while taking a slap shot and snapping it in half

[theflash0000 0]

I used to make weighted golf clubs by filling the shaft of an old club with BBs. I think I'm going to try it with an old shaft and blade and see how it goes. That's going to be a lot of BBs and will prob make it pretty heavy.

[Machinehead2k5 32]

I used to make weighted golf clubs by filling the shaft of an old club with BBs. I think I'm going to try it with an old shaft and blade and see how it goes. That's going to be a lot of BBs and will prob make it pretty heavy.

I was about to say, just fill up a stick with some pennies.

[Wildcat85 0]

I've been stickhandling with a 4 lb stick. After using that for a while switch back to a regular stick without weights and our stickhandling is so much faster.

[HockeySavants 5]

I have some ankle weights and did this with a wooden stick. Now my wrists are sore, I'm liking this work out

[Theo 1]

I tired today w/ 10 pounds and it was absurd. What makes it hard is that the weight was concentrated at one spot. If it was spread throughout the stick, it would be a lot more helpful. I actually like the penny idea, even though the rattles would drive me crazy.

Aside from that, yeah, when I switched to a regular stick, it felt like a feather. It concerned me though that I was almost moving my hands too quickly after the transition and did not have the handling that I had before. So I don't know if it would be overtraining or just getting used to the whole thing and feel.

[Lee-Bro 1]

We do a similar training exercise for drumming. The concept is to build up wrist and forearm strength and endurance. There are drumsticks which can be purchased for this along w/ the wearing of wrist weights. And yes, it burns the first several times.

[steve66 45]

if you want the weight to be better distributed try making the whole stick heavier. Find an old ops or shaft, will it with sand or perhaps water, glue a butt end on and away you go..

[Jarick 5]

I like that ankle weight idea. A coach for a clinic I did had a huge 5 pound puck that was just crazy to work with.

[HockeySavants 5]

I like that ankle weight idea. A coach for a clinic I did had a huge 5 pound puck that was just crazy to work with.

has been working great so far, here's what it looks like

I'm already seeing great results on snap shots

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[farhanshak 1]

would you guys recommend taping the pucks to the blade or on the actual shaft...

i have a stick that i have taped 4 pucks to, but its on the blade.

any feedback would be awesome.

[steelnation248 102]

would you guys recommend taping the pucks to the blade or on the actual shaft...

i have a stick that i have taped 4 pucks to, but its on the blade.

any feedback would be awesome.

I think taping it to the shaft would be better for stick handling with a weighted stick. It seems like it'd be easier with the blade clear of obstruction. There's a video on youtube where Brooks Laich has 4 pucks taped to the blade. I'm not sure if he shoots/stick handles with it though. He mentions using it in warm up.

Edit: Here's the video. It's at about 5:40 in.

[Chadd 916]

I used to have one with pucks taped up at the hosel so I could still handle a puck. More than anything you're using it for weight training your wrists and forearms

[farhanshak 1]

makes sense. I think i am going to do an old switcheroo and tape them to the hosel instead. I tried stick handling a golf ball in the garage with pucks taped to the blades (yep, its as stupid as it sounds)...shaft is definitely a much better idea for strength and still allows for control. thanks Chadd and Steelnation248 for your input.

[Theo 1]

After doing this for a few weeks, I decided to change the goals of my workout.

I think using the weight on your stick can be a great workout, but I have to admit that I like to work on quick stickhandling off ice and I guess working fast-twitch muscles, if that relates. I did not find using the weight to be as productive as I thought it would be. When I took the weight off, my hand timing was off and it would take a while to transition smoothly. I think the activity definitely builds strength in your wirsts, hands, lower arms, but I don't think it's as beneficial unless you're truly in top shape and stickhandling speed is not that compromised.

I adopted the weight vest routine instead, which I think is just more positive. It enables your hands to stay at the same rate of speed, and I think the weight vest just works more important leg and core muscles and improves on endurance.