krisdrum 233 Report post Posted July 11, 2022 On 7/11/2022 at 6:52 PM, Hills said: Unfortunately not going to happen unless True or someone sent them to me. I don't have the connection to get what I used to anymore 😞 Read more Boo. Bummer. Hey @True hockey - hook him up!!!! 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beedee 227 Report post Posted July 11, 2022 Hills is the GOAT with the True Hockey Skate line reviews! 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hills 717 Report post Posted July 12, 2022 On 7/11/2022 at 8:41 PM, beedee said: Hills is the GOAT with the True Hockey Skate line reviews! Read more ❤️ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krisdrum 233 Report post Posted July 12, 2022 On 7/11/2022 at 7:01 PM, krisdrum said: Boo. Bummer. Hey @True hockey - hook him up!!!! Read more Sorry to quote myself, but... I just dropped a message to True's Instagram account making the case for them to provide Matt with a demo pair of Catalysts to review. I suggest others here write a similar note. I'm happy to reach out to them by other channels if anyone has good contact info for them. I'm sure my Insta message will go into a black hole, but it was the only direct access point I could think of. Open to other suggestions. If we can get enough people to make the suggestion... maybe they'll see the value and do the right thing. I know for me the TF line review Matt did was HUGE to making my purchases. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VegasHockey 1284 Report post Posted July 13, 2022 Here is info on the 2022 lineup. I have used all of them, excluding the new SVH model. https://acrobat.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn:aaid:scds:US:85882b7e-1b8b-3288-a9dd-53243a6c6bf2 TRUE rarely gives out demos or prototype units nowadays unless you are a really large dealer or a significant influencer for their brand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krisdrum 233 Report post Posted July 13, 2022 On 7/13/2022 at 4:24 PM, PBH said: Here is info on the 2022 lineup. I have used all of them, excluding the new SVH model. https://acrobat.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn:aaid:scds:US:85882b7e-1b8b-3288-a9dd-53243a6c6bf2 TRUE rarely gives out demos or prototype units nowadays unless you are a really large dealer or a significant influencer for their brand. Read more Thanks. I know you've posted that before, but could never see it on my work computer. Just opened it on my personal... So the Cat series is replacing the TF series based on this. Interesting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sturdy22 29 Report post Posted July 13, 2022 Coming from makos I am interested in the flex tendon guard. there is next to no flex in the TF9/7 that I have. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VegasHockey 1284 Report post Posted July 14, 2022 PSA about the new Catalyst skates for those that will be ordering online without trying them on in-store. We have noticed they fit roughly 0.5 SMALLER than other brands. This is the opposite of the previous generation of TRUE TF series skates which fit 0.5 sizes LARGER than other brands. For example, in the TF9 I wear a size 7, in the Catalyst 9X I wear a size 8, in Bauer/CCM I typically wear a 7.5 (excluding the new Bauer Mach and CCM ASV-Pro skates, which I wear a size 7.0) My suggestion is to try them in-store and not order online if possible. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VegasHockey 1284 Report post Posted July 14, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 3:51 PM, pgeorgan said: Don't they have a 30-day trial period already? Read more Yes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marka 526 Report post Posted July 14, 2022 Howdy, On 7/14/2022 at 3:16 PM, PBH said: PSA about the new Catalyst skates for those that will be ordering online without trying them on in-store. We have noticed they fit roughly 0.5 SMALLER than other brands. This is the opposite of the previous generation of TRUE TF series skates which fit 0.5 sizes LARGER than other brands. For example, in the TF9 I wear a size 7, in the Catalyst 9X I wear a size 8, in Bauer/CCM I typically wear a 7.5 (excluding the new Bauer Mach and CCM ASV-Pro skates, which I wear a size 7.0) My suggestion is to try them in-store and not order online if possible. Read more How's the width/depth? I'd have said that the TF7/TF9 were both wider and deeper than 'traditional D width skates'. Same hold true with the Catalyst? Also True, this is where you sending a pair to @Hills for review might save you money on that 30 day fit guarantee... Mark 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krisdrum 233 Report post Posted July 14, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 3:51 PM, pgeorgan said: Don't they have a 30-day trial period already? Read more Seems like an expensive endeavor for them. Instead of sending demo pairs to some high quality reviewers who can help steer folks in the right direction. I personally don't think I would drop the money to try them, even with the 30 day trial, without more information from folks that I trust. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krisdrum 233 Report post Posted July 14, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 5:42 PM, pgeorgan said: I wouldn't personally put a lot of stock in any one single reviewer. Read more I wouldn't either, but I think guys like Matt have proven themselves to be thorough and fair in their review of gear. It sure beats relying on what the marketing department comes up with to try to move some product. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VegasHockey 1284 Report post Posted July 14, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 4:47 PM, marka said: Howdy, How's the width/depth? I'd have said that the TF7/TF9 were both wider and deeper than 'traditional D width skates'. Same hold true with the Catalyst? Read more They seem about the same width and depth as the TF series. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krisdrum 233 Report post Posted July 14, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 5:46 PM, pgeorgan said: Sure, but at the end of the day I mean you need to try the product out to really know. Read more That sounds like pure trial and error to me. I prefer to make more informed decisions, if I can. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VegasHockey 1284 Report post Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) On 7/14/2022 at 4:47 PM, marka said: Howdy, How's the width/depth? I'd have said that the TF7/TF9 were both wider and deeper than 'traditional D width skates'. Same hold true with the Catalyst? Read more They seem about the same width and depth as the TF series. On 7/14/2022 at 4:50 PM, pgeorgan said: Out of curiosity, in the last 3 years, which Bauer's and which Fit have you worn and what size? I found the sizing of the Machs to be spot on. When I do wear Bauer, its been the same skate size for the last several years, no matter the model I try. Read more I have tried everything. The benefit of owning a store. Sizing for Bauer specifically on retail models: Mach: 7.0 Fit2 Ultrasonic: 7.5 Fit3 Hyperlite: 7.0 Fit2 Vapor 2X Pro: 7.5 Fit2 Supreme 2S Pro: 7.5 Fit2 Vapor 1X 2.0 : 7.5EE Edited July 14, 2022 by PBH Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asian Tomatoe 30 Report post Posted July 14, 2022 I found the Catalyst skates to be the same sizing as the TF series except that there is a thicker foam piece in the front of the toe. I was lucky able to bake both a size 6.5 and a size 6 and, as stated by everyone else, baking really changed how the skate felt from pre-bake. Pre-bake, the size 6 felt way too short and and the 6.5 was the right size but post bake, my feet settle in towards back more and it was too large and wide. The skates, open up a lot when baked but i did notice that there is a large front pad that affects the perception of sizing. For reference, I'm a size 6 fit 2 in the Hyperlites and a size 6.5 fit 2 in Ultrasonics. Mach skates I only got to try on a size 6.5 fit 2 and those seemed to be perfect with a wider toe cap than the Ultrasonics. Didn't get to try on a size 6 to see if the wider toe cap allowed me to fit smaller but the 6.5 had my toes barely brushing the toe cap pre-bake. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krisdrum 233 Report post Posted July 14, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 5:51 PM, pgeorgan said: Lol ya I think that's the point of why they offer it. Who am I to question them! 😀 Read more I guess we see it differently. I'm reading your suggestion as go into the store and try everything on. Which I guess there could be some merit in. I tend to like to narrow my choices down a bit to what I think will work, and then consider other options if I am proven wrong, especially when it comes to decent sized financial outlays. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miller55 335 Report post Posted July 16, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 3:16 PM, PBH said: PSA about the new Catalyst skates for those that will be ordering online without trying them on in-store. We have noticed they fit roughly 0.5 SMALLER than other brands. This is the opposite of the previous generation of TRUE TF series skates which fit 0.5 sizes LARGER than other brands. For example, in the TF9 I wear a size 7, in the Catalyst 9X I wear a size 8, in Bauer/CCM I typically wear a 7.5 (excluding the new Bauer Mach and CCM ASV-Pro skates, which I wear a size 7.0) My suggestion is to try them in-store and not order online if possible. Read more On 7/14/2022 at 6:21 PM, Asian Tomatoe said: I found the Catalyst skates to be the same sizing as the TF series except that there is a thicker foam piece in the front of the toe. I was lucky able to bake both a size 6.5 and a size 6 and, as stated by everyone else, baking really changed how the skate felt from pre-bake. Pre-bake, the size 6 felt way too short and and the 6.5 was the right size but post bake, my feet settle in towards back more and it was too large and wide. The skates, open up a lot when baked but i did notice that there is a large front pad that affects the perception of sizing. For reference, I'm a size 6 fit 2 in the Hyperlites and a size 6.5 fit 2 in Ultrasonics. Mach skates I only got to try on a size 6.5 fit 2 and those seemed to be perfect with a wider toe cap than the Ultrasonics. Didn't get to try on a size 6 to see if the wider toe cap allowed me to fit smaller but the 6.5 had my toes barely brushing the toe cap pre-bake. Read more Well, this just got interesting. Question for Thursday who have tried them- is the boot lower cut than TF? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flip12 722 Report post Posted July 16, 2022 On 7/16/2022 at 12:40 AM, Miller55 said: Well, this just got interesting. Question for Thursday who have tried them- is the boot lower cut than TF? Read more Isn't TF already as low cut as any boot out there? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miller55 335 Report post Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/16/2022 at 7:57 AM, flip12 said: Isn't TF already as low cut as any boot out there? Read more Not sure, they don't seem much lower than my 2S pros though, maybe a drop Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G14 7 Report post Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 3:16 PM, PBH said: PSA about the new Catalyst skates for those that will be ordering online without trying them on in-store. We have noticed they fit roughly 0.5 SMALLER than other brands. This is the opposite of the previous generation of TRUE TF series skates which fit 0.5 sizes LARGER than other brands. For example, in the TF9 I wear a size 7, in the Catalyst 9X I wear a size 8, in Bauer/CCM I typically wear a 7.5 (excluding the new Bauer Mach and CCM ASV-Pro skates, which I wear a size 7.0) My suggestion is to try them in-store and not order online if possible. Read more How does the Catalyst 5, 7, and 9 boot stiffness compare to the TF7 and TF9? Thank you!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Westside 250 Report post Posted July 21, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 3:16 PM, PBH said: PSA about the new Catalyst skates for those that will be ordering online without trying them on in-store. We have noticed they fit roughly 0.5 SMALLER than other brands. This is the opposite of the previous generation of TRUE TF series skates which fit 0.5 sizes LARGER than other brands. For example, in the TF9 I wear a size 7, in the Catalyst 9X I wear a size 8, in Bauer/CCM I typically wear a 7.5 (excluding the new Bauer Mach and CCM ASV-Pro skates, which I wear a size 7.0) My suggestion is to try them in-store and not order online if possible. Read more Went to my local Hockey Monkey to try on the Cat9 skates. Since I wasn’t planning on buying them I didn’t have them baked, but tried on a size 8R (same size as my TF9) and they fit the same. Toes pressed pretty hard against the toe cap which would fit perfect after a bake. An 8.5 was a closer fit, but after baking they’d open up way too much. Prior to making the switch to True last year I wore multiple Bauer skates over the last decade, all in size 8.5D. So I’d say the Catalyst line fit the same as the TF line, which would be 1/2 size DOWN from Bauer/CCM sizing 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jbear 113 Report post Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) Are the Catalyst Pro skates available to us? I'm also curious about flex profiles among these Trues. Edited July 23, 2022 by Jbear Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VegasHockey 1284 Report post Posted July 23, 2022 On 7/23/2022 at 4:57 PM, Jbear said: Are the Catalyst Pro skates available to us? I'm also curious about flex profiles among these Trues. Read more Cat Pro is a softer boot with more flex in the facing, it also doesn't wrap the foot the same way the SVH custom and TF do. https://www.instagram.com/p/CgTGcfxosxD/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VegasHockey 1284 Report post Posted July 23, 2022 On 7/21/2022 at 9:26 PM, Westside said: Went to my local Hockey Monkey to try on the Cat9 skates. Since I wasn’t planning on buying them I didn’t have them baked, but tried on a size 8R (same size as my TF9) and they fit the same. Toes pressed pretty hard against the toe cap which would fit perfect after a bake. An 8.5 was a closer fit, but after baking they’d open up way too much. Prior to making the switch to True last year I wore multiple Bauer skates over the last decade, all in size 8.5D. So I’d say the Catalyst line fit the same as the TF line, which would be 1/2 size DOWN from Bauer/CCM sizing Read more That might be your specific experience, but every single pair we have sold the customer has gone up in size vs the TF skates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
