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  1. 15 hours ago, mojo122 said:

    Skater preference.  You can get that at retail if you go custom.

    That’s precisely the point I was making. In order to opt for less of something (stiffness in this case), it has to be an actual option.

    I still strongly disagree with the oft expressed notion that a stiffer skate entails a stronger skater. There are plenty of counter examples, but the general rule would have to account for context, and in the current hockey skate market an argument can be made for skates being too stiff for the good even of the strongest skaters in the world. That’s what I was trying to get across.

    I absolutely agree it comes down to personal preference.

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  2. 3 hours ago, mojo122 said:

    I find the 2S Pro tongue flexes just fine.  From a performance standpoint it offers more performance than the 1S did.  My only complaint is that the felt is too thick where it comes off the toecap.  It does compress rather nicely or at least mine has after 9 months of skating 4 times/week.

    If someone isn't getting proper forward flex in the 2S Pro or 2X Pro it could be, that being a pro level skate it's too much skate for their skating ability.

    Some skaters with great skating ability opt for a flexier tongue to suit their taste. Skate stiffness and skating ability don’t correlate directly, just as shaft stiffness and stick skills don’t.

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  3. 9 hours ago, smcgreg said:

    **I know this rant seems off topic, but Bunnyman alluded to the approaches used in cycling and I thought it would be good to point out some of the misconceptions regarding these approaches and how it could inform this topic. 

    I though it was rather interesting, and not really off topic. Maybe a bit tangential, but a worthwhile perspective on an analogous system. It’s always interesting to see how these things have played out in other arenas if something new but familiar comes along.

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  4. It could be easier if you take out the insole and measure its length. Graf has a chart on their homepage that shows their sizing in UK, European, and cm. Also, if it’s a Graf insole, it could potentially have a size stamped on the bottom of the insole, as they often mark that. Another place to look is on the outsole.


  5. 3 minutes ago, smcgreg said:

    Yes, but I can't copy and paste myself in a publication... that's plagiarism.  Just saying.

    Seriously though, yes, I know and I was kind of thinking the same thing, but at the end of the day Mako and True (VH) are two different skate lines, so, one would be imitating the other if the scenario played out.  heck it would be very nice if somebody would simply imitate makos for real so I don't need to keep scouring the web for 5 yr old "new" skates for my kids.  Oh well...

    Zizek can and does. It really depends on what kind of publication.

    Skates from different manufacturers actually do imitate each other quite a bit, so this wouldn’t be that far out of the ordinary.


  6. 2 hours ago, stick9 said:

    Man, glad you guys don't offer restaurant recommendations.

    The OP is obviously frustrated with True. He was promised and paid for a product and service he did not receive. When he pointed it out, their response was in his opinion unsatisfactory. So why the hell would he continue to do business with them.... I wouldn't.

    Obviously everyone here sees that and is trying to help. A straight answer to the question, “Is there an alternative to True?” was given. True may be a little annoying at the moment, but they still have a lot to offer, especially for one who likes the recent speed skate influenced hockey skates, and that upside could be worth fighting for.

    There are only so few manufacturers to chose from these days, so it’s a rather different situation than recommending a restaurant. It’s more like trying to intermediate in a situation where a loyal customer of a chef isn’t happy with his or her current experience and is further disappointed with the protocol for handling that situation at the chef’s newest restaurant which is going through the usual positive and negative effects associated with rapid growth.


  7. My guess is you could be dealing with formality in True saying “try to add the red insole.” That’s probably step one. If after trying the red insole they still don’t fit, then maybe they consider a remake. It’s not uncommon to trouble shoot by little increments rather than starting from scratch. It’s a natural search problem. 

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  8. 2 hours ago, Sniper9 said:

    That seems runs from the heel all the way to the bottom of the skate... There are no videos showing their process because I'm pretty sure they are keeping it hush hush. I could be wrong but the processes are very different. 

    The seam running along the highest point of the part from top to bottom made me think it was a mold seam artifact. I pictured that piece being made in a mold like this one: 

     

    Notice the similarity in the extremely straight line running along the part where the two parts of the mold meet. The cf is laid up across that seam, but there's a telltale artifact in the resin flow. I don't look at the CCM OPBs and picture two thin carbon fiber parts being fused together along the length of their innermost edges.

    The AS1 product pictures on IW exhibit the similarity well:

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    What about our resident composites expert, @bunnyman666? Can you shed some light on what might be going on with CCM's OPB construction?


  9. 11 hours ago, Sniper9 said:

    True skates are built from the last inside out, starting with the liners placed on the last itself and then built all the way out to the trim. 

     From the videos Ive seen for CCM, Even for total custom CCM skates, they use high pressure moulding of a pre made quarter package onto the individual's last, which imo, is just like heat moulding but on steroids. 

    Also, CCM saying their boots are "one piece" is kind of false advertising imo, as you can clearly see the crease/ line on the heel area, similar to the joint on the old "one piece" fused sticks. 

    Can you link to the CCM videos showing the shell with the other parts being added?

    I thought the crease on the heel of CCM skates was residual resin that shows the seam of the mold rather than a seam in the underlying textile that forms the shell. I pictured them doing a layup of carbon fiber pieces going across the heel, but I've never seen anything revealing the process for making that part.


  10. On 6/13/2019 at 8:56 PM, Nicholas G said:

    Honestly, I am still a little skeptical of a one-piece boot being the "end game" for skate technology. Plenty of players use two-piece skates, including the best around; McDavid, Crosby, McKinnon, Kucherov, Hall, and many more. Do I think the technology is superior to a one-piece skate, yes. But there are also limitations when developing a one-piece skate which is why TRUE and CCM fit very differently. In the future, I imagine companies making a two-piece skate fused in the ankle section to allow for more mobility. This would allow them to dial in different stiffness specifications. The MAKO (RIP) and TRUE skate are the only ones I have seen so far moving in this direction

    Does it really matter? It's not like 95% of players are going to really notice the difference. 

    Can you elaborate more on that?


  11. 22 minutes ago, Sniper9 said:

    If it's the height then use powerfoot inserts. Or move the tongue lower... 

    I have Powerfoot inserts. I just forget where.

    I can't move the tongue lower so easily: I'm still in MLX which has a tab stitched into the tongue that screws into the toe cap. If I were to try that approach, I don't think it would help. It's not the area in the actual toe cap that's too tall, it's the facing and laces not snugging the tongue down enough for my liking from the first to the third eyelet near the toe cap. Moving the tongue further into the toe cap wouldn't address that issue. I think it has to do with how snugly they can be laced when they're baked.


  12. How thermoformable is the toe cap area? Is a little too much room fixable by applying the shrink wrap fitting method to the forefoot? I my multiple bakings of MLX skates, I find the first three eyelets end up feeling too roomy after the skates have cooled.

    I'm keen to try the new fitting method but won't get the chance to get back on the ice in the next few months, so I can't provide any feedback until then.


  13. On 6/13/2019 at 9:31 PM, chippa13 said:

    I've never seen a player fan on more one-timers than Pastrnak did throughout the playoffs. I speculated early on that perhaps his earlier hand injury had something to do with it but who knows. Between Pastrnak's whiffs and the poor decision making by him and Marchand, it seems to be somewhat of a miracle the Bruins did as well as they did.

    That makes more sense regarding Pastrnak. I didn’t watch much of the Bruins until the Finals.

    On 6/14/2019 at 1:15 AM, stick9 said:

    @flip12man give it a rest. It wasn't a dive. The entire hockey world calls it a trip and say it was a call that the refs missed.

    That’s not true.


  14. 14 minutes ago, Nicholas G said:

    More ergonomic and not as wide as it makes the skates look bulky and not streamlined. Ideally, I wish they would go back to have a composite toe cap as I really liked that look, though I know its not nearly as durably as the current materials being used. 

    More ergonomic but skinnier? By 'more ergonomic' I'm picturing a Birkenstock forefoot shape. Did you mean something like that? However, by making the toecap narrower, wouldn't that be making the boot less ergonomic? I imagine that toecap width is something that gets determined by the foot the skates are built for. They should be the Goldilocks 'just right' width if scanning, building, and molding go as they should.

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