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2 hours ago, BenBreeg said:I just threw our some old blades, one was a Shanahan, toe with straight face and square toe. That was from ages ago...
Base has that as a stock pattern now.
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52 minutes ago, Sniper9 said:Sorry, my skates are in my storage room and I honestly don't want to go out of my way to do that.
No worries, doesn't have to be this month. Just if you remember to make a visual comparison before you offload your Trues. I'm in no rush, just curious.
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22 minutes ago, Sniper9 said:The true I lace up to the top and even tightness throughout.
The as1 I can't lace tight on the top eyelet. It has to be fairly relaxed or I have no flexion so the as1 seems to be higher for sure but I haven't measured. What seems to work is just regular tension throughout until the top where I'll bend forward to where I think my stride bend is and tie it tight on that position. This way it gives me decent flexion.
If you can measure where the first and second eyelets line up from the AS1 compared to the Trues, I'd be keenly interested.
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3 hours ago, Sniper9 said:My true vs the as1. I felt more agile in the as1. Same profile on steel and hollow and I felt like my turns were more responsive with the as1. Strides and starting off, I felt more powerful with the trues and more biomechanically sound.
Do you lace to the top in AS1’s and Trues? How high cut are they, comparatively?
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Aside from fit, how do people who've tried other top end skates feel about the performance of the Trues? If I were to get new skates now, I'd probably get Trues, simply because I like lower cut skates. I've tried MLX, and like the glide and the edge control I get in them, but I haven't tried newer top model skates from Bauer or CCM to compare.
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MSH Eagle 4-rolls would be superior in every conceivable way.
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1 hour ago, JR Boucicaut said:Lidstrom's Eastons were the same way; they were reverse-engineered Bauer 4000s. Wore those for a long time under different looks until they forced him to wear Synergy boots - I sharpened his skates before he went to training camp; Easton was on the 1500 model and his were the originals! Did that for a year then switched to Warrior (and Bauer for skates.)
Graf did not make Nike skates for Fedorov.
Thanks! I was inclined to think that rumor was false.
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In the 90’s, old Microns and Daousts were semi-dressed as Bauers; “semi” because not as completely as the ClassicOnes or Mosocas (Bourque, Konstantinov, Ysebaert, Brown).
Nike did it with their earliest skates, adding Nike branding and the overall weird extra vents and panels to what I’ve read were usually Supreme skates. I’ve also read Graf made some of Fedorov’s and Kovalev’s Nikes, but I’ve never come across visual evidence of that in either case. I’m especially skeptical when it comes to Kovalev because I’ve never come across any image or footage of him wearing Grafs.
Brian Rafalski is maybe the most interesting example of dressed skates I know of. After switching from Tacks to Mission Amp Flys, he didn’t wear another skate until Mission was bought out and he jumped into V60s. Yet, through that period from 2001 to 2009, Rafalski’s Amp Flys were dressed to match Mission’s current offering as much as possible (originals, 1st, 2nd, 3rd dressing).
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19 minutes ago, lovejotd said:sounds good... I heard the ribcor is very different in the pro stock version, like it doesn't use the rib technology and may not even be low kick point, not sure if this is completely accurate though, cause I have never gotten one.
From what I've read, there are RibCor pro stock sticks, with the various rib patterns, or at least there were in previous seasons. These weren't always dressed as RibCors, they could have been skinned as other CCM sticks. The same is true now. A RibCor dressed stick may or may not have RibCor technology in it. Like @Cavs019 said, if you know what to look for, you can take the guessing out of what you're getting.
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Was it the lie 6 P92? P28 would be between the P92 and P46 in lie, and with its main pocket more towards the toe than on the P46, while the main pocket is on the heel with the P92. It could be worth a shot though.
P46 is an awesome curve. Just enough going on to get good action on shots and passes without there being anything too crazy overall. It's just too subtle a curve to thrive in today's consolidated market where loud wins.
It's a shame you're a righty because PSH often has cheap ($100 right now!) team stock CCMs in it, but only for us lefties.
I was interested in a push for BASE to clone the P46, but it never got much interest. Now I'm focused on my S.Niedermayer pro stock, which hits more of my ideal points than even the P46 does. If it weren't for that, I'd be pushing for the P46 revival campaign.Wish there was more help to offer, but there just aren't that many curve options available today. Good luck!
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What did you use before P46? Have you tried P28?
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On 2/2/2019 at 11:53 PM, Nicholas G said:You don't really skate on your toes or heel. Also, the primary benefit of Flare is not the width as most people think, its the actual flare of the steel which allows you to get over further on your edges. The width obviously does help with stability and glide, having a more flat hollow, but that's not the main focus of the benefit of the steel.
The more I picture this the more it makes sense. If it's the angle of the skate's edges that matter for sharper cornering and smoother glide, then it follows that it should work both ways: the angle digs in more when the blade angle is rotated into alignment with it when pushing and turning, and digs in less when the blade angle is closest to perpendicular to it, the bite of the blade contributing less drag to glide resistance compared to a normal rectangular blade.
I really want to try these with the ZChannel. I just doubt I'll have any skates with compatible holders in my rotation anytime soon. -
2 minutes ago, CigarScott said:I agree, you can only improve some things so much. I'm rocking Tackla Air 9000 pants which look like at 20-30 year old design I can't see myself using anything else.
Tackla pants also stack up competitively weight wise, from a pretty lengthy comparison I saw on a pro stock focused forum. I love their fit. I can't see myself wearing anything but Tackla cut pants, whether they're actually tacklas or Reebok 7000's or CCM 70's.
Jofa also nailed it on the head with their shins and elbows from almost 30 years ago. Early 90's shin pads are still the go to for pro stock today, the main question being, "the style with or without hyper-X plastic below the knee cap?" -
1 hour ago, stick9 said:Funny thing is. I am a big advocate for unwaxed laces because they have a bit of give to them. I don't need waxed laces in the traditional sense. The 1X injected lacing has a locking feature and I am only pulling them tight at the top. Appreantly that little bit of give was enough for my foot to move forward a little.
I've never liked the gooey waxed laces. Graf's waxed laces are completely different. Just enough wax to hold, but with enough elasticity to avoid that cement suction cup feeling. I like those on my MLX just because I like the skate feeling snug but still with flex when I contract the tendons in my foot. That feel is really nice and hard to get in cloth laces.
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It’s not necessarily accurate that the most frequent flex profile type seen on pro stock sticks for sale represents the most popular flex profile to use in NHL play. There’s no way for us to know why all of those sticks are available for purchase: the likelihood that some of them are for resale because they were samples that the player ended up not liking makes it impossible to simply tally based on what you see on PSH, SLS, eBay, etc., and say flex profile X is the most popular because it’s the one you saw the most.
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4 hours ago, stick9 said:Following this thread got me started looking at some the sticks mentioned. I was surprised to learn the Pro3 is a true one piece (so is the Tacks 9080).
I like to stay around that $150 price point so I've been surviving off closeouts and pro-stocks. Would be nice to find something off the rack I liked.
If only there were more choices for patterns on the rack.
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3 hours ago, IPv6Freely said:Many other products have their own thread. That’s kind of the point. The last thing you want is for every question about the same product to be in a new thread.
I think a lot of subtopics that end up in these mega topics could be best served with their own smaller topics. Maybe mega threads or mega topics like this one could be their own forum or forum category, and the related subtopics could be individually threaded below. Stack Overflow has a good approach for achieving that level of granularity.
2 hours ago, stick9 said:2. The thread is so massive you can't possibly read through it to find an answer or the info you seek.
This is huge. For people interested in the bigger topics like this or the Mako topic, it's frustrating to be stuck reading Q/A along the lines of "this thread is too long, so I'm just going to ask without having checked if my question has already been answered." Breaking up the mega threads could be a powerful boost in information density.
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P14 is a clone of the Easton Shanahan from 90's and 00's retail sticks. If I'm not mistaken, the idea is that this is the Ur Kane blade that he's then modified dozens of times since gaining access to custom sticks. To say it's the Kane Pro isn't accurate in that it's what Kane's using RIGHT NOW! because that has changed so much and continues to change. It helps to drive sales though. If you want an exact Kane curve variant, you've got to hunt it down. And love stiffer sticks.
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8 hours ago, IPv6Freely said:I don’t get the point. Just buy a plug and cut it the length you want it. That way you don’t have a bunch of spare parts kicking around.
The point is being able to quickly adjust stick height on the fly. I've seen lots of kids using stick lengths that don't seem to work because they simply whiff the puck even without anyone pressuring them. They don't get the point of making your stick longer or shorter to suit your build-posture combo. This would make it so you can make the point without having to get as drastic as chopping the stick way down and then swapping end plugs of different lengths in and out.
It doesn't necessarily solve the balance issue--sometimes it helps with feel immensely to cut the stick down to allow room for an end plug, but if you know a better length from using this tool it'll give your a better starting point for perfecting stick balance.
I wouldn't imagine a lot of people would work it into their final stick adjustment post tailoring, but it's an excellent idea for aiding the stick tailoring process. If you know exactly how long your stick should be, then this isn't for you, but there are a lot of players that don't know how big of an effect it can have on their puck handling.
Edit: from seeing their page, another major motivator is allowing sticks to grow with kids. I'm not familiar with how long youth players' sticks last, so that angle hadn't occurred to me.
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Not just good workmanship, I like the look of the gold with the JetSpeed theme. They should do that standard. Also for durability's sake, but the look is very nice.
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9 hours ago, Sk8Stk said:The scanner calibration app allows you to move the box being scanned relative to the actual subject. It takes some time, but ensures maximum precision of the object being scanned. This alongside communication with True in uploading of Test scans makes for a very thorough process, as long as you take the time to do so. This is more intricate than any motion capture protocol you might come up with since more human error is reduced.
It sounds like there’s room for operator error here if the calibration isn’t done properly. Is that accurate?
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On 12/18/2018 at 3:16 AM, bthompson1286 said:What is the custom graf process? @JR Boucicaut Do you have experience with graf? Now that vaughn owns th graf nameit seems to be better. The skates look beautiful. My graf bit the dust but want to go with them again but this time custom.
I think @Sk8Stk has experience with Graf customs.
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Is it complicated to set up a fitting/scanning station, oth in terms of physical space and app-device calibration?
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Also, what’s what on there? It looks like plastic where the composite usually is, the tendon guard is cool, different than the standard Mako tendon guard. Are they same size as your other makos? How much do they weigh? Any chance you could do a full write up or video on them? Whether they’re just midrange or whatever, they’re awesomely rare!
Looking for P28 type curve that's a bit more closed
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And the lie. W71’s one of the highest patterns in recent retail production.