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11 hours ago, Vet88 said:Didn't Graf do this with their latest line, eg 9035, and the flex zone which you could get in different flexes?
All the Graf’s I’ve tried (701, 703, 705, G35 tech-mesh) were clearly built to allow ample flex in the ankle. Haven’t tried 9035.
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6 hours ago, SirJW said:Pretty sure those creases are from the skate breaking down from use not intentionally.
Kovalchuk’s?
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37 minutes ago, stick9 said:Think Easton did it too. That reflex coil tech on the Stealth was essentially that.
Good point. I think I overlooked that one because it was the shell under the surface that had the notches. It was still that idea though.
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1 hour ago, stick9 said:Didn't that Rover skate concept have cuts in the boot in that area?
Yeah. It was also tried in the 80's and 90's by CCM, Graf, and Micron...Mission and later Alkali featured it as well. That seemed to be what he wanted: 80's pattern cuts with 00's and 10's materials.
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4 hours ago, shoot_the_goalie said:Gosh. I used to have these in high school and thought these were the greatest gloves ever made. But compared to today's gloves, these things are like wearing bricks on your hands.
Good for scrummin’ 😁
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I've been wondering for a while now if anyone has tried to get their new skates to crease when baking them or breaking them in from new.
The reason I ask is I've always preferred a boot that has that give in the ankle, and I've noticed some pros who've continued to use skates with such extreme creasing that it seems as if it was an intentionally formed feature of their boots. Kovalchuk's the best current example (see below), but I've also noticed it on Grabovsky's, P. Bure's, Kucherov's, and Cogliano's skates.
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Or maybe a chunky two-tone glove like the old Flaks.
Or shiny silver gloves. The aftermarket demand for those would be insane. So would the durability, I’m guessing.
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8 minutes ago, strosedefence34 said:Looking less like Kings and more like Harlequins.
Not that it's a terrible look. I like it better than these for instance:
I kinda wish they'd just bring back the Burger Kings...
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It’s strange to see a hole there just as max height blades are catching on. It could lead to some strange bounces and maybe even trick shots. I’m surprised that form is legal for a blade.
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I’ve only ever tried 9’, 10’, and 11’. My favorite by far is the 11’. It still feels nice and rounded, but meshes much more naturally with my skating mechanics. I’ve learned to overcome that tipping over feeling on 9’, but on both that and 10’, I feel like I’m skating with a parachute on, always slowing down. With the 11’ I feel like I can isolate enough blade to make confident turns whether they’re tight or with speed. Crucially, I feel much more fluid from stride to stride, within that dragging, braking feeling always nagging me.
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@Phil8, how has the transition been going from inline to ice? Did you get your blades profiled? I wish I had known about profiling when I switched from inline to ice when I was 13. A lot of my initial struggles were due to trying to adapt to a setup that was very different from what I had been skating on for years. Looking back, buying a boot with a very different skating philosophy and not flattening the 9' profile to something longer kept me in the fish-out-of-water phase for a long time.
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3 hours ago, Sniper9 said:Don't think they will since the easy option is just not to lace the top eyelet. It will be too much of a hassle to redesign the skate to appease another category of players when the solution is already there (skip the top eyelet). From just looking at pictures, even though the trend right now seems to be players starting to skip the top eyelet, the majority still tie their skates all the way up.
Also, Marner doesn’t skip the top eyelet, so the inductive argument has no legs in this case.
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2 hours ago, SkateWorksPNW said:Found a good pic showing how Marner doesn't lace the top eyelet. Makes me wonder if the next trend is to start making skates with a much lower cut front fascia to aid in forward flexion while still keeping the sides tall to provide stability.
He laces to the top in games though.
I’ve seen a lot of pros skip their full skate setup in practices, or promotional/charitable on ice events, whether it’s skipping an eyelet they’d lace for games (Brett Hull as well as Marner) or not taping their tendon guards (P. Bure, Kovalev, Perron, Bondra, Gretzky).
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6 minutes ago, 218hockey said:For some people. Especially NHL guys.
Not for a junior player who's on the ice 5 times a week with the same $200 stick his parents bought. I don't want it to get all chipped up. We tape often.
I think I’m just looking a few generations of sticks ahead. It would probably be a thing in the pros first, but eventually trickle down. I see the texture application as a protective as well as a performance layer, which could be touched up as needed.
I’m thinking about 10-15 years from now, not this year or the next.
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7 hours ago, ParabolicActivity said:I don't understand using anything thicker than tape. I would never know where the puck is on my stick. I use one layer of tape with as little overlap as possible.
I used to feel the same way. I realized though that what I was really tuning was the stick balance. If the stick isn’t at risk of becoming top heavy, a thick grip can feel quite nice. The sticks I’ve acquired over the years tend to be blade heavy for my taste. A 40g Big Butt Tacki Mac can totally fix a stick that’s unbalanced for me.
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2 hours ago, BenBreeg said:I have large hands, I at least need a little build up at the end or else I would probably lose my stick occasionally.
An expensive but consistent solution would be composite plugs molded to the desired shape, similar to the end plugs Ryan Smyth had made. Snap a stick and you could extract the plug and just transfer it to your new one.
This would work for additive or subtractive shapes, like Petr Sykora’s grip. The finish of the part could achieve the desired tack and texture, given the right mix.
These are uneducated guesses. There are people on this board with composite manufacturing knowledge that could shed more light on this perspective...maybe it’s cost prohibitive? It’s easily a huge space given the permutations of form and finish.
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I see more and more players just taping a knob at the tip without any wrap traveling down the shaft towards the blade. People seem to be catching on to the effectiveness of the grip coating already on the shaft.
I think it’s a matter of time until blade tape becomes obsolete as well. Pastrnak has already said he tapes his stick more out of habit than need, or something like that.
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14 minutes ago, smcgreg said:Haven't used it. Looking at it, does look a bit like a tweener, but more of a toe curve right? Not sure that's ideal for defenseman.
It depends on the person. Some of the best puck moving D in the NHL use it: Karlsson, Doughty, Ekman-Larsson, Letang. It’s an evolution of the Drury, with a functional remnant of its heel wedge intact. The added pocket at the toe is a little deeper, though, which steals the attention.
I’ve never played a P88, so I could be mistaken, but my impression is its pocket is focused closer to the toe, which is why I could see the P28 working for someone coming from P88.
My recollection has the Warrior variant in the tamer camp, where Easton’s E28 was less polished version of Kamil Kreps’ pro curve. Warrior, CCM and Bauer look to have smoothed out the Easton curve’s kinks a bit when fashioning theirs for retail production. True’s is a bit more rockered from the heel to mid-section of the blade with the heel and toe curves more unified than the others’ P28s. I don’t notice a drastic shift in how it plays from the E28 to the TC4, though. Since your son enjoys Warrior though, all of the P28 nuance is less important.
As for playing the puck in closer to the body, Karlsson and Ekman-Larsson seem to use the P28 (or perhaps the Fisher Pro variant) at a considerably long length. The toe rocker might help compared to the P88 for handling the puck in tight.
I don’t know where this defense should use this kind of blade, forwards that. Brian Rafalski’s blade looked like a mirror of Valeri Kharlamovs, a PM9 with a dental hook at the toe. If it weren’t for size descrimination delaying Rafslski’s NHL debut by a few years, he’d be in the Hall of Fame.
Personally, I’ve slowly disarmed my need for a toe hook on my blade to play my best as I’ve become familiar with the other variables at play in puck handling, yet, I still prefer a toe biased pocket. It just seems to rest more naturally within my innate puck feel comfort zone.
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What about the P28?
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Base’s options allow a bit more flexibility in chosing patters. They have the Iginla in 4, 5, and 6 lies.
Maybe get him to give the loft on the W03 more time. Controlling shot height when going from a little to a considerable degree of loft can be tricky at first, but with some conscious practice, initial awkwardness can be overcome. How are his saucer passes? A little loft can go a long way to getting good saucer passes off quickly. I know you said he likes to keep the puck on the ice for passes, but it’s good to be confident to throw a saucer when the situation arises.
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3 hours ago, oldtrainerguy28 said:Going t have to disagree with you on this one. Seeing as I takes the least amount of steel off and is closest to the profile study done on most effective profile I would highly recommend the .5 ws a starter.
0 and 1 when done properly take away sooooo much steel and pitch it beyond what it should be based on another study done on blade pitch
Can you link to these studies?
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6 hours ago, Cove said:Havent seen what the retail supremes look like, but the CCMs win with that giant yellow CCM
Just wait. You’re in for a treat!
Also, how can you call a winner without letting the other diver have their turn?
7 hours ago, jared9356 said:Real question is... which is uglier? My vote is for the Supreme. Graphics inspired by a wedge of cheese.
Yeah, and not even a good cheese. A blue cheese inspired skate would be far better.
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When the clap skate finally caught on in long track speed skating, every record broke immediately except for the sprint, the 500m. My guess is it negatively impacted the start but only significantly enough to lessen its adoption / performance benefit in that event. By the next Olympics, the top three or four finalists all beat the record time.
I think True also overly restricts skating motion, which something like reducing facing and or cuff height would suggest. Graf is still the best biomechanically tuned skate I’ve ever tried. I think we’re on the cusp of a proper breakthrough in skates and everything else, but I doubt skiing is the direction forward. That’s been over-applied and we’ve seen the limits of its usefulness in hockey.
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3 hours ago, GregHenn19 said:I still have a Brand New Original Synergy Drury Curve, I took it out for a spin a couple weeks ago, Its a good stick, I would be happy if Technology stopped where it was at then. My favorite sticks are Old Easton OPS. OPS now a-days are way to light and lack the feel they use too. But this is coming from a guy who misses wood blade and Graphite shaft combos.
Have you tried everything out on the market? I find an end plug does a lot to bring the feel back in focus. True's 6.0 HT feels great to me without any balancing tricks required. That's the first stick I've tried that's been like that. I haven't tried the majority of the sticks out there though.
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I’m happy with a 500g stick, or even more, if the balance is right. I have a Kovalev used stick (not certified or anything but with a grip type he used and his tape job) that I’ll have to weigh again. I think it’s 550-570g but perfectly balanced, it’s insane. The 425g RibCor PMT2 I have feels like straw, I think because the shaft is so light the blade is incredibly inert against the puck.