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Not really, just 6'1. But low lies are tough. I don't recall him using more than a 100 flex stick but at that low of a lie, I'd need about a 62" stick, over the 57" I'm using... Trust me, I thought about it. ;)

Lie looks lower than what I remember. What's the flex?

Happy Halloween! Who picked up those Minn 5-rolls? I want to compare them to my Minn 5-rolls. Obviously, those are leather with a different cuff and cuff roll and different script. I believe mine aren't Mission-made but I want to compare anyway.

Fix it by mail.

I just got two pairs of gloves repalmed and these are tolerable, now. I sent them off about 2.5 months ago and they came back sloppy, missed stitches, put on the wrong gussets so they were incredibly shallow, left threads everywhere. I complained, no response. I threatened to file a claim through my credit card for services not rendered and got a response that afternoon. Sent them back, they requested more money for what I had already originally asked for. I got them back today(after more than a month and minimal responses from emails) and they are better but still sloppy in areas. They aren't bad when you send them an easton 4-roll but heaven forbid you send them something that takes a little work. Oh yeah, and the MSH2 they use isn't MS2. I didn't realize I was shipping gloves to Chinatown.

Expect to get a butcher job.

I kind of like that because they look a little like the Caps gloves + white binding.

I misread what he was saying(in response to the post-er above his), what I'm saying is that I doubt they're making the skate off the XXX last. Maybe its a similar toe cap but not as narrow. I seriously doubt that they would want to take a step backwards and have more people going a half or a full size up to squeeze their feet in the toe cap again. More people have a wider foot than a narrower foot, with stiffer skates, this became an issue.

I doubt that, because the newer Vapors fit a LOT more people correctly, in comparison. I can imagine them going to something that LOOKS like the old but fitting like the old last is a bad idea. *edit - Misread while skimming.

Stop trying to compare numbers.

I don't think they'd be a bust if they didn't look soo cheap.

It "Isn't recommended."

They're REALLY nice. They don't feel like typical 4-rolls, the backrolls aren't the usual HD foam. They feel kind of like an Easton/Eagle hybrid glove.

Exactly what I want, preferably in white.

He's on this board although I imagine not a lot. From what hes told me they plan on doing a custom program but right now they are busy with the pros. There will be multiple flexes available. It seems that they are trying to fix the issues that had me steer clear. So, in my opinion, at this point... you cannot call them a bust.

Oh snap, that is EDGE isn't it? Shit, I havent seen 54 in a "regular" practice jersey, let alone EDGE. haha

How the hell did you find a 54 practice jersey? I haven't seen anything under 56 in a long time.

Agreed.....I've never seen an oggie grip. In some ways, I think your impression of Oggie Grips being a bust is due to the internet. What I mean is there is a saying about "you don't know what you don't know" but it's the opposite here. I haven't spoken with Joe in a couple of months, but he said the sales of the grips have increased each year. Plus he's starting to get NHL players to use the grips, although sometimes he modifies the grips so much that it's hard to tell. In any event, let's go back 5+ years to before MSH (or the Easton board) were created. Let's say you've never heard about an Oggie Grip, but you noticed something real weird on an NHL player's stick, so you ask the guy at the shop what it is. No idea. Enough kids ask that question all year before the owner of the shop makes a connection that that was the booth he buzzed by at the trade show, then he remembers he saw an ad by them in USA Hockey, so he calls Joe to inquire about carrying the grips. That's a common chronology prior to the age of the message board. You wouldn't consider a product a bust because you'd have no idea how long it'd been on the market. In the case of Joe's product, I think it's crazy to suggest a product whose sales have increased annually is a bust, particularly when we know that NHL players using products help drive sales, and Joe didn't get NHL approval until last season (I believe). I realize the counter argument could come from a retailer like Jimmy saying they haven't sold well in his shop, which would mean Joe's happy because his sales have increased, but Jimmy's not happy because the products sat. That's a fair assessment, yet the products have always sold well during demo days, so it may just be that this product won't ever have explosive growth -- it's just going to be slow and steady over the years as more people try it. I was agreeing with "But we also must take into account that some things sell better in different parts of the country." Oggie grips arent a bust until Joe stops making progress. I have yet to try one but have kept my ear to the ground and have recently contacted Joe. Seems like I have a bit more waiting before there will be one that I feel that I could try and be satisfied with.

On that note - SmartHockey Stickhandling balls? I know every shop seems to have tons, but I don't think I've ever heard of someone actually buying or using one. we sell one or two a week. We've been selling them for 6 yrs. They sell great, not a bust for sure. I'd guess and say we sold approx 1000. Now Oggie grips.... that's a bust. But we also must take into account that some things sell better in different parts of the country. Agreed. Nearly everyone here has or has had a smarthockey ball or 5-6 of them. I've never seen an oggie grip.

Thought Vic had it first. Yeah, but but overdrive blades have been used to and they aren't legal. ;) Things have gotten tighter.

The bend at the top was so the knob didnt keep the shaft off the ice. Do they still make those "trigger finger" paddles on goalie sticks?

np. Curtis is the last name of the inventor. He licenses the design out.

It wasn't legal, he couldnt have used it... and I think they still make them.

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