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I doubt that, because the newer Vapors fit a LOT more people correctly, in comparison. I can imagine them going to something that LOOKS like the old but fitting like the old last is a bad idea. *edit - Misread while skimming.

Stop trying to compare numbers.

I don't think they'd be a bust if they didn't look soo cheap.

It "Isn't recommended."

They're REALLY nice. They don't feel like typical 4-rolls, the backrolls aren't the usual HD foam. They feel kind of like an Easton/Eagle hybrid glove.

Exactly what I want, preferably in white.

He's on this board although I imagine not a lot. From what hes told me they plan on doing a custom program but right now they are busy with the pros. There will be multiple flexes available. It seems that they are trying to fix the issues that had me steer clear. So, in my opinion, at this point... you cannot call them a bust.

Oh snap, that is EDGE isn't it? Shit, I havent seen 54 in a "regular" practice jersey, let alone EDGE. haha

How the hell did you find a 54 practice jersey? I haven't seen anything under 56 in a long time.

Agreed.....I've never seen an oggie grip. In some ways, I think your impression of Oggie Grips being a bust is due to the internet. What I mean is there is a saying about "you don't know what you don't know" but it's the opposite here. I haven't spoken with Joe in a couple of months, but he said the sales of the grips have increased each year. Plus he's starting to get NHL players to use the grips, although sometimes he modifies the grips so much that it's hard to tell. In any event, let's go back 5+ years to before MSH (or the Easton board) were created. Let's say you've never heard about an Oggie Grip, but you noticed something real weird on an NHL player's stick, so you ask the guy at the shop what it is. No idea. Enough kids ask that question all year before the owner of the shop makes a connection that that was the booth he buzzed by at the trade show, then he remembers he saw an ad by them in USA Hockey, so he calls Joe to inquire about carrying the grips. That's a common chronology prior to the age of the message board. You wouldn't consider a product a bust because you'd have no idea how long it'd been on the market. In the case of Joe's product, I think it's crazy to suggest a product whose sales have increased annually is a bust, particularly when we know that NHL players using products help drive sales, and Joe didn't get NHL approval until last season (I believe). I realize the counter argument could come from a retailer like Jimmy saying they haven't sold well in his shop, which would mean Joe's happy because his sales have increased, but Jimmy's not happy because the products sat. That's a fair assessment, yet the products have always sold well during demo days, so it may just be that this product won't ever have explosive growth -- it's just going to be slow and steady over the years as more people try it. I was agreeing with "But we also must take into account that some things sell better in different parts of the country." Oggie grips arent a bust until Joe stops making progress. I have yet to try one but have kept my ear to the ground and have recently contacted Joe. Seems like I have a bit more waiting before there will be one that I feel that I could try and be satisfied with.

On that note - SmartHockey Stickhandling balls? I know every shop seems to have tons, but I don't think I've ever heard of someone actually buying or using one. we sell one or two a week. We've been selling them for 6 yrs. They sell great, not a bust for sure. I'd guess and say we sold approx 1000. Now Oggie grips.... that's a bust. But we also must take into account that some things sell better in different parts of the country. Agreed. Nearly everyone here has or has had a smarthockey ball or 5-6 of them. I've never seen an oggie grip.

Thought Vic had it first. Yeah, but but overdrive blades have been used to and they aren't legal. ;) Things have gotten tighter.

The bend at the top was so the knob didnt keep the shaft off the ice. Do they still make those "trigger finger" paddles on goalie sticks?

np. Curtis is the last name of the inventor. He licenses the design out.

It wasn't legal, he couldnt have used it... and I think they still make them.

Nike/Bauer Easton Message Board Reebok

June, I'm thinking it's "pearl mustang" but I'm not extremely up-to-date with their palms. It looks like sheep skin.

Soft and kind of thick?

First dibs if you hate it. Looks like Drury pattern to me.

powerplay** they have another pair up right now.

Been looking for a pair since I saw the pic of pure hockey's glove walls.

Nikes are Lecavalier's pants. St Louis CCM skates and his sticks.

With pro stock helmets? Typically, VN foam. Side logos are removed.

Someone mentioned they wanted to see a pic of my new Z-airs. So here they are(from the seller): Nothing really special, had a couple mods in mind but the most aesthetically noticeable turned out to be too costly for my liking... for now.