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Need Help - Sold 15" Jofa 6070's but believe I got 16"
flip12 replied to RiseNGrind's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
Looks like this image supports your 16" theory: From this listing: https://www.ebay.com/itm/184270884716?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&campid=5338722076&toolid=10001 -
Favorite Skates of all time, top 5 (just for fun)
flip12 replied to matix218's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
Have you tried any of the more recent iterations of the Scott Van Horne boot: Mako (kind of counts), VH, or True? Curious what you might think of those compared to the Kors. -
Ellipse Profiles – The next revolution in skate profiling?
flip12 replied to VegasHockey's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
Interesting. Thanks for the detailed reply. Is there any chance of seeing this work in more detail? -
@JD17 I personally like the Graf ones, but I that's the brand I liked the best before trying Scott Van Horne's boots. The other suggestions, like Elite's insole by @Buzz_LightBeer, and SpeedPlates by @Sniper9 are good ones too. The Graf ones are a bit basic, where some of the more recent innovations in insoles are big hits with some users. Plus, @mtn noticed a downgrade in later Graf footbeds... ... so the basic foam ones you might find now might have the same problem, right off the bat. To begin with, to test if the insoles are the main culprit, bring any old insoles you might have to your next skate and swap them in and out with the stock ones you've been using. If you have something else that eliminates most of the play in your heel lock, you're good to go with a solid alternative until you find something ideal. I don't have experience with aftermarket outsoles, and just happen to have a massive stash from collecting a crazy amount of skates over the last few years. I hope this is the right direction to fix your problem. It just sounds similar to what I experienced with the MLX outsoles, and I was amazed at how much of an effect it had on my skating. The same with the stock MLX tongue. Those elements have changed iteratively over the last 10 years, but they still seem to resemble the ones I have in their basic properties and they're properties that don't align with my preferences: insoles too spongey and tongues too stiff. Luckily, they're rather easily changed and the problems solved, if one knows where to look.
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Most of the greatest skaters since the 90's have worn the "7K" style shin, and McD's one of them. It's the classic Jofa shin without the Hyper-X feature. It looks like it dates back to '81 or '82, with some tweaks coming in the following years. It's been a relatively stable piece since 1990, with minor variations. I'm not sure which version McDavid's got, but it's easy to see it's that lineage from the profile of the shin just below the knee cap. It's a little old (2018) but this picture shows that at that point he might have still been using 7Ks, but you can just see how they have that hd foam upper shin strip where the Hyper-X piece would be. CCM's been tinkering with that area the last few years, but it used to just be 7K or 8K style.
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Just a thought, but could the heel in your insole have compressed? I find with squishier insoles that I get a lot of vertical heel play in my boots, especially after some use. Now I use stock Graf insoles with a simple firm foam in my MLX because I hated the gummy insoles they came with for precisely that reason. The firmer insoles don't mess with the feel of the boot nearly as much as the softer ones did.
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It's insane that essentially the same shin pad Connor McDavid uses debuted already in the early 80's!
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Ellipse Profiles – The next revolution in skate profiling?
flip12 replied to VegasHockey's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
The anecdote about how starts are taught today is illuminating. The combination of inside edge and outside edge pushes makes for a promising start in many situations. I've noticed it's a start that's even used in short track speed skating. There has to be some tested merit to it if athletes whose sole full-time job is to skate fast are using it at the highest level. Here's the most recent example I've come across, watch Erik Gustafsson, #56 for the Flyers: He crosses over the whole way back chasing Sheary and it just doesn't look convincing this is his fastest approach back. I thought the idea with a CAG One radius was the flat middle section was for gliding and pushing, which would maximize the amount of steel on the ice. I've never tried one though, so maybe I'm missing something. -
What footbed are you using?
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He could stock up like Marleau did on his decade and a half supply of 9k's. Which teams have the fewest in Bauer? I've noticed more and more True and CCM, but it still seems like a Bauer majority from the highlights I've been watching.
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Ellipse Profiles – The next revolution in skate profiling?
flip12 replied to VegasHockey's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
Wouldn’t it be easier on a longer profile than a shorter one, relatively? You want to do it on the surplus of your glide length. A longer radius provides more of a platform for doing that at speed. Everyone has their own pref. and comfort zone, but I would select a longer profile for linear crossovers. Without sufficient glide you get caught by the backcheck. That’s how I would put it, yet I see NHLers doing sets of linear crossovers in A-to-B race situations, and it makes zero sense unless they’re that uncomfortable with their forward stride. -
Ellipse Profiles – The next revolution in skate profiling?
flip12 replied to VegasHockey's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
Warning: slight bend in the thread ahead... @pgeorgan Thanks for posting that. I was going to say, Ovechkin does have some serious linear crossover chops. He really showed them in his rookie season. Then he got a Backstrom on his summer holiday and got to take it a bit easier ever after. (Note: the next few links are all from the same video, but each instance is cued to a spot showing Ovy's linear crossovers). This one with commentary by Robbie Glantz is a little more recent, but it captures his puck carrying ability perfectly, and to make it through the neutral zone into the offensive zone without getting suffocated by defensive positioning usually requires fluid linear crossovers. Is it just me or does he also have a rather short and choppy stride, especially in comparison with McDavid and MacKinnon? The phrase "short stride" is ambiguous because it can refer to a player's normal skating stride not using much ice for the glide-and-push, or it can refer to players with longer strides that deliberately take shorter strides while utilizing a linear crossover attack because it's trickier to defend. Mogilny is the perfect example. He has the longest stride I've ever seen, but he was also a master of the linear crossover attack using abbreviated strides. I get what a linear crossover is. I'm just wondering, what is it people think they accomplish or should be used for? Because there's a lot of ambiguity in how they are discussed and some of the ideas I've come across just don't make sense. LCs are so revered they almost seem to usurp the forward stride as a necessary component in hockey ability, as though being able to skate well in a straight line isn't necessary. But I don't see how you can have good linear crossovers or execute them effectively if you don't have an above average forward stride to begin with. -
Absolutely. But it's hard to say without knowing how he thinks. Maybe it was just a bad memory he wanted to erase, i.e. weak superstition. The OG JetSpeed graphic is just better, too. The only way to improve on it is to go back to the RBZ. That skate looked really sweet.
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Ellipse Profiles – The next revolution in skate profiling?
flip12 replied to VegasHockey's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
Any particular voices you recommend? (Seen some of the PEP stuff and it seems quite fluffy; promotional propaganda.) "Not short strides...others...have much longer traditional stride(s)." I still don't quite get what you're saying. -
Ellipse Profiles – The next revolution in skate profiling?
flip12 replied to VegasHockey's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
Do McDavid and MacKinnon have short strides? What muscle groups are they activating? Are they skating differently than Niedermayer or Gartner did? Curious if there are any videos or descriptive posts you can point to for illuminating this. -
Ellipse Profiles – The next revolution in skate profiling?
flip12 replied to VegasHockey's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
Interested customers might be wary of it as well. Participation is impossible if the process is opaque. It's not a very sympathetic view of others. -
@mtn Do you still have the original footbeds from the 7700? Some pictures would be nice? How much lower cut are they than the JetSpeeds? Could you measure inside the boot to the top? Sorry for the questions, I'm just curious.
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I found this comment from Dr. Bracko in the linked video: "Hi Nathan, thanks very much for your interest in my video. I understand you to say you that you think someone who has full extension of the hip and flexion-extension of the shoulders/arms is a faster skater. If you consider that we've know since 1975 that faster skaters have wider strides (hip abduction, not hip extension), they don't fully extend their knees during full speed skating, and that they have to abduct-adduct their shoulders/arms (Newton's 2nd law of physics). . . then it's easy to understand how fast players skate. Mike Bracko" I'm new to Bracko's work. What do people here think of this?
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When I saw some P92 L5s a few years back, they were still higher than the P88. Definitely lower than the P92 L6, but not as low as I expected when considering it as a "5."
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Heel Lock issues - any way to solve, other than new skates?
flip12 replied to mtn's topic in Ice Hockey Equipment
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What’s the connection with Oates? McDavid keeps going back to his IginlaJrMod pattern, and with good reason. He looked like he was playing a league down against the Canadiens last night, weaving through them like drifting pylons.