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Update: According to icehockey360.ru, Catalyst (Pro according to the picture, Cat9 according to the caption) at size 8.0 weighs in at 833. So if that one particular skate is a fair representation of the model average once circulation comes up in the near future, it's about 20 grams lighter than Mako II and 20 grams heavier than HyperLites with CarbonLite runners. It would be interesting to see Catalyst's weight without steel. I'm surprised Alexey didn't shoot that, because I've seen him do it before. We also have to wait and see if True fixed the sizing issue with the TF which ran huge. That could be another factor.

It sounds like you pay per category per brand/logo. This specific scenario played out just after Bauer bought Easton: https://uni-watch.com/2016/11/01/corporate-theater-unfolds-on-nhl-gear/ To me it makes sense. Easton is a bundled entity that has a corporate life of its own. Even if it’s all but dead at present, it could be sold at some point. Advertising it on the biggest stage in the industry would increase its value prior to sale. The NHL doesn’t have a buy-one-get-one-free offer on the value generated by that exposure.

Sell it?

Google’s scraping Pure Hockey, who says 8.0 TF9’s weight surplus over the Mako II is closer to half that: 904g; about 5.7% heavier than 8.0 Mako II at 850g. But 8.0 TF ≠ 8.0 Mako II. The sizing is off by at least 0.5, so a better (still imperfect) comparison would be 7.5 TF, which would likely be several grams lighter (maybe below 900?)—still a bit heavier than Mako II, but not by a lot. TF’s a more robust boot, for better (protection and longevity) and worse (not as impressive at the weigh in). Catalyst differs quite a bit from TF. @psh could chime in because he’s tried everything, but the points I mentioned previously about how Catalyst differs from TF makes me think one segment True’s eyeing with Catalyst is Mako diehards who don’t have a great option on the current market, as well as just direct competition with the light-and-agile segment.

Catalyst is worth a look. It’s out in a month. True boot that’s supposed to rival Hyperlight and JS4 in weight with softer facing, flex tendon guard, and reduced volume toecap. What size Makos do you wear and how light are they, out of curiosity?

I started looking at that too. That could be. But then again, pro options are so vast, so it might have some really particular specs you won't find at retail.

Do you shoot right or left? W01 is a little easier to find on prostockhockey.com in left. A lot of the recent results are "team" sticks though, which makes me think they may be in the 450-475g range. Not sure what your budget, weight preference are. I'm with @Buzz_LightBeer though, can you elaborate on how the puck is jumping over your blade on toe drags?

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Wow. I wouldn't want to apply just from looking at how that job posting is formatted. Looking at warrior.com, it's not up on their careers page. I was hoping they would have acquired Alkali. Tron sunk that ship. Meanwhile Justin Hoffman was doing impressive things with their skates, and there were still a few Mission loyalists looking for a new pair of boots along those lines. It'll be interesting to see what their angle might be if/when this comes to fruition. The direction their protective, especially gloves, has been going the last few years, my expectations are on the low end.

Sad but True.

MacKinnon's special skates have both 80K and 100K graphics elements to them. They don't actually correspond to a particular CCM model from what I can tell.

The blade paint isn’t quite the same. It’s clear there’s no texture on the shaft either. Bauer’s sloppy flex numbers look out of place on such an iconic and pristine design, as do the blade pattern IDs. It’s not really a Synergy, I know, but this is just a bastardization of such a great stick. It tarnishes the Synergy legacy.

Love the Modano. I have it on an HTX that I hope never breaks. I wish they would reintroduce the bumpy texture and clear coat finish. I would get a 100 Modano then. It would be interesting to see what that price would be with inflation. Synergy was 460g. It was beyond great in its day, but that’s not a competitive stick on today’s market. You have been able to get a stick around that weight and $150 for the last few years anyway. Edit: According to this inflation calculator, $150 in 2000 is roughly $255 in 2022.

Did you look at the gif I made? The sticks lined up (the angles weren't as misaligned as it looked from the static image), there was no glare obscuring the geometry, it's a better Drury to compare with (as I previously mentioned), and the pictures weren't all over the place. You haven't addressed any of the flaws in what you're showing. Adding P29 to the mix does nothing to clarify at all. Look back at the gif I made and tell me what you see.

Let's try with another gif: Does that help? I do use the heel curve capabilities of an X28 when I use one. What I appreciate about a heel curve or a heel and toe curve is the ability to saucer the puck without involving my wrists. The open face is made to elevate the puck as it travels from heel to toe. As always with the X28, the release point for this is earlier than it normally would be, otherwise the puck gets released in the rockered toe section of the blade. The problem then is, instead of the puck tilting upwards for liftoff, it partially loses contact with the blade, so the puck only lifts up on one side and falls on the other: flutter launch. If you release before the toe rocker kicks in, the heel works as any lofted heel curve does.

I get your point, but the gif is misleading, not because of anything you did, but because of the photos themselves: the offset between the blades and the subpar lighting washes out the nuances of these complex (even the Drury) geometries. There's even the issue of which Drury: P6 has more kink to it, which is clear when you compare P6 and W05: The blade face difference between those two Drurys shows the challenge of using HRS's images for this comparison: they're not normalized. They're not meant to be used as detailed comparison references, so to try and do it requires some work to fix the comparability issues. To be absolutely concrete on the original point: if W05 is a heel curve, then the W28 has a significant heel curve. Just looking at the first half of the W28 it more than keeps up with the curve of the W05, the prototypical heel curve. Therefore, the W28 undoubtedly has a significant heel curve. W28 is not just a heel curve, and it's also not just a toe curve. It really plays like two blades in one, which is one of the reasons why I think a lot of people that try it give up on it. Some dedicated Drury users can adapt to it once they see the similarities.

It's not an argument if we can keep it civil. I'm all for, "Really?" "What do you mean?" Etc. Good old days discussion, which the internet seems to be slowly annihilating... For the sake of discussion I made this composite image to better show my description. Believe me, I know the looks of things can be deceiving when handling a highly complex 3D object with compound curves on all sides. Reducing it to 2D can help with isolating single facets of these diamond-like geometries: If we can agree that the Drury is a heel curve, then so is the Kreps (X28). It's just as curved at the heel. When you compare this with the other facets of the Drury, it's easier to see the overall similarity. When I did this the first time in person, it was an E28 to E6 (original Drury) side-by-side, and I swear I recall the faces lining up even more than this W28 to W03 does. Seeing all of the similarities stack up, I had to believe the E28 is a modified Drury. It's too eerily similar in all ways to be anything else in my mind.

That could be. I had that issue with my Sakic Synergy, so I never tried the other variants. Though, it may be I wasn’t losing it under just the toe but the middle of the blade as well. It’s a long time ago, but that’s when I first appreciated the effect lie can have.

Sakic was a 6 lie. Or at least a lot higher than the Modano, which was Easton’s 5, and a bit higher than the Drury, which was 5.5.

Easton never had a P88 at retail. P36 was something similar but still different. True still has the Lidstrom but it’s probably not frequently stocked. They call it the HCS. HCR is their Drury. P28 is a modified Drury, but the toe alterations throw a lot of people off, especially the aggressive rocker, but the toe pocket can also get in the way. It’s meant to function as both a heel and a toe curve, but managing both types on one blade can be tricky. It’s probably not going to be a good time for someone who’s a dedicated Drury user and averse to change.

Are you counting Vasilevskiy in the learned-pre-butterfly group?

I suspect there's a significant genetic component as well, in regards to both gameflow facilitated by dynamic spatial cognition and the physical coordination required to learn and perform a movements.

Traditional eyelets, MLX tongues and tendon guards, Mako tendon guards, CCM tongues, and Micron liners are counterexamples. Injected plastic facing is literally one part. How it gets replaced seems complicated, to be sure, but it's not out of the question in my mind. We don't give shoe manufacturers that because shoes do have replacement parts.

Cars might last 15+ years, but don’t many manufacturers update their lines more frequently than that? Today’s skates can last longer than two years, even if a new skate in the same line comes out in that span. Planned obsolescence isn’t that tightly coupled to product release cycles (yet? I imagine Bauer having a leasing/subscription plan hidden in some garment or other). That is an interesting thought. I wonder if it would be possible to 3D print a decent replacement.