oldtrainerguy28

Holder is misaligned. Only reason that would happen.

Take the insole out and where is your toe?

Actually Step will do the samenif requested. (Shorter steel) Step is extremely consistant in quality and production.

They would sure lose a lot of credibility if they did so.

Because they haven't had a good steel product since the orginal Tuuk holder. And the majority of the pros use Step anyway. Why not get something out of it.

Who is the reseller there??? Curious

Totally defeats the purpose..

In the studies mentioned above not that it was noted in the study, there was a discussion that any profile change greater than 2...IE 7-13 or in Quad anything over 8-10-12-14 a .5 would be hard to feel as the gap would leave a flat spot. All profiles closer than 2 or less thee would be less likely a feeling of separation from one profile to the rest. It was also concluded that the 2 best being the 9.10 and the 9.5 10.5 would be similar to what is now the Quad .5. Hence, it would make perfect sense as to why a lot of people like it as it feels similar and actually is closest to the best performing in the study. Kind of a jacked combo between the 2 from the study. I wonder who it was that came up with that .5 idea? Maybe Mr. ProSharp could tell us??

Excellent points!!!

https://brocku.ca/search/?s=sharpening#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=sharpening&gsc.page=1 Try searching in the research section......... https://brocku.ca/applied-health-sciences/kinesiology/faculty-research/faculty-directory/kelly-l-lockwood-phd/#1495988343308-80fccfb2-7cbd2bb4-a010bd9b-76300f7d-2be520a1-a41b

That's a pretty wide sweeping brush...and I love JR but....there are some great pro shop and sharpening guys on here....LOL (sarcastic smile) It's a joke....🤣

Just because someone says it feels good does not mean in actual fact they are skating better or more efficient. Hence, what we found in the pitch Study done. Ironically, similar happened in the profile study that showed the best performance was achieved at duals and they were 9-10 and 9.5 10.5 all other profiles were slower and less agile. They were 7-13 and 11 foot all with I believe a slight forward pitch if I recall correctly.

https://brocku.ca/brock-news/2011/12/researcher-works-with-nhl-veterans-to-improve-the-hockey-skate/ Not sure on the website where it is. Mike Mcgurk did the pitch study and the profile one I am not sure whos thesis it was. I did the sharpening for the Pitch Thesis

Going t have to disagree with you on this one. Seeing as I takes the least amount of steel off and is closest to the profile study done on most effective profile I would highly recommend the .5 ws a starter. 0 and 1 when done properly take away sooooo much steel and pitch it beyond what it should be based on another study done on blade pitch

Hummm interesting.... I'm not the only one??

If they're that old they were done 18 months ago. No they are done holder wise. Even if the boot was in good shape.

Well it was a thesis paper and its needs to be quantified so I'm pretty sure that's the case. The research was marked above.

Actually been working with players using them for a whole now. So far very much positive. But I agree with a market full of "I'm the best blade" and now the parent issue. Unless your in LS2 or XS long term its an unknown. As for the level .. I was kinda asking what other tool could be used?.

I had already done that!! What to do if you dont have a @Flare Skate Blade edge checker,??

That will definitely cause an issue. Its actually pretty simple no matter what machine you use. Eliminate the easiest problems first. So in the end itvwas only the Flare steel that was off??

Does this happen in the skste? And always in the same right or left skste?? If it happens in the same skate every time holder is bent. If your doing blade only out of skate. The machine is the issue.

Wow sure didnt troll far enough. Bauer boots are not bad at all except for mounting and blade alignment NHL private study completed showed in shot blocking they were mid pack barely. Sparx is no where near the quality of a ProSharp or the newest in scientific and automation as an @Elite Blade Performance sharpening and profiling system. nice try though. Try asking why instead of saying blanket bullshit. And I did ho back on topic but some people think they have to have the last word. you did troll me and picked out tiny snippets of thing you wanted to argue about Plaun and simple. My only chip is ignorant younger people like yourself that think some of us older people are ignorant to change. When in fact we embrace and love new things to make the job easier and better. But I'm not afraid to call a spade a spade. your right it's done.

Not much, pretty much says it all. Personally. @JR Boucicaut not sure who this person is but I did go back and I have rarely been on as of late yet most of your posts troll me. So not sure what your agenda is but beat of luck with it. Funny how when you get called out you trust computers?? what does that have to anything about Flare or Edge holders being weak. My expiernece plus any machine besides a Sparx hell I could probably make that better as well.but never would. Off to do something useful besides waiste more time with your BS.

And back on Topic ..I believe @Flare Skate Blade is on to something and they are willing toisten to suggestions unlike some above. And even critical feedback. Including admitting there first product 4 or more years ago was not great steel. The steel is good ow the finish amazing and soon as I decide what I'm doing holder wise I am going to look into them much more thoroughly. I believe they have a solid product. I just refuse to spend any more money on blades for a holder I dont have faith in to last more than 3 months with level of players I deal with that are not on pro teams yet and are not getting the blades for free. Keep up the good work Flare

Ok then. what top 10 school because over the last 2o years I have worked with players both male and female who are top players in the NCAA. Tell me the school and I give you a person on that team that knows me and knows I'm not full of shit All my players inhave had major issues with are all players at CIS NCAA and OHL AHL and NHL. plus local AAA players heading to those places players that are on the skates 6 to 7 days a week and are hard on them. If you want list I could give you exact teams but due to privacy of the top players the players names wont be released. My education may not be as high as yours in school so my vocabulary won't be to your standards. But when was the last time you were flown to play hockey in Amsterdam, Australia, Canada, USA and now China. All these places I have been brought to Train sharpening not just do it. Did your hockey career end in NCAA? I'm still learning. what I have learned is the Bauer Edge Holder is not anything what it could be. 30 plus years in the business plus a World Championship 2 National Championship and numerous Provincial Championships. 2 years ago top team in North America. So yes Trust me I am an expert!!! Also one of the longest members on this site as I helped sort out fitting online 2 years before this site was made with @JR Boucicaut help to someone I recall was Mako? maybe. Anyway spin this the way you want. Bauer stole the idea and didnt make it better. Period. Thank you to @darkhors for the comments even though I don't know you.