Sniper9

Sock thickness can have a very noticeable factor in fitment. I can't use thinnies or my feet slide around in my skates like crazy. Could also be attributed to how slick the thinnies are as well. They feel almost too smooth.

I was going to mention the socks as well but couldn't really see how thick they are. If he is using typical athletic socks those can be pretty thick . I'd get a pair of socks meant specifically for hockey

I upgraded from sb black to as blacksteel. Night and day difference. The SB black was probably worse than steps stainless. I don't like the orthomoves at all and I have used superfeet yellow and carbons without complaints. Orthomoves imp feel a lot diff. Only up side is the adjustable arch support but the overall feel of the orthomoves I couldn't get used to esp compared to speed plates which I love.

Lol glad that simple fix helped alot. The Trues all come with the tongues shoved into the toe box. I personally like it as I like almost no space in there but it's all preference. So the res insolea actually made your volume issues feel better? How? If you also try over under lacing it does a lot less pressing down onto the tongue itself. I can't do over under bc it doesn't offer as snug of a feel for me. It does a great job locking the laces, but the under over gives me the tension I want against the tongue... So I'm pretty much the opposite problem as you!

Did you adjust the tongue so it's not so low? Personally if it causes pain not even skating I would just rebake them first. Pain when just lacing them up isn't a good sign. If you even noticed that they were laces too tight during the bake then that's a sign. I know you're probably hesitant but if just rebake them at home in ur oven.

It doesn't look horrible. With a rebake and less tightening of the laces the facing will likely flare out more and give u a bit more depth. Pencil test is really just a guideline anyways but if it's painful even after rebaking and no red insole, then obviously you should get a remake. My buddy has club feet and always have lace bite from volume issues. His trues were way off in terms of depth but also length on one skate. His remake worked out fine. The one thing I don't understand about true is that I think they rely too much on the thermoformability of their skate where they won't really adjust the facing height where it will always provide the same wrap no matter what your foot shape and depth is. Imo if it were 100% custom everyone should get a calculated facing height in relation to their foot depth but it seems like for the most part the facings are a standard size and they just work for the majority of ppl who fall within a certain range. I've seen many ppl fail the pencil test but they can get away with it because it doesn't cause pain.

As others already mentioned. No red insole and tighten to only slack is gone. I'd even consider rebake with no red insole and tighten them at only 70% or so, especially the problem areas for you in terms of volume. You also have the option of getting the low profile tongues (unless you have those already) Do you fail the pencil test considerably or are they just tight width wise? The facings on the Trues have a lot of flexibility when heated up both in terms of accommodating wider feet and narrow. Can post pictures or where the problem areas are while on your feet? For me I have very skinny calves and ankles so I need as much wrap as possible or the shrink wrap method was mandatory. For u, you may be the group that don't even need to lace the top two eyelets while heat moulding the traditional way. I have a feeling your issue can be easily resolved with a proper rebake.

They skipped 2?

There's been promos by places like sportchek and prohockey for the rekker 365 for 129. Also warrior qredge sl for 150ish... Qx for similar price etc. Not sure if they are all still on sale. Sport cheks flash sales generally have the odd really good stick on sale. Mind you, you won't get current too end sticks for more than say 10-20% off.

Speedplates?

I just got ft1 shoulders. Got a pretty big discount on them. Would not pay retail for them as they are pretty much foam and a couple of rocket frame prices on the sternum and spine. Impressed at the weight and mobility though.

It's been circulating around Instagram. The new as2s.. ovechkin was one.. but I bet they are all just reskins.

My experience has been no more than 4 weeks. And lately everyone I've spoken to have said 3 weeks.

Why don't u just use their oven but do the wrapping yourself like I suggested earlier.

So just realized my trues only have 9 eyelets, obviously because they are made to the size of my feet / strategically placed. My as1s and previous Bauer's both had 10. Because I skip an eyelet on the Trues does that equate to almost two eyelets dropped on the as1s, esp because the as1s were even taller than it's predecessor? I already noticed even tying my trues all the way to the top I had quite a bit more flexion vs the as1s.

I don't understand why not all dealers are doing the recommended shrink wrap method though...

Can't go wrong since it's just plastic wrap 😁. Prob no worse than my dollar store one I got and that worked perfectly fine. When I got scanned my knees were directly over my toes but not past.... My next pair I might just have it slightly bent just behind the toes and see if that makes a diff... I have a feeling it won't really make a diff since the scan isn't the only thing they build off of. They also look at all the pictures of your feet and your foot on the brannock (mind you this is more for skate length)

It's not actual saran wrap it's shrink wrap for packaging. You can get it at any hardware store. Or you can get the food grade plastic wrap and cut the whole roll to the width you want.... I'm in Canada and my local dollar store had them for three bucks vs 10 at the hardware store. Or look on Amazon. As for the fit. Ppl who have thicker ankles I find seem to have less issues with fit when heat moulding the traditional way without shrink wrapping because they naturally require less wrap. My ankles are very skinny so I need the extra help in removing the negative space. Do the shrink wrap method and if you're still not happy, initiate a remake request. Imo you shouldn't need to do more than shrink wrapping if the skates are made inside out with ur foot last. No way during the build process the fit would have gone wonky to the point where you would need clamps etc. So if they don't fit the way you think it should from shrink wrapping, you're probably never going to be happy. But you have to decide whether they don't feel right bc you need to adjust to the feel or bc they straight up dont fit. I'd go for a few spins on the ice for sure before coming to a decision. I do wonder if the position you're feet are in during the scan can influence how the skates feel though.... If you're Inna deeper lunge vs more upright... It definitely Changes the angle of the ankle and shape of the heel... I can see if you're in a deeper lunge it can cause fitment issues bc your scanned ankle /knee flexion depth may be diff than during stride. That's my 2 cents at least.

Because you're so used to it and trained so much this way is heel lock even an issue or something you even think about during games with only four eyelets done? For the avg person I'm guessing there's no way it would provide any kind of heel lock, but for you, because of your technique, is it even apparent?

They are way stiffer in ur hands but skating wise they don't feel remotely as stiff as you think they will be. I can squeeze the as1s in my hands easier than my trues but the as1s felt stiffer while skating. Trues eyelets and height of the boot allows for proper forward flexion. I had to really loosen the top eyelet on my as1s to get a similar knee bend. Mind you I've never tried the mako so...

I get the benefit of skating with no laces and I already feel the benefits of my edges from recently dropping my top eyelet, but the thing i would be concerned about is my skates falling off lol. And I'm assuming this is more of a training technique? Couldn't imagine playing a game like that and not risking skates flying off the feet.

The thing about the Trues is that the facings are very stiff, so if they weren't heat moulded to wrap your feet completely with no negative space, you aren't going to be able to adjust the tightness that much with the laces alone since they won't really flex... That's why the saran wrap method is best. It saves the eyelets from stress and gives your a complete wrap around the whole boot from heel up. It moulds the skate so that you won't need to tighten the skates that much. You can still tighten with the laces but only incrementally, and nothing drastic. Like I said in my pm to u. Just get a separate thermometer and just be sure the overall heat in the oven doesn't pass 200.. I would even go on the safe side and keep it at around 180-190. 5-6 mins on each side and the skates will be super malleable. U can always test to see if they are ready by pressing the ankle areas. Those should be nice and soft. Do one skate at a time so you aren't rushing. And let the skates cool on ur foot for at least 15 mins. Watch some YouTube while it cools down. Lastly I'd tinker with removing the res insoles to see if that gives u a better feel. The extra mm or 2 lift it provides may be misaligning ur heel with the heel cup enough for you to notice issues. I found I preferred the feel with no red insole. Gave me better feel of the ice and boot.

Bauer and CCM total.customs are about 200 more than trues so the price isn't the same. Bauer and CCM skates are high pressure moulded to your custom skate last. True builds their skates around your last from the inside out. It's s totally diff process. Bauer and CCM don't incorporate a built in custom arch. True does. That's why CCM still includes the brutal orthomoves, and Bauer had the speedplates. True skates are a totally different feel and fit than Bauer and CCM so it's not for everyone. Even the scanning is done differently. Bauer you're standing. CCM you're sitting. True you're in a lunge position. Because the skates are built off those scans in diff positions, even if they are all custom to your foot, each skate will feel and fit differently. What you prefer is up to you... I've discussed it before in the true thread how the heel pocket is deeper because of how you're scanned and ppl feel that bc of this their heel doesn't feel as locked when standing or walking vs Bauer and CCM. U have to remember that Bauer and CCM skates are made from a scan of your foot that isn't in a dynamic position. So the heel pocket isn't as deep and feels snugger standing and walking. But on the ice we aren't upright. We're bent forward and knees ankles flexed. Again it's personal preference what you want in your skates and how you want them to feel. Crappy thing is you won't know until you try the Trues and usually it's getting a pair and spending the money, or trying to find a used pair that is ur size and hoping it's close to your specs so you have an idea what you're getting. If you're happy with Bauer or CCM retails for the most part minus a few minor things, it's probably safe to go with their custom version as there won't be any surprises. Going from Bauer or CCM to trues is a big change. When I first switched over it took me a good 12 skates to be comfortable and not thinking about how it felt different. There's def an adjustment period. Although the finish on the Trues can be hit or miss ,imo, the overall feel and construction of the true boots feel more sturdy and more durable. CCM and Bauer feel like a thin carbon layer over a thermoformable plastic whereas true feels rock hard and you know it's all carbon on the lower half. Also I've seen a few custom ccms that have uneven stitching etc. I think that's just what happens with custom skates that are ... Made in Canada? Lol. Seems like ppl criticize made in China or Asia stuff but they seem to know what they are doing with sewing machines vs North American factories. It's a dying skill in North America vs Asia. I'm sure all three brands are great skates but I'll say it again, it's all personal preference.

Looking at the holders from this angle it looks completely fine. The other set of pictures made them look really short like half in front and back. My bad! Hope I didn't make you sweat over nothing lol. You actually have no stick out on the rear... What is sticking out is the heel pocket which you don't measure from. You actually should be looking at the edge of the bottom where it's flat and uours looks like there pretty much zero gap. As for rebaking you can do it yourself it's easy. Just make sure you have a thermometer in ur oven and don't trust your ovens preset temp. Ive baked my trues a number of times myself. Just do one skate at a time so you aren't rushing. And be sure to use a shoe horn when putting them on. 180 Fahrenheit for 10-12 mins. I did about 6 mins a side and flipped them. If your oven has a convection option, even better. If you have any questions feel free to pm me.

I had issues with the as1 retail in the toe box area where it met the boot. Huge plastic bump digging into my pinky toe. Had to line it with thin foam. As for customizing the fit type if u scan a tacks but want an ft2... If there are volume issues wouldn't you have to get the ft2 but increase the facing? My belief was that they just make the boot the same way as retail except a few things like 1/4 sizing, eyelet options, stiffness, etc. And just high pressure mould the boot to your foot last for the "custom" fit portion.... So if u didn't get advanced facings on the ft2 wouldn't u still have volume issues?