JR Boucicaut 3795 Report post Posted January 9, 2009 http://www.modsquadhockey.com/forums/index...s&showcat=3Skates - Ha. Sticks - Lineup remains unchanged, Supreme line added from holiday booking.Gloves - Supreme line is new for 2009 - starting with the flagship ONE95. Follows up on the ONE90 concept, however, the glove is a bit roomier than what the ONE90 was. New stretch palm, a impact-displacement system and a moisture-wicking, cooling liner are the main features of the glove. Vapor is unchanged. 4-Roll gets the Bauer logo treatment.Helmets - Helmets are unchanged other than the new 5100 - which is the 9500 single shell with dual-density VN padding.Protective - Supreme protective is redone for 2009 - the impact-displacement system and new liner that are in the ONE95 glove are in the ONE95 pads as well - however, in high-impact areas (shoulder caps, shins and forearms), the pads feature a fused polyethlene/high-density foam that cuts down on weight however absorbing impact. The ONE95 pants have the impact-displacement system in the spinal area. Vapor series is unchanged. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyukrulez13 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2009 to bad i already have an 8500, i want the 5100 now. the new bauer logo lookeds..... awkward Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Race4LastPlace 31 Report post Posted January 13, 2009 so the 4 roll gloves are unchanged except for the logo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JGraz15 53 Report post Posted January 13, 2009 Now the good stuff, thanks JR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theWB 2 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 so the 4 roll gloves are unchanged except for the logo?Correct Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Race4LastPlace 31 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 so the 4 roll gloves are unchanged except for the logo?Correctsweet. love me some 4 rolls. lovin that 5100 helmet too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theWB 2 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 Definitely. I have a pair now, but am tempted to get another when they come out. I think they look much nicer with just BAUER on the cuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burning Bear 76 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) Actually, isn't the liner different? Doesn't look like something that will dramatically change the glove, but I'm just talking out of my ass until I slip a pair on.I've been gushing about the new Bauer logo for some time now, but after seeing it on the new gloves, I think it needs to go back inside a parallelogram ala the older Bauer logos. Looks good on the new helmets and pants, though.I'm also a little disappointed that they didn't update the classic shoulder pads in any way, but I don't think the people using them had any complaints about them, anyway. On the other hand, I like that they brought back the One35 ABS wood stick. Bought one last year and loved it for ball hockey. For now though, I'll be adding a Supreme pant shell and a couple of t-shirts to my wish list for this spring.Edit: Just now realized that the One35 is a Europe only model. Feel a bit stupid. Edited January 16, 2009 by Burning Bear Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caldakid 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 yeah i agree i dont know if i like the old bauer logo stretched out like that over the cuff, definatly looks better inside a box Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blueliner27 12 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 Love the Supreme Protective lines. Def. gonna pick pairs of One95 shin and elbow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3795 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 New liner on the 4-Roll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMcDonald19 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 i hope they fixed up the one95 ops a bit, they were exploding in the center. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve66 45 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 one of the things i was looking forward to seeing was the performance under apparel to see how they were going to move forward with the absence of Nike and to see how much, if any of the technologies would carry over. FRom what i see on paper it still looks to be a strong line up, any comments from those of you who have seen any in person? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Law Goalie 147 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 No Flexlites... grrr... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stick9 890 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 Did they swap the fit between the Vapor and Supreme gloves? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shooter27 116 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 Am I the only one that thinks this secrecy with the skates line is a little bit overboard? I mean is the new skate they're bringing to market really going to be that revolutionary that this CIA treatment is really worth it at the end of the day? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdcopp 1 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 the irony is that the catalog pics of the Vapors aren't really telling either, not sure why they wouldn't want those posted since they look like x-raysLaw Goalie, there are Flexlite skates this year, 4 models I believe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkStar50 679 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 The Performance Apparel is very well done. Over the course of the Nike run, some people gave too much leverage to the Nike brand as having some huge, huge influence over Bauer. Nike let the people in place, Bauer people, do their jobs over the last 10-12 years. Hockey product was not coming from Oregon. It was coming out of St. Jerome and the designers in that location. That said, the apparel team has furthered the development of their 2009 product line to get even more hockey specific for dynamics and range of motion in apparel. It is a strong line-up that will sell in the marketplace. The competition in the category is not hockey specific so why support UA or RBK when those lines are pretty generically designed in the category. Just some things to think about.As for the Vapor Skate line secrecy, the decision to hold back the visual launch is not just about marketing. There are many valid ideas put into the line that are worth waiting for. No vendor has any obligation to an early release of their product just because we live in an age of instant information. A long time ago when the American auto industry ruled as king, the release of the new car lines was also kept quiet until they hit the showroom. Bauer has taken a cross-over marketing approach to the Vapor line. No harm done. It is wise to remember that for Bauer skate lines, it is not simply about the look of the skate. It is what makes up the guts of the skate that drives performance on ice. Bauer has raised the bar on Vapor for 2009. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazy-luke-finch 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 the irony is that the catalog pics of the Vapors aren't really telling either, not sure why they wouldn't want those posted since they look like x-raysLaw Goalie, there are Flexlite skates this year, 4 models I believethe new Vapor line of skates is in negative colors in the catalogue, hope thats not the colors there actually going with. The supreme line is unchangedThe new flexlites look like this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shooter27 116 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 As for the Vapor Skate line secrecy, the decision to hold back the visual launch is not just about marketing. There are many valid ideas put into the line that are worth waiting for. No vendor has any obligation to an early release of their product just because we live in an age of instant information. A long time ago when the American auto industry ruled as king, the release of the new car lines was also kept quiet until they hit the showroom. Bauer has taken a cross-over marketing approach to the Vapor line. No harm done. It is wise to remember that for Bauer skate lines, it is not simply about the look of the skate. It is what makes up the guts of the skate that drives performance on ice. Bauer has raised the bar on Vapor for 2009.By no means am I saying that Bauer has some type of obligation to release any of its line before it hits stores. My point was if you're releasing the rest of your line you may as well put pictures of the skates out there. Even if the skates are truly revolutionary in terms of performance, is there really all that much competitive information that could be gleaned from a catalog picture and description that it would really be detrimental to them? At the end of the day, its neither here nor there, it just seems overkill to me, but I totally respect their right to do whatever they want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chappie 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 I'm confused, I thought, with the re-introduction of the flexlites, that the Vapors would've been phased out. I haven't gone through the catalog yet as I haven't had time, but is this still the case with the skates, or is Bauer now going to carry 3 lines? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkStar50 679 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 As for the Vapor Skate line secrecy, the decision to hold back the visual launch is not just about marketing. There are many valid ideas put into the line that are worth waiting for. No vendor has any obligation to an early release of their product just because we live in an age of instant information. A long time ago when the American auto industry ruled as king, the release of the new car lines was also kept quiet until they hit the showroom. Bauer has taken a cross-over marketing approach to the Vapor line. No harm done. It is wise to remember that for Bauer skate lines, it is not simply about the look of the skate. It is what makes up the guts of the skate that drives performance on ice. Bauer has raised the bar on Vapor for 2009.By no means am I saying that Bauer has some type of obligation to release any of its line before it hits stores. My point was if you're releasing the rest of your line you may as well put pictures of the skates out there. Even if the skates are truly revolutionary in terms of performance, is there really all that much competitive information that could be gleaned from a catalog picture and description that it would really be detrimental to them? At the end of the day, its neither here nor there, it just seems overkill to me, but I totally respect their right to do whatever they want.I understand your point. I won't say there is anything "truly revolutionary", but there are some features that say "what took so long and why didn't someone else think of that?" (Maybe because no one else but Bauer bothers to even begin to think like that.)I always admire companies that manage to incorporate this type of thinking in their product. The original Mission/Bilt-Rite guys did that with their opening product line in roller hockey in the mid 90s. Remember they were also three former Bauer guys who pushed the envelope with hockey product design thinking in roller hockey equipment. I think that Bauer wants to create some hype, which they have, and they have also invested a ton of time, research, development, testing, and money into the product. So any sizzle they can add to the steak is just basic Marketing 101 with holding back the Vapor skate product. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tro 4 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 I'm confused, I thought, with the re-introduction of the flexlites, that the Vapors would've been phased out. I haven't gone through the catalog yet as I haven't had time, but is this still the case with the skates, or is Bauer now going to carry 3 lines?The Vapor line is a huge seller for Bauer, that wasn't going anywhere. Flexlites would be the least profitable of the three lines, the classic all black should create more interest than the previous silver. I am happy Bauer will continue the Flexlite line, but I was hoping they would bring in the tech of the 12/20 and not just the 18. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chappie 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 Ah I see, so they are just re-introducing the flexlites. Some guy at a sort of LHS (not really local, but not a total hike either) told me that the vapors would be gone and a new skate was coming in it's place, I just assumed he meant the flexlites, which I knew were supposedly coming, just didn't know what they'd look like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dean_ 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2009 The new one95 protective stuff looks great, but i was pretty disapointed with the skates hahaha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
