Blade Pattern Origins

[Jason 65]

I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but I was wondering if you guys had any insight into the origins of the current blade patterns available today... As in, who was the first to used them or what pro curve were they based on originally? It is a well known fact that Sakic didn't use a Sakic pattern. Ditto for for pretty much every retail pattern to date. So when did all of the retail patterns we see today originate and what are they based on?

A couple related questions... I've just recently started using the Warrior Gionta pattern and I've fallen in love with it. I'd really like to see other manufacturers make a clone because I don't necessarily want to be locked into Warrior sticks. Does anyone know who's curve the Gionta is based on? And what do you think the odds are of it being cloned down the road?

[mhkehoe 1]

I've always understood that it just for marketing purposes, with the curves being named after the popular players under contract with that company at the time.

[Hradsky 1]

Good question, I never thought about that.

[Scotty 8]

The Easton Drury (or whatever it is now) was originally Steve Yzerman's pro curve.

That's about the only one I know.

[steelnation248 101]

The Easton Drury (or whatever it is now) was originally Steve Yzerman's pro curve.

That's about the only one I know.

I was just going to post this. That's the story I've heard as well.

[xrickyb86x 1]

I don't know the answer to your question but i do feel the same way about the Gionta curve. Took me a few skates to adjust to shooting with the toe curve but now I don't want to use anything else.

[17D1998 1]

CCM Crazy Ovie = Ovechkin's actual pattern

That's all I can think of ahah

[Jason 65]

I've always understood that it just for marketing purposes, with the curves being named after the popular players under contract with that company at the time.

I think most of us realized that a long time ago. I was referring to which pros, if any, used the patterns before they became retail patterns?

[Chadd 916]

I think most of us realized that a long time ago. I was referring to which pros, if any, used the patterns before they became retail patterns?

The original Sakic retail was a much different pattern. It was a long, mild mid curve with just a hint of loft. Think of a Darby/P27/P89/Vanek with less loft. Not sure how close that was to his pro pattern. I had some old wood retail Kariya blades that were very similar to the KP, not sure if that was intentional or accidental.

[Scotty 8]

The original Sakic retail was a much different pattern. It was a long, mild mid curve with just a hint of loft. Think of a Darby/P27/P89/Vanek with less loft. Not sure how close that was to his pro pattern. I had some old wood retail Kariya blades that were very similar to the KP, not sure if that was intentional or accidental.

Yep I used the original Sakic for a long time before they ended it. Very mild mid curve. I don't remember the specs, but it seemed to be even less of a curve than the current PM9 and its variations. I was pissed until I began using the Modano, which wasn't a huge change.

[mhkehoe 1]

I think most of us realized that a long time ago. I was referring to which pros, if any, used the patterns before they became retail patterns?

And I am saying that I doubt it has anything to do with any pro player, and were likely based around a couple of different styles people customized their blades to. I walk into a locker room is all the market research one of the companies would need. Whether the players setup their blade because of a particular player is the only way I can see them being linked.

But that is just me. I've always lived in a world where the sticks had player names assigned to them. I assume the curves came first and marketing took over from there (after all, easier to call it a Modano than a 3/8" mid heel curve rounded with lie 5)

[noodle3872 40]

The original Sakic retail was a much different pattern. It was a long, mild mid curve with just a hint of loft. Think of a Darby/P27/P89/Vanek with less loft. Not sure how close that was to his pro pattern. I had some old wood retail Kariya blades that were very similar to the KP, not sure if that was intentional or accidental.

Based on the description, it sounds very close to a pro stock Sakic T-Flex blade I have.

[skyscrape 5]

or a p89

[noodle3872 40]

A PS true Sakic pattern will have less curve than a P89. I currently use the P89. Maybe tomorrow, I'll dig out the Sakic blade and take comparison pictures.

[skyscrape 5]

Sounds good! I look forward to seeing this!

[HockeySavants 5]

I know the P88 was the Lindros Curve before it became the Kane curve, but I'm not sure what it was before that.

I have a Nike Quest V6 Wood stick with a Kovalchuk curve that they don't even make anymore, and it resembles the new Ovi P08 curve. Only took forever haha

[Chadd 916]

I know the P88 was the Lindros Curve before it became the Kane curve, but I'm not sure what it was before that.

That's another curve that went through some changes before ending up in its current form.

[chippa13 1844]

The first Lindros curve that I ever used was actually closer to a mid-curve PM9 in terms of curve depth and blade shape.

[skyscrape 5]

The first Lindros curve that I ever used was actually closer to a mid-curve PM9 in terms of curve depth and blade shape.

I still have one of those laying around the garage. Small mid curve opens up slightly.

[Scotty 8]

The first Lindros curve that I ever used was actually closer to a mid-curve PM9 in terms of curve depth and blade shape.

Yep, it used to be damn near a clone, even in terms of the profile. Over the course of a couple years it gradually became its own different curve.

[Jason 65]

What I was hoping for when I started this thread was an answer like... "The Sakic/Hall curve was originally X's pro pattern and the Gionta curve is Y's pro pattern. I guess nobody really knows where these curves came from.

[mack 44]

I don't know about Easton's but the Koho Revolution line from the early 90s seemed to have patterns close (if not the same) as the player's name on it. The Sundin and Stevens were pretty damn close to the pro stocks I remember from those days. I loved that line and wish someone brought it back from the dead.

Edit: Same with the Eastons that used to come with their early line of shafts, before they started branching off to crap like "Gretzky II" and all that.

[Buzz_LightBeer 969]

Original graphite T-flex blades with a "Drury" pattern used to be labeled as "Foote," who was RH and used a Lidstrom at the time

Tkachuk use(d) a retail Modano/Zetterberg

[tvaughan4 16]

The original Sakic retail was a much different pattern. It was a long, mild mid curve with just a hint of loft. Think of a Darby/P27/P89/Vanek with less loft. Not sure how close that was to his pro pattern. I had some old wood retail Kariya blades that were very similar to the KP, not sure if that was intentional or accidental.

Is the Darby closer to the P27 or P89? Any pictures?

[mr13lcky 4]

Just a point of interest: I saw an interview with Matt Duchene in which he was talkin about how RBK was going to start selling the "Duchene" blade pattern.

He said: "I have no idea what the Duchene curve even looks like, but I hope it's a good one."

So, apparently, the pros do not even have any input on what kind of curve will be attached to their name. I thought that was a little strange.